VanillaIceCream2 said: "I could swear there’s a separate seating thread but I looked extensively and couldn’t find it, so I’ll just ask here: has anyone sat in the last few rows of the mezz all the way house left? I’m trying to figure out if they’d be partial view.”
I sat last row mezz, 3 seats from the left outermost aisle. I would definitely say they’re partial view, as from my seat I couldnt see some of the orchestra members to the left (the cellist + violinist, to be specific) but I dont think you’d miss anything extremely important since it’s heavily center staged.
Update from rush line: I’m #16. I arrived at 12:30p. The people in front of me arrived ~11ish. The guy behind me was here a minute or two after me. The weather is holding - cool, but cloudy.
5pm update: Got a spot (barely)! 17 tickets available today - 6 seats, 11 SRO spots.
The line was more than 30 deep by 5pm, hitting the 24hr Park sign.
Hey guys I’ve been keeping up with this message board for the last few months and am finally rushing today so I figured I’d post to update anyone interested.
#1&2- 5:00am #3&4 (my bf and I)- 6:25am #5- 6:44am
Many people have come and left throughout the morning but at noon right now there are a total of 14 people in line. Numbers 5&6 left and tried to make an agreement with the group behind them that they will be coming back at 5:00 with a total of 4 people but not sure how well that’s going to play out...
Update:
The guy came back and tried to get his spot back but someone in line stood up and told him it wasn’t allowed. The box office stepped in to tell him that with getting out of line he forfeited his spot. As of 2:45 there are 21 people in line!
It’s 10:15 AM and I’m 12th in line. Will update at 5 PM when rush begins!
They sold out of rush real quick, I think they only had 4 or 5 of them. I was able to get a standing room ticket though!
I had standing room partial view, house right in spot #7. The view was perfect. The only thing you can’t see is the balcony up above where Hades usually enters from. But if you bend over and look through the banister you can see everything, lmao
Bonus: LAURA DERN WAS IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US. Not standing room with us or anything, lol. In a seat because she’s Laura Dern.
The Hadestown instagram just announced they are changing the rush policy again. Beginning July 30th, the regular rush seats will not be given out through the lottery for 42.50. SRO will continue to be sold at 5pm only if the show is sold out.
Im kinda sad cause I was gonna rush August 1st. Im gonna line up and hope for standing room anyway I guess. I got a standing room ticket a few months ago and I enjoyed myself, Im just nervous that I’d wait on line all day and the show won’t be sold out
Why are they changing it? I haven’t rushed it, but it based on this thread it seemed like the new system was working. Very few overnights, and seemingly only on Matinee days. And by keeping SRO they are still going to have to manage a line every day anyway.
JBroadway said: "Why are they changing it? I haven’t rushed it, but it based on this thread it seemed like the new system was working. Very few overnights, and seemingly only on Matinee days. And by keeping SRO they are still going to have to manage a line every day anyway."
^ I see that they are moving them to the digital lottery. I’m just wondering why they’re doing that. In fact, the decision to move them to digital is almost more confusing. If they just eliminated that allotment of rush seats, they could begin selling those seats for full price. But moving them to the digital lotto implies that it was a logistical decision. But the logistics will barely change on their end, since there will still be a line every day.
JBroadway said: "^ I see that they are moving them to the digital lottery. I’m just wondering why they’re doing that. In fact, the decision to move them to digital is almost more confusing. If they just eliminated that allotment of rush seats, they could begin selling those seats for full price. But moving them to the digital lotto implies that it was a logistical decision. But the logistics will barely change on their end, since there will still be a line every day."
JSquared2 said: "JBroadway said: "^ I see that they are moving them to the digital lottery. I’m just wondering why they’re doing that. In fact, the decision to move them to digital is almost more confusing. If they just eliminated that allotment of rush seats, they could begin selling those seats for full price. But moving them to the digital lotto implies that it was a logistical decision. But the logistics will barely change on their end, since there will still be a line every day."
