Hamilton Cancellation Line- Page 77

[meepsnyc]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 8:58pm

If anyone is willing to wait in exchange of having their ticket purchased, I'm looking for a new way to get tickets ASAP and would be willing to buy your ticket. My job doesn't let me wait.  

 

Long story short, I had a SOLD booking for this upcoming Tuesday (originally booked on 4/20 when I was their first customer), but someone else got the #1 spot from me this weekend when SOLD informed us of their new strategy changes and they managed to pay first. To be fair, I took a few days because I was monitoring the board and seeing how everything would play out, but had I known I would have paid immediately. I'm crushed. They emailed me tonight to say they're now only taking one client per night because it's been harder to get tickets and they want to ensure success. So I appreciate that they are still looking out for the customer, but I had been counting down the days until this Tuesday. It's made all the worse because I emailed 3 days ago to make sure I was still the first SOLD customer and they said yes, which only got my hopes up further. 

 

I'm asking to see when the next earliest date they can get me in for is, but truthfully I'm not very hopeful anymore and things are looking pretty bleak. Ugh apologies for the rambling post. I'm pretty bummed right now. :'(

 

Anyway, all that to say if anyone is planning to line up for a friend and would be willing to pick up 2 tickets each, I would be happy to pay for both seats of seats, be them regular or premium tickets. Feel free to PM me if so. I would love to try and make it ASAP for one of Lin's performances. 

Updated On: 5/26/16 at 08:58 PM

[Boday]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 9:37pm

I am in the same boat with SOLD If any two folks are willing to wait the overnight shift next Thursday 5/26 for Friday's show, I would gladly pay for your tickets in exchange for my husband and me as your +1's. Shoot me a message!

(My flight arrives at 8am Friday morning and our hotel is nearby the RRT, so we'd provide slightly late breakfast, lunch and dinner too!)

Updated On: 5/19/16 at 09:37 PM

[schubox]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 9:48pm

Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. 

[jdra]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:00pm

schubox said: "Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. "

It is that times 2 a night.

[schubox]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:07pm

jdra said: "schubox said: "Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. "

It is that times 2 a night.

 

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What?

[jdra]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:13pm

schubox said: "jdra said: "schubox said: "Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. "

It is that times 2 a night."

What?"

2 guests(1 customer)  will need 2 linesitters and 4 tickets.

[meepsnyc]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:20pm

jdra said: "schubox said: "jdra said: "schubox said: "Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. "

It is that times 2 a night."

What?"

2 guests(1 customer)  will need 2 linesitters and 4 tickets.

 

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Actually we only wanted 2 premium tickets. I didn't want to take any spots from other fans in the cancellation line who were hoping to get tickets as well. 

[schubox]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:25pm

jdra said: "schubox said: "jdra said: "schubox said: "Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. "

It is that times 2 a night."

What?"

2 guests(1 customer)  will need 2 linesitters and 4 tickets.

 

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So they take one customer but will use two line sitters insuring you get two seats? So then you're buying 4 seats and the sitters are going in? And then taking two seats away from other people in the line? I have no issue with sitters, hell I used one, but I would not feel comfortable using one if it meant I was taking away seats form other people in line that went to the sitters. Plus 36 hours for two sitters is $1440. Plus $177 per ticket (I know it can be more or less, but let's average) is $708. So that's over $2100 for a chance at tickets. At that point just buy seats off Stubhub.

[jdra]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:33pm

schubox said: "jdra said: "schubox said: "jdra said: "schubox said: "Taking one customer a night, but you still have to buy them a ticket? That's really only going to work out for a person looking for a single then. "

It is that times 2 a night."

What?"

2 guests(1 customer)  will need 2 linesitters and 4 tickets.

 

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So they take one customer but will use two line sitters insuring you get two seats? So then you're buying 4 seats and the sitters are going in? And then taking two seats away from other people in the line? I have no issue with sitters, hell I used one, but I would not feel comfortable using one if it meant I was taking away seats form other people in line that went to the sitters. Plus 36 hours for two sitters is $1440. Plus $177 per ticket (I know it can be more or less, but let's average) is $708. So that's over $2100 for a chance at tickets. At that point just buy seats off Stubhub."

