Birdie Boy said: "No announcement, not looking good"
One of the producers posted about it on Insta and when folks were commenting they wanted a transfer, the producer was responding with fingers crossed and supportive emojis
”There is no weight, no tension…it’s very high school talent contest or karaoke at Marie’s Crisis.”
Marie’s Crisis at least has some mature tones provided by the older queens. But yes the thinness of the ensemble sound during Sunset was another reason I rolled my eyes at it. The characters in these worlds need to be grounded. Not the essence of “Just arrived, track 17…!” or “NYC, just got here this morning…”
Andrew Lloyd Webber was there thanking the cast tonight. It seems like Jamie Lloyd is in ny
Birdie Boy said: "Andrew Lloyd Webber was there thanking the cast tonight. It seems like Jamie Lloyd is in ny"
Yes he’s in rehearsal for Godot. I suppose he could have taken Saturday off if he wanted to. But it seems the Evita joy has worn off.
ALW’s presence may indicate an informal “reclaiming of the show”.
The only thing that matters is money and this will make a lot of it in New York. It will transfer.
TotallyEffed said: "The only thing that matters is money and this will make a lot of it in New York. It will transfer."
At this point it’s probably Tony contention. I’m sure people would love to see two first-class and critically-acclaimed reimagined ALW revivals in the same season, and even book two-show days, but that puts ALW against himself which is not the best business move on their part. We will probably have an Evita Summer 2.0 in 2026 once Cats has opened and finished off the awards season.
BorisTomashevsky said: "Birdie Boy said: "Andrew Lloyd Webber was there thanking the cast tonight. It seems like Jamie Lloyd is in ny"
Yes he’s in rehearsal for Godot. I suppose he could have taken Saturday off if he wanted to. But it seems the Evita joy has worn off.
ALW’s presence may indicate an informal “reclaiming of the show”."
Godot starts previews next week Sat surprised he didn't take a red eye for closing and be back for final tech-dress week on Monday!?
TotallyEffed said: "The only thing that matters is money and this will make a lot of it in New York. It will transfer."
“A lot” doesn’t necessarily mean “enough”. Yes, the cast will be cheaper than Sunset’s was but we’re seeing more and more that NYC sees through London’s New Clothes.
I read a write up on Facebook from this Friday’s performance that said the audience wouldn’t stop clapping and cheering throughout, and in an over the top way, and at places that don’t need it. If that’s what’s happening, they’re clearly not listening to Evita - they’re listening to vocal stylings that just happen to be done over the words and music of something called Evita.
We all know that the thing that makes a show great is the book, the book, the book. Well if no one understands what’s happening, they’re not getting the book - the most important part of the show.
And I think “first class” fits best with shows that have sets. The cameras and speakers they’re using might be first class, but the physical world is not.
Boris! who would be surprisingly good for you, says Goodnight and Thank You, Whoever…
Obviously Jamie Lloyd wants Evita in New York. He wants another 4 million bucks
Birdie Boy said: "Obviously Jamie Lloyd wants Evita in New York. He wants another 4 million bucks"
Wasn’t that 4 million his share of producing it? As in that what he contributed, not what his fee was?
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I read a write up on Facebook from this Friday’s performance that said the audience wouldn’t stop clapping and cheering throughout, and in an over the top way, and at places that don’t need it. If that’s what’s happening, they’reclearly not listening to Evita - they’re listening to vocal stylings that just happen to be done over the words and music of something called Evita.
We all know that the thing that makes a show great is the book, the book, the book. Well if no one understands what’s happening, they’re not getting the book - the most important part of the show.
And Ithink “first class” fits best with shows that have sets. The cameras and speakers they’re using might be first class, but the physical world is not.
Looks like someone read 3/4 of a news story, made their mind up and decided to create their own 'facts'.
You haven't seen the production and haven't experienced it as an audience member. I have seen it twice so can chime in with more than just hearsay from some anonymous Facebook post.
I would not doubt that the final week of performances may have had extended moments of applause but that has nothing to do with 'vocal stylings' and everything to do with audiences relishing a profound theatrical experience. London hasn't seen a smash like this in ages so the momentum the show had going into it's final performances certainly made it an event.
But no, go ahead and keep trashing a production you haven't even seen.
“I have seen it twice so can chime in with more than just hearsay from some anonymous Facebook post.”
How is your anonymous comment on a Broadway forum more reliable than a Facebook post from someone I know personally?
“audiences relishing a profound theatrical experience.”
At the end of which that audience can’t tell you who’s who or what’s going on.
“But no, go ahead and keep trashing a production you haven't even seen.”
Jamie Lloyd trashed it long before anyone else could.
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How is your anonymous comment on a Broadway forum more reliable than a Facebook post from someone I know personally?
Why should anybody here care what an associate of yours thinks? You can't speak with authority on the subject so you stretch it to 'a friend told me' to give your bias some accountability? Sad.
Interesting that you have such a strong and foreceful opinion about something you haven't even seen. You might want to get that checked.
“Interesting that you have such a strong and foreceful opinion about something you haven't even seen. You might want to get that checked.”
Tell that to everybody against the Times Square Casino.
