^^ also THE LAST SHIP
"Every time a show of his tours, he gets paid."
.. Only Parade has toured, and to my recollection canceled a ton of dates (including big markets such as Chicago and Boston!); Bridges hasn't begun to tour so can't comment on that. His musicals tend to play smaller markets (ie regional) abroad, so I'm not sure if he's reigning in the dough -- he did pick a fight with a teenager over the internet over sheet music!
I do have some respect for JRB - Bridges (score) was great, Lauren Kennedy's solo album of his is wonderful, and a handful of tunes from his other musicals.
I just can't take his pretentious and pompous attitude, particularly when it comes to other composers. As a musician, sure he can take his credit for orchestrating/arranging his own music, but given his lousy track record, I'm not really sure how you could call him a "composer for the people" or our time (It's not like this is Jerry Herman and Mack & Mabel!). I'm curious how much money he has lost producers on Broadway.
Philly03, what has he said about other composers? Not surprising, while he's a great writer I kinda dislike his attitude a lot. (I mean he wrote L5Y after his first divorce and Cathy got nothing, c'mon)
Thank you for reminding me of The Last Ship! I actually really enjoyed the recording, much more than I thought I would. I think Sting deserves a nomination! Is it four scores total that are nominated?
A few seasons ago he made accusations against Glen Hansard and Markéta Irglová (Once composers) and Frank Wildhorn in particular that they could not notate or read music (with the tagline "to the best of my knowledge," regardless of truth), and furthered that orchestrators deserve more credit for Once, Wildhorn, Alan Menken, Michael John LaChiusa and Maury Yeston since none of these composers can make a "score" without them.
Then he nicely gave himself a backhand compliment about how he himself is an orchestrator and conductor to his own musicals.
I agree with why he was attempting to make the argument (the Drama Desks were going to get rid of the category) - the orchestrator plays a huge part in the score of a musical, but he just sounded so ridiculous calling out the other composers.
There have been many shows much better than this one that have not succeeded on Broadway over the years. It's unfortunate but it happens. I thought this show was a fun experience and probably should have lasted longer. The timing, marketing and the fact that it premiered at the Papermill instead of at LaJolla or Chicago probably hurt its chances, but we'll never know. Best wishes to another hard working cast for future shows.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
If it is as in the past, four scores. They will be: Last Ship, Fun Home, The Visit & Something Rotten. I don't think anyone else has a shot.
neon, I agree and what is interesting is that all 4 have a constituency such that handicapping a winner is tough.
I agree on those 4 scores - I don't think HONEYMOON will make it.
I think THE LAST SHIP is out of the winner's circle - the Broadway community loved Sting but the nomination will be the award.
I haven't heard SOMETHING'S ROTTEN (seeing it soon) but from what I've heard from comments: cute, funny, jokey... not a winner.
I think it's between FUN HOME and THE VISIT, two serious scores by appreciated composer/lyricists. I give the edge to FUN HOME if after it opens it gets ecstatic reviews and sells well. I don't think THE VISIT is going to sell well, even after opening.
Also eligible are the scores for Zhivago, Shoulda Been You, and Neverland. Personally, I don't care for Shoulda (which I saw), and the score is best described as "cute," I think. Of the other two, I've only heard demos and snippets; there are those who like the flop-poperetta sound of Zhivago. As for Neverland, I haven't heard enough to have an opinion yet (but I'm generally not overly fond of pop writers in the theatre - their scores don't provide the dramatic oomph I seek).
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
935?
I know those scores are eligible, they just won't be nominated.
Not having heard a note from ZHIVAGO, I guess I will keep the 4 I think will be nominated open for a change. But I think at this point it's those 4. But it's the Tonys so who knows! I always like to see a category open up for a 5th nomination. I just don't see why a decent show can lose a nomination because it's a good year (sort of!) for original musicals.
So we're all in agreement, the four to be nominated will be The Last Ship, Fun Home, The Visit and Something Rotten. From what I've heard of all four (having heard all of them except for only bits of Something Rotten), I believe Fun Home will win. I've only heard the demo and Signature theater score of The Visit, and a lot of it is good but I wouldn't put it with the best of Kander & Ebb.
Leading Actor Joined: 7/28/07
I have nothing to add to what has already been said but I wanted to do my part to bring the thread count to 1000!
And while I'm here... has anyone been watching "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" on Netflix. Titus Burgess has a great role. Very talented guy who manages to show off his vocal prowess throughout the 13 episodes so far! I know... off topic!
Roadmixer, I just put it on netflix! This will be my fourth time watching it...obviously you could say I'm addicted. I want a soundtrack to be released! I love Tituss Burgess.
Leading Actor Joined: 7/28/07
Alright folks, 58 posts to 1000 and 5 day are left. We're so close, let's not fail now. We owe it to TONY!!! It's his legacy.
C'mon now, who's going to the last show (that should be good for 15 "I am, can't wait" posts alone).
I think this show can still do well regionally
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
I decided to click on this thread...
I didn't realize how glorious it is.
Broadway Star Joined: 9/22/14
Or a residency in Las Vegas could work for this show too!
Yes, I'm sure the producers who lost their shirts on this and the producers who watched this show limp along bleeding money for months will just be so eager to remount in another risky market for shows.
I'm not going to the last show! I can't wait.
As for the show regionally, it will get done. It will bring a bit of money in for the authors. I really think the VEGAS in the title turns off some people. The film was not THAT popular (it's not in league with the fame of the title LEGALLY BLONDE), and obviously Tony Danza will not be in regional productions!!!
Swing Joined: 3/16/15
Doing my part to get it to 1000 posts.
Maybe, despite the huge disappointment, this will save Tony Danza from continuing to spend his own money, which he supposedly was injecting into this show for at least a month now, in addition to what he initially invested.
Of course, I feel sympathy for the entire cast, but it's Tony who has much more limited options, which I don't quite understand, because if Matt LeBlanc and Matthew Perry can keep landing lucrative TV series/shows (even if those new shows don't last for more than 1/2 or 1 full season), why can't Tony be back on TV? Tony is just as engaging, good looking, funny, likeable and talented.....maybe even more so in some categories. Yes, Taxi and Who's The Boss was not Friends, but millions of people watched those two shows.
Good Luck Tony!
I agree with the idea that Vegas probably just seemed tacky to people. Even that pic with Brynn O'malley in that wig...omg that wig on the poster
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