Why would there be a line for a digital lottery?"
They’re talking about the SRO line. Previously to this SRO and Rush were just kinda one line.
So disappointing. The chances of winning the lottery are slim, and purchasing tickets at house prices or through resellers is out of budget for many, especially those who gave up so many hours to be on that rush line. Now it’s even less accessible, and the rationale why is unclear. Blah.
Daniel M said: "So disappointing. The chances of winning the lottery are slim, and purchasing tickets at house prices or through resellers is out of budget for many, especially those who gave up so many hours to be on that rush line. Now it’s even less accessible, and the rationale why is unclear. Blah."
I think the rationale is fairly clear. They adjusted the system to cut down on people camping out and spending hours and hours in line was working at first, but reports I had heard is that the line is getting back to starting earlier and earlier and people are going back to camping out. So it's a safety issue. They don't want people out on the streets of New York all night long. It was why they changed rush the first time and it's why they are changing it again.
Daniel M said: "So disappointing. The chances of winning the lottery are slim, and purchasing tickets at house prices or through resellers is out of budget for many, especially those who gave up so many hours to be on that rush line. Now it’s even less accessible, and the rationale why is unclear. Blah."
Actually, I think it is very clear. It's similar to Hamilton when it got popular. People were camping out at ridiculous hours, and I'm pretty sure it's very unsafe. The theater most likely didn't feel comfortable with that. People were camping out starting the night before. Even when a new policy was announced regarding when one could line up for rush, people were still showing up at ridiculous hours, and I think people were even disregarding the rule about lining up hours in advance. This is why it was switched. People were being (for lack of better word, I guess) greedy with wanting to see the show and completely ignored the consequences of their actions to others who wanted to rush in the future.
magictodo123 said: "Daniel M said: "So disappointing. The chances of winning the lottery are slim, and purchasing tickets at house prices or through resellers is out of budget for many, especially those who gave up so many hours to be on that rush line. Now it’s even less accessible, and the rationale why is unclear. Blah."
Actually, I think it is very clear. It's similar to Hamilton when it got popular. People were camping out at ridiculous hours, and I'm pretty sure it's very unsafe. The theater most likely didn't feel comfortable with that. People were camping out starting the night before. Even when a new policy was announced regarding when one could line up for rush, people were still showing up at ridiculous hours, and I think people were even disregarding the rule about lining up hours in advance. This is why it was switched. People were being (for lack of better word, I guess) greedy with wanting to see the show and completely ignored the consequences of their actions to others who wanted to rush in the future."
When I said the rationale was unclear I was referring to that neither the Instagram post or BWW article stated a rationale from the theater. I was hesitant to jump right to safety concerns because yes, while Hamilton had major lines, plenty of other shows have drawn overnight crowds and continued to have a rush policy. I haven't heard of incidents in which someone's safety was in jeopardy but perhaps the producers did.
Since they gain nothing from it financially, what other reason could there be?
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Daniel M said: "magictodo123 said: "Daniel M said: "So disappointing. The chances of winning the lottery are slim, and purchasing tickets at house prices or through resellers is out of budget for many, especially those who gave up so many hours to be on that rush line. Now it’s even less accessible, and the rationale why is unclear. Blah."
Actually, I think it is very clear. It's similar to Hamilton when it got popular. People were camping out at ridiculous hours, and I'm pretty sure it's very unsafe. The theater most likely didn't feel comfortable with that. People were camping out starting the night before. Even when a new policy was announced regarding when one could line up for rush, people were still showing up at ridiculous hours, and I think people were even disregarding the rule about lining up hours in advance. This is why it was switched. People were being (for lack of better word, I guess) greedy with wanting to see the show and completely ignored the consequences of their actions to others who wanted to rush in the future."
When I said the rationale was unclear I was referring to that neither the Instagram post or BWW article stated a rationale from the theater. I was hesitant to jump right to safety concerns because yes, while Hamilton had major lines, plenty of other shows have drawn overnight crowds and continued to have a rush policy. I haven't heard of incidents in which someone's safety was in jeopardy but perhaps the producers did."