It is a little less; better deal on the linesit. But the situation is ever changing. I just think the whole situation pretty much sucks. Again, I think the larger issue is that the scalpers hold the tickets for up to a third of the house some nights. I wonder what it would be like if that had not been possible somehow.

[casedilla2]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:44pm

The thing is that with the new rules, it's far cheaper to find two people who intended to wait on the cancellation anyways for tickets for themselves and just offer to pay for their tickets. That way you're still paying for four tickets, but not having to pay an additional fee to the line sitters as well.

[jdra]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 10:49pm

casedilla2 said: "The thing is that with the new rules, it's far cheaper to find two people who intended to wait on the cancellation anyways for tickets for themselves and just offer to pay for their tickets. That way you're still paying for four tickets, but not having to pay an additional fee to the line sitters as well."

Yes! If it can be arranged.

Updated On: 5/19/16 at 10:49 PM

[HAMFAN]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 11:25pm

MyFavoriteBrunette said: "mbusani14 said: "If you are waiting in line for a matinee (let's say Saturday for example) and you don't get tickets...are you automatically in line for the evening show or are they two separate lines? 

 

Typically, yes.  You continue to wait for Sat evening but if someone comes And claims first spot for Sat evening before matinee tickets are distributed, not interested in matinee at all, then one must line up behind them after matinee tix are distributed.    

 

 

Saturday the 14th they made everyone in the Sat line chose which show they were going to and they divided the line.  If you didn't get mat, you could go to the end of the long evening line.  It will be interesting to see what they do this week.

 

 

 

[schubox]

Posted: 5/19/16 at 11:26pm

casedilla2 said: "The thing is that with the new rules, it's far cheaper to find two people who intended to wait on the cancellation anyways for tickets for themselves and just offer to pay for their tickets. That way you're still paying for four tickets, but not having to pay an additional fee to the line sitters as well.

 

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Yeah that's not bad at all. I'm not sure how you'd arrange that though. Go out in the middle of the night and hope two people are there? Give them the $ up front? Not a bad idea though

[Em6]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 12:01am

schubox said: "casedilla2 said: "The thing is that with the new rules, it's far cheaper to find two people who intended to wait on the cancellation anyways for tickets for themselves and just offer to pay for their tickets. That way you're still paying for four tickets, but not having to pay an additional fee to the line sitters as well.

 

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Yeah that's not bad at all. I'm not sure how you'd arrange that though. Go out in the middle of the night and hope two people are there? Give them the $ up front? Not a bad idea though

 

"That would be a sweet arrangement.  We've hired sitters in the past and this would be so much cheaper. 

It would be simple if the people waiting in line for you were 1st in line--you all will get in for sure. But, let's say  we were a couple paying for another couple waiting in line, and there is another person infront of them, who's 1st in line and taking 2 tix.  That means 6 tix would need to be released for all of us to get in.  What if only 4 tix are released?  I am going to assume that the couple waiting in line gets the tickets since they did the hard work, right?  That would be fair. In that case, they'll just pay for their own tickets, I guess?  Still a good deal.  

Last month we hired a sitter  for 22 hours, and he was next in line when the last ticket was sold.  We still had to pay for their services, of course.  We were OK with that since we knew from the start that that could possibly happen.

Anyway, "buddy system" would be a win-win for all parties involved. 

 

Updated On: 5/20/16 at 12:01 AM

[gatorgirl2]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 12:21am

schubox said: "casedilla2 said: "The thing is that with the new rules, it's far cheaper to find two people who intended to wait on the cancellation anyways for tickets for themselves and just offer to pay for their tickets. That way you're still paying for four tickets, but not having to pay an additional fee to the line sitters as well.