But also, interesting that you have such a strong opinion about my opinion. Is this hall of mirrors as much fun for you as it is for me? 🙄
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But also, interesting that you have such a strong opinion about my opinion. Is this hall of mirrors as much fun for you as it is for me? 🙄"
What a crashing bore. Your 'opinions' serve no actual purpose as they aren't based on anything but biased assumptions or word of mouth from others.
What an interesting waste of your time.
Adios.
Updated On: 9/7/25 at 09:40 AM
Come on. You are making claims Boris about what the audience are reacting to for a show you haven’t even seen and an audience you haven’t even heard. I have been going to the theatre for a long time and I don’t think I have ever seen an audience respond like this. For you to reduce it to ‘vocal stylings’ seems so absurd.
Do you think many people here want to read the unfounded conclusions drawn from people who haven’t even seen the show, or would they prefer to read from the posters who have actually seen the show?
As far as audience response goes - for whatever reason - I have very rarely in my life felt a theater shake the way it did during curtain call each time I saw this one. Personal thoughts on the show itself aside, which like “Sunset”, I think the performances were much better than the physical production, it hit a nerve with the audience who lost their damn minds each night and I thought it was cool to see/feel.
I still maintain this not transferring could be a terrible sign for the health of Bway. This is a production that absolutely would have transferred anytime pre-pandemic, or anytime pre-now really.
It broke through to pop culture, seemed to cause a sensation, and while not a tiny show like that Cake musical or Mincemeat, it's not massive spectacle so large it would've precluded it prior to common econmics.
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BorisTomashevsky said: "“Interesting that you have such a strong and foreceful opinion about something you haven't even seen. You might want to get that checked.”
Tell that to everybody against the Times Square Casino.
But also, interesting that you have such a strong opinion about my opinion. Is this hall of mirrors as much fun for you as it is for me? 🙄"
God you’re a nuisance. Please find a hobby outside of whatever relationship it is you have with theatre because it’s so clearly not serving you. We’d all be better if you did actually.
You have actual British people that are saying the Cannes style 15 minute long standing ovations are now taking over the west end. It’s less about them liking it and more about the amount of money they spent. Thankfully, we’ve gone in the opposite direction, I’m noticing a heck of a lot less standing ovations in New York, it’s wonderful to see
Saw this on Friday and Zegler’s voice really is something to be heard. Powerful and strong but effortless and HEALTHY, on one of the hardest roles/scores in the MT canon. The production itself did feel a bit like Encores and the concept didn’t totally work for me, but when it works it works really well. Let’s make the populist a pop star. Evita is one of my favorite shows so I had no issue following… honestly I didn’t even need to follow because I knew what was coming next. I do understand people not being able to follow since in typical Lloyd fashion a lot of times the actions don’t match the word. I also think doing the show dressed down makes it all seem same-ish. Regardless it was a great night out. I always appreciate a big swing, even if it’s not a home run (sorry for the sports metaphor lmao)
Considering the set is mostly just risers and the costumes aren’t particularly lavish, the upfront cost to produce this is probably rather low compared to big musicals like Death Becomes Her. Although I can see running costs being an issue due to some of the tech aspects. The economics of transferring this to bway look good in my eyes. I just don’t know if broadway audiences will appreciate the stripped down take, I have MANY friends who hated Sunset for that exact reason.
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BJR said: "I still maintain this not transferring could be a terrible sign for the health of Bway. This is a production that absolutely would have transferred anytime pre-pandemic, or anytime pre-now really.
It broke through to pop culture, seemed to cause a sensation, and while not a tiny show like that Cake musical or Mincemeat, it's not massive spectacle so large it would've precluded it prior to common economics."
It’s one reason why I was concerned about the apparent financial failure of Sunset Blvd., even though I had mixed feelings about that revival. I know there were reasons (the cost of that production was pretty high despite the lack of a traditional set, there were months when the box office performance wasn’t anything special) but it still felt ominous.
In Evita, which I have not seen but someone I know saw twice - not to mention board regulars like binau, Jordan Catalans, raddersons, et cetera - I have a pretty good idea what to expect. It would come to New York City laden with controversy and attention you cannot buy. Sheer curiosity would drive ticket buyers.
If a Jamie Lloyd-directed spactacle of one of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s most famous musicals starring one of the most talented but divisive young musical theater performers alive cannot sell, that’s a bad sign. In the end, that’s why I assume it’s coming - barring an economic collapse.
Birdie Boy said: "You have actual British people that are saying the Cannes style 15 minute long standing ovations are now taking over the west end. It’s less about them liking it and more about the amount of money they spent. Thankfully, we’ve gone in the opposite direction,I’m noticing a heck of a lot less standing ovations in New York, it’s wonderful to see"
‘Actual British people?’. What does this mean? I have lived in London for almost a decade. I go to the theatre regularly, almost weekly. It is simply not the case that this is standard fare. It is common to have the same kind of Broadway standing ovation after every show but not THIS. It has been a true ovation filled with sincere admiration and good will.
Jordan also has vouched for this and while he doesn’t appear to live here, he also sees practically everything notable in London if you read his posts.
At this point this is starting to feel like gaslighting lol.
The whatsonstage podcast talked about standing ovations taking over the west end, mickeyjo has talked about it, others have talked about it. So unless you’re calling all of them liars, this is what is happening in the West End; Cheap standing ovations which should not be seen as any indicator whatsoever.
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