I'm not trying to get in an argument, but I think any time people are sleeping on streets overnight in Manhattan it's a safety risk. I don't know of any specific examples of incidents that have happened, but it does leave open the possibility of them happening. Yes, I understand about other productions-I'm well aware of that. But I think this was very extreme. Also, people weren't listening to the new guidelines set forth by the production. I think that is most likely the biggest problem. Also, those other productions aren't as in demand, and people aren't lining up the night before, are they? This was completely out of control with people (as I said) disregarding rules set forth by the production. Actions and consequences.
dramamama611 said: "Since they gain nothing from it financially, what other reason could there be?"
Well, now there’s less transparency, so they could in theory not actually sell any tickets through the lottery and no one would know. Which could benefit them financially since the tickets that would have been used for lottery could be sold at a higher price.
Versus not offering rush tickets on any given day, in which case you’d have a long line of angry people.
Since Hadestown was already selling via the Lucky Seats lottery they could just be eliminating whatever allocation they were making for in person rush tickets. We have no way of knowing how many seats are sold via the Lucky Seat lottery, so isn't it entirely possible that that allocation is remaining the same and the box office has taken back (an albeit small) allocation to sell at full price? This of course would be in addition to the rationale of not wanting people camping out for hours on end for the in person rush tickets.
magictodo123 said: "I'm not trying to get in an argument, but I think any time people are sleeping on streets overnight in Manhattan it's a safety risk. I don't know of any specific examples of incidents that have happened, but it does leave open the possibility of them happening. Yes, I understand about other productions-I'm well aware of that. But I think this was very extreme. Also, people weren't listening to the new guidelines set forth by the production. I think that is most likely the biggest problem. Also, those other productions aren't as in demand, and people aren't lining up the night before, are they? This was completely out of control with people (as I said) disregarding rules set forth by the production. Actions and consequences."
I did not think this was an argument either, I am just trying to wrap my head around all of this and appreciate your perspective. I know that last summer Mean Girls had people showing up at 10:00pm the night before. Might not be in the same demand right now but they kept the rush going. Did Hadestown explicitly advise against showing up overnight? Or was the disregard about how the line formed at the theater (like blocking the parking garages)?
Updated On: 7/30/19 at 08:38 AM
Daniel M said: "magictodo123 said: "I'm not trying to get in an argument, but I think any time people are sleeping on streets overnight in Manhattan it's a safety risk. I don't know of any specific examples of incidents that have happened, but it does leave open the possibility of them happening. Yes, I understand about other productions-I'm well aware of that. But I think this was very extreme. Also, people weren't listening to the new guidelines set forth by the production. I think that is most likely the biggest problem. Also, those other productions aren't as in demand, and people aren't lining up the night before, are they? This was completely out of control with people (as I said) disregarding rules set forth by the production. Actions and consequences."
I did not think this was an argument either, I am just trying to wrap my head around all of this and appreciate your perspective. I know that last summer Mean Girls had people showing up at 10:00pm the night before. Might not be in the same demand right now but they kept the rush going. Did Hadestown explicitly advise against showing up overnight? Or was the disregard about how the line formed at the theater (like blocking the parking garages)?"
I'm guessing the latter. They (Hadestown) did have a sign that said the hours when people could start lining up for rush-I believe it was posted on the door of the theater. They also posted it on social media. People completely ignored it. I can have my stance on this and feel like you're kind of implying my perspective isn't valid, although you said you appreciated it. People on social media were adamant about people NOT lining up at ridiculous hours because they were worried the new rush policy would be changed, or taken away, and they were right!
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Regardless of the producers’ intent when they eliminated rush - which likely was about safety concerns - I think this new policy will backfire. Because they are still offering the 14ish standing room spots, people are still going to camp out at the theater, probably arriving even earlier because there are fewer tickets available.