 

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Yeah that's not bad at all. I'm not sure how you'd arrange that though. Go out in the middle of the night and hope two people are there? Give them the $ up front? Not a bad idea though

 

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I mean this board is a good place to start lol I'm willing to offer my services for next Fridays show. Just one of me though so idk if that complicates things but if anyone wants to pm me just let me know! 

Updated On: 5/20/16 at 12:21 AM

[MinervaMoon]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 1:27am

Cape Twirl of Doom said: Saying that a woman is unsafe at night unless she has someone with her to protect her is patently sexist. 

This is honestly such a weirdly misguided statement that I don't know where to begin. Being anti-sexism (or pro-feminism or however you want to frame it) does not mean that you have to firmly stand behind the claim that any young woman is safe by herself at night on the streets of a city. It's like you're trying to stand up for women's agency without even considering that there are factors beyond their control. Nearly every woman in NYC can give you a story about getting unwanted attention on the street by a man (or men) in broad daylight, which is scary enough, so you can bet that the prospect of being harassed at night is even more intimidating. On the whole, women experience this kind of thing on a daily basis; I literally got it from two passers-by in one hour while I was sitting, you guessed it, on the steps of the Richard Rodgers waiting for them to set up barricades for the stage door on Wednesday night. Luckily, I was chatting with some girls I had just met and wasn't alone, otherwise I wouldn't have been surprised if they had felt entitled to stop and try to monopolize my attention. It's not even that women are only concerned about being outright murdered -- street harassment can take many forms, and being hassled because you're alone is not any woman's idea of a good time. You're also assuming that "you're safer in company" is synonymous with "make sure you have A MAN around", which is pretty casually sexist on your part.

[broadwayfever]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 3:02am

I went by the Richard Rodgers theater about 3 hours ago and there was already 7 people waiting in line for tomorrow. So for those who are worried about the dangers in Time Square, know that you'll have a pretty good support group waiting with you...regardless of which day you choose.

[schubox]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 4:36am

broadwayfever said: "I went by the Richard Rodgers theater about 3 hours ago and there was already 7 people waiting in line for tomorrow. So for those who are worried about the dangers in Time Square, know that you'll have a pretty good support group waiting with you...regardless of which day you choose.

 

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Jesus. The more I hear about the lines everyday the more I wonder if it is even worth it. I was gonna do 5am, then I resigned myself to 3am. And you're saying there are 7 people by midnight? I think a big reason why they revised the cancellation line policy was because they were getting sick of the constant presence of people in front of the theater sitting. And that worked for like a week apparently. I assume we'll be back to 24 hour waits by the end of next week.

[sarahb22]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 7:06am

schubox said: "Jesus. The more I hear about the lines everyday the more I wonder if it is even worth it. I was gonna do 5am, then I resigned myself to 3am. And you're saying there are 7 people by midnight? I think a big reason why they revised the cancellation line policy was because they were getting sick of the constant presence of people in front of the theater sitting. And that worked for like a week apparently. I assume we'll be back to 24 hour waits by the end of next week."

And summer hasn't even started yet. Can you imagine the lines when the weather warms up and the tourist season begins? It'll be 30 deep by the time the previous night's show lets out!

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 7:31am

schubox said: "Jesus. The more I hear about the lines everyday the more I wonder if it is even worth it. I was gonna do 5am, then I resigned myself to 3am. And you're saying there are 7 people by midnight? I think a big reason why they revised the cancellation line policy was because they were getting sick of the constant presence of people in front of the theater sitting. And that worked for like a week apparently. I assume we'll be back to 24 hour waits by the end of next week."

Yeap...

 

[MISH2]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 7:37am

sarahb22 said: "schubox said: "Jesus. The more I hear about the lines everyday the more I wonder if it is even worth it. I was gonna do 5am, then I resigned myself to 3am. And you're saying there are 7 people by midnight? I think a big reason why they revised the cancellation line policy was because they were getting sick of the constant presence of people in front of the theater sitting. And that worked for like a week apparently. I assume we'll be back to 24 hour waits by the end of next week."

