Heidi Chronicles to close? — Page 4

"You are never interested in having a real conversation when people disagree with you. You disregard and ignore arguments that you either don't understand or that don't back up whatever you are trying to assert. You seem totally incapable of believing you are not the most knowledgeable one on this forum."

that is not true at all! I was trying to understand why Hogan said that Heidi Chronicles on Broadway never made sense to him. Now i understand his point of view. omgosh, i can't even ask questions without you guys thinking I'm attacking someone. lorddddd

""You are never interested in having a real conversation when people disagree with you. You disregard and ignore arguments that you either don't understand or that don't back up whatever you are trying to assert. You seem totally incapable of believing you are not the most knowledgeable one on this forum."
that is not true at all! I was trying to understand why Hogan said that Heidi Chronicles on Broadway never made sense to him. Now i understand his point of view. omgosh, i can't even ask questions without you guys thinking I'm attacking someone. lorddddd"

No, you weren't. How do I know that? Because instead of asking, "why don't you think it makes sense?" you said:

Hogan doesn't think anything makes sense. All producers are stupid and should just produce shows like Wicked and Aladdin

And now we're here. And that's what you do, in a nutshell.

Updated On: 4/11/15 at 12:40 PM

Philly,

She can draw audiences, but not enough for a product that can't draw on its own at all, and not in this kind of product anyway... at the moment. They changed their marketing for a reason.

I think it's a shame the producers didn't seem to realize the problem with hiring an opera singer famous for singing who'd never been on Broadway and promoting it around her as a product in which she doesn't sing. They've changed that a bit now, but the damage may be done.

Regardless this is the Heidi Chronicles thread. I believe we should discuss Living on Love in its thread.

You're incorrect, and you're starting to sound like another poster who mysteriously vanished once you started posting here. Interesting.

"because it seems like he thinks nothing makes sense!"

Pinto, this is a perfect example of what you do that everyone finds so objectionable. When you said this before, I responded that I think all but two shows that I have identified make sense. I even explained why one of them didn't make sense when you asked. Where is that predicate in this comment from you now? It's as if you are writing on a blank slate.

Well, you were not "just saying" that in what I quoted, but I guess you want to conveniently ignore that. In any event, as to this new comment by you, the difference is that HTG has a marketing plan that makes sense and a financial plan that makes sense. It is also a property with a provenance. LOL has none of the above.

by provenance I meant a distinguished provenance. It would have been clearer to use the word pedigree.

the financial plan of the show is contained in the offering papers. I am neither a producer nor an investor on the show (and if I were either I would not have posted about the show, as that is my practice). But I have discussed the budget with colleagues, and may have glanced at it as well.

The financial model for LOL is the superstar limited run. It assumes that Ms. Fleming would trigger an advance and ticket sales on the level of Helen Mirren, Bradley Cooper and the like. That equation is not sensible.

I would never criticize you for "simply asking genuine questions" as you have done here. I know there are people who would like for you to leave; I would prefer for you to stay and learn, if you can continue to ask good questions, make solid comments and offer whatever opinions you might have. Think you can do that?

PhillyP

I chatted with a couple on the subway going home tonight from FUN HOME (See Review there) and we exchanged on how we enjoyed our shows...the guys basically said she should stick with opera and that they hated the play LOL as did their friends. Also, commenting that the critics probably won't be kind.

Just saying...

Great, one more thread I thought might be interesting hijacked by juvenile bickering. Why don't you just message one another with your personal pettiness rather than boor the rest of us with it?

"Well i certainly doubt anybody would think Renee would bring in Bradley Cooper or Helen Mirren numbers"

That's exactly my point. The business model they are using (limited run with a path to recoupment only because because the star can sell it out, much at premium prices) makes no sense.

Meanwhile, twitter from UK reporter following King Charles III's win for Best New Play claims the play will be going into The Music Box in October. Heidi Chronicles already shows an August 9 closing date on one ticket site - although the Shubert site just says selling tickets through August 9.