Hamilton on Disney to be MUTED?

I wouldn't have expected anything different from Disney. Did you really think that a company who prides itself on being extremely family-friendly would be okay with releasing something that includes the lyrics "southern motherf*cking democratic republicans", "when they knock me down I get the f*ck back up again", or "you must be outta your g*ddamn mind"?

I'm not an advocate for censoring - I believe that material should always be presented the way it was intended when written - but Disney is doing a really great thing by making this show accessible to the public who otherwise wouldn't have an opportunity to see it, and if a few small edits are necessary to make it fit their standards, then so be it. It's already been filmed, so it's not like they can rewrite the lyrics without profanity and film it that way. It's too late for that.

OP, I think a more appropriate word choice would have been "censored" rather than "muted." Now I'm imagining Lin-Manuel as a kind of trickster genie telling the public "I said you'd get a Hamilton pro-shot, I didn't say it would have any sound!"

I don’t know what they’re going to do with the theaters but if the distributed the show on their streaming platform, they might have two different versions with one being more kid friendly.

I hear the whole character of Maria Reynolds will be cut.

Updated On: 2/13/20 at 10:34 AM

MPAA ratings are kind of arbitrary. Usually a film can say "f**k" once and still be PG-13; one use of "motherf**ker" or "f**k" in a sexual way usually triggers an R-rating.

If this video is correct, there are only 3 "f**k"s in Hamilton, and it would be pretty easy to bleep all 3. There's no question that the story of Hamilton is PG-13 at minimum, but PG-13 still gets you a MUCH broader audience than R, especially in rural America. And Disney+ does show PG-13 content.

GreasedLightning said: "While I understand all points being made, I have to say that the “motherf*cking democrat republicans” line will just not land as hard without the profanity. That’s a fact. "

I disagree. If they only played the mother part of that word and censored the f bomb, the line will still land. Even if you are someone who is new to the material, and that part does get censored, you’d be able to know what they are saying therefor it would still land.


Also, there’s self censoring in the show too. For example, in the song “Adams Administration,” Hamilton sings “sit down John, you fat mother—-.” They beeped that bit on stage yet we know what he was saying. Same thing with the letter from James Reynolds. When Reynolds says the line you see it was my wife you decided to, Hamilton just sighs somewhat without saying the word. Similar thing happens when Hamilton shares the letter with Jefferson, Madison and Burr. Instead of saying the F bomb Jefferson says “what.” Instead.

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "MPAA ratings arekind of arbitrary.Usuallya film can say "f**k" once and still be PG-13;one use of "motherf**ker" or "f**k" in a sexual way usually triggersan R-rating.

If this video is correct, there are only 3 "f**k"s in Hamilton, and it would be pretty easy to bleep all 3. There's no questionthat the story ofHamiltonis PG-13 at minimum, but PG-13 stillgets you a MUCHbroader audience than R, especially in rural America. And Disney+ does show PG-13 content."

I'd be reallyyyyyyy surprised if they didn't try to go PG on this.

Maybe they'll just overdub the "objectionable" words, like non-cable TV channels do when they air shows like Sex and the City.

Islander_fan said: "GreasedLightning said: "While I understand all points being made, I have to say that the “motherf*cking democrat republicans” line will just not land as hard without the profanity. That’s a fact. "

I disagree. If they only played the mother part of that word and censored the f bomb, the line will still land. Even if you are someone who is new to the material, and that part does get censored, you’d be able to know what they are saying therefor it would still land.


Also, there’s self censoring in the show too. For example, in the song “Adams Administration,” Hamilton sings “sit down John, you fat mother—-.” They beeped that bit on stage yet we know what he was saying. Same thing with the letter from James Reynolds. When Reynolds says the line you see it was my wife you decided to, Hamilton just sighs somewhat without saying the word. Similar thing happens when Hamilton shares the letter with Jefferson, Madison and Burr. Instead of saying the F bomb Jefferson says “what.” Instead."

And one of the most produced shows is mother - *steps away from the mic* - Seussical!

ellbellthomps said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "MPAA ratings arekind of arbitrary.Usuallya film can say "f**k" once and still be PG-13;one use of "motherf**ker" or "f**k" in a sexual way usually triggersan R-rating.

If this video is correct, there are only 3 "f**k"s in Hamilton, and it would be pretty easy to bleep all 3. There's no questionthat the story ofHamiltonis PG-13 at minimum, but PG-13 stillgets you a MUCHbroader audience than R, especially in rural America. And Disney+ does show PG-13 content."

I'd be reallyyyyyyy surprised if they didn't try to go PG on this.

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Disney is perfectly fine with PG13 content, as nearly all Disney Marvel, Star Wars, and Pirates of the Caribbean films are PG13. The only Disney content that is PG or under is fairy tale content, which Hamilton does not fall into. DIsney distributed Stephen Spielberg and Daniel Day Lewis's Lincoln which was rated PG13.

LMM is the perfect example of what Disney money does to people

PG-13 allows a certain number of uses of the f-word as exclamation, as long as none of them are as a verb for copulation. Disney's ABC sitcom "The Goldbergs" has a running gag of how foul-mouthed the wholesome sitcom mom is, dropping the f-word at least once per episode and getting bleeped (usually as part of a longer, more colorful and heavily censored chain of curses). I wouldn't be surprised if there's at least one f-word on the Disney+ roster already in the acquisition of Marvel films, though I wouldn't bet money on it.