And summer hasn't even started yet. Can you imagine the lines when the weather warms up and the tourist season begins? It'll be 30 deep by the time the previous night's show lets out!

 

Looks like it's pretty random as to what time you have to get there/how many people show up/how many tickets there will be.  That's why it's so difficult to plan.  3 a.m. may be fine some days, but all it takes is 2 or 3 people to show up before you or 2 or 3 VIPs to be there the next day and get priority for house seats or everyone showing up for tickets won in the online lottery vs. 2 people forgetting to check their email at 4 p.m. - or a combination of all of the above!

In other words, all it takes is a few people doing something differently for 3 a.m. (on the day of the show) to be a winning time vs. having to be on line 36 hours before show time!

In the linesitters' heyday, they routinely moved back the starting time to wait, based on the previous days' experiences, because in order for the system to work, they simply had to be first on line.  And second...and maybe even third.  On some of those days, some of their clients may have had to pay for quite a few hours of their time unnecessarily (i.e. linesitters show up 36 hours before the show and the next person on line shows up 24 hours before), but it wasn't such a big deal when one linesitter was able to buy 2 tickets for their client.  The price was still well below resale prices (and still is, when you consider how great the house seats are.)  

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the warmer weather.  

[Sunshine31]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 8:03am

Delete. 

Updated On: 5/21/16 at 08:03 AM

[Jennabee]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 8:04am

Em6 said: "Anyway, "buddy system" would be a win-win for all parties involved."

Yep, and my daughter and I might be doing this.  We just don't know yet a) if we're going to NYC at all, b) when, if so (the week of May 30th-June 5th seems most likely, with Tuesday-Thursday being the most likely stretch within that) and c) what route we will take to tickets (or the attempt thereof).  But currently we are seriously considering waiting in line and if so would be willing to buddy up.  

[Jennabee]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 8:10am

MISH2 said: "Looks like it's pretty random as to what time you have to get there/how many people show up/how many tickets there will be.  That's why it's so difficult to plan.  3 a.m. may be fine some days, but all it takes is 2 or 3 people to show up before you or 2 or 3 VIPs to be there the next day and get priority for house seats or everyone showing up for tickets won in the online lottery vs. 2 people forgetting to check their email at 4 p.m. - or a combination of all of the above!"

Exactly!  One thing I seem to notice since I've been researching this (although it could just be another coincidence) is that some of the unpredictable effects are *because* of the attempts at prediction.  That is, people say "Tuesdays tend to be light!" and so a bunch of people show up for the next Tuesday.  Then, "Wow Tuesday was SWAMPED" and then people stay away from the Tuesday after that.  

IF we decide to do this, I think I'm going to go ahead and give myself an out; show up, see how many people there are, and if I'm more than 10th in line (say) just give it up and enjoy NYC.  :)

[MISH2]

Posted: 5/20/16 at 8:15am

Jennabee said: "MISH2 said: "Looks like it's pretty random as to what time you have to get there/how many people show up/how many tickets there will be.  That's why it's so difficult to plan.  3 a.m. may be fine some days, but all it takes is 2 or 3 people to show up before you or 2 or 3 VIPs to be there the next day and get priority for house seats or everyone showing up for tickets won in the online lottery vs. 2 people forgetting to check their email at 4 p.m. - or a combination of all of the above!"

Exactly!  One thing I seem to notice since I've been researching this (although it could just be another coincidence) is that some of the unpredictable effects are *because* of the attempts at prediction.  That is, people say "Tuesdays tend to be light!" and so a bunch of people show up for the next Tuesday.  Then, "Wow Tuesday was SWAMPED" and then people stay away from the Tuesday after that.  

IF we decide to do this, I think I'm going to go ahead and give myself an out; show up, see how many people there are, and if I'm more than 10th in line (say) just give it up and enjoy NYC.  :)

 

The next thing you know, someone who plans to go next Thursday, let's say, will post "I tried to get in last Thursday and there were 15 people on line at midnight" so that people will stay away NEXT Thursday.