La LuPone gives her unvarnished opinion of Donald Trump- Page 2

[lovebwy]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 1:52pm

Mamaleh is a Trump supporter.

[Mike66]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 3:14pm

Luscious said: "@z5 said: "So true, mamaleh, ridiculously ill al this political bashing....just stick to what the night, and your performance is about. Be an ENTERTAINER! So ridiculous and childish already the way these people act nonstop."

"

This is such a short sighted and unfair statement.

It reminds me of the people who said that Dr. King shouldn't comment on Vietnam,

Or Jackie Robinson or Arthur Ashe should only discuss sports.

"These People" are citizens of what used to be understood to be a country in which there was Freedom of Speech.

You are right, Z5, Ms. LuPone and all those "people" really ought to know their place.  Yazzm.

Updated On: 5/20/17 at 03:14 PM

[darreyl102]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 3:15pm

I love her even more for this!!!

[mar6411]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 3:32pm

Mike66 said: "Luscious said: "@z5 said: "So true, mamaleh, ridiculously ill al this political bashing....just stick to what the night, and your performance is about. Be an ENTERTAINER! So ridiculous and childish already the way these people act nonstop."


You are right, Luscious, Ms. LuPone and all those "people" really ought to know their place.  Yazzm.

Just to clarify - you called out the wrong person.  Luscious was quoting @z5 (a long-standing Trump supporter) and then responded similarly to you.  It was @z5 that made the statement you are responding too.

 

[Mike66]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 3:45pm

Just to clarify - you called out the wrong person.  Luscious was quoting @z5 (a long-standing Trump supporter) and then responded similarly to you.  It was @z5 that made the statement you are responding too.

 THANK YOU.  You are correct.  I have edited my post.  Apologies to Luscious.

m

 

"

 

[Dancingthrulife2]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 3:57pm

Call_me_jorge said: "This got me excited for tony award night. The amount of times he will be mentioned will be astronomical and I'm ready. Ugh, just thinking about Ben's speech and how much I'll cry. 

 

"

Ben's speech hasn't been "his speech" recently. It'll be interesting to see whether Ben will continue this very carefully and deliberately crafted PR speech or give everyone a little bit of himself.

[Pippin]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 4:12pm

@z5 said: "So true, mamaleh, ridiculously ill al this political bashing....just stick to what the night, and your performance is about. Be an ENTERTAINER! So ridiculous and childish already the way these people act nonstop.

 

You do realize that Trump is an entertainer, right? He is a fame seeking reality show whore who carries around copies of the previous nights' television ratings in his jacket pocket (not a joke) And he has certainly never held back his opinion about ANYTHING........LITERALLY ANYTHING........So why should other entertainers be any different? Or is this the run of the mill "Do as I say, not as I do" attitude that Trump and his supporters (Mameleh) are so fond of espousing?

 

[SweetLips]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 4:21pm

She sure doesn't know how to articulate without using the F word---NOT  a class act.

Express an opinion without the overacting theatrics.

[Pippin]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 4:22pm

SweetLips said: Express an opinion without the overacting theatrics.

 

 

............You DO realize we're discussing Patti Lupone, right?

 

[lovebwy]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 4:22pm

SweetLips is a Trump supporter.

[Pippin]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 4:30pm

Ironic, because "Sweetlips" is Putin's nickname for Trump.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 4:50pm

Dancingthrulife2 said: "Call_me_jorge said: "This got me excited for tony award night. The amount of times he will be mentioned will be astronomical and I'm ready. Ugh, just thinking about Ben's speech and how much I'll cry. 

 

"

Ben's speech hasn't been "his speech" recently. It'll be interesting to see whether Ben will continue this very carefully and deliberately crafted PR speech or give everyone a little bit of himself.

 

"

Have you heard PR acceptance speeches in the past? I'm sure he'll be as true as possible.

[Lot666]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 5:10pm

icecreambenjamin said: "If you don't speak out against the injustices happening in this world, you are part of the problem...We currently have a president who based his whole compaign on xenophobia, racism, and hate.  He is a fascist leader who has proven himself time and time again to be completely unqualified for this position."

Couldn't have said it better.

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 5:34pm

I don't have an issue with artists sharing their political opinion so long as they can respect others who totally feel another way. I feel like Patti would have a major issue with someone who said what she said about unvetted Barack. Steven Pasquale is especially unhinged these days- looks like he's aged 15 years and tweets absolutely outlandish conspiracy theories. He's allowed, but then he gets so sanctimonious when someone badmouths who he likes. He's a hypocrite who's only hurt himself, i was a huge fan of his and now you couldn't pay me to attend anything he's ever in.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 6:31pm

I have zero issue with LuPones comments and agree with them. That being said, I would hope you'd all offer the same support of free speech to those conservative/republican entertainers out there (a small number exist).  I have no tolerance for hypocrisy and double standards -- so let's hope you all afford the same allowance to entertainers of an opposing political view, as infuriating as many may find it. Including myself. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 6:31pm

I have zero issue with LuPones comments and agree with them. That being said, I would hope you'd all offer the same support of free speech to those conservative/republican entertainers out there (a small number exist).  I have no tolerance for hypocrisy and double standards -- so let's hope you all afford the same allowance to entertainers of an opposing political view, as infuriating as many may find it. Including myself. 

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 6:38pm

Lol @ "unvetted Barack"- remind me, when did Trump show us his tax returns? Remind me, when did Trump serve in literally any level of government? 

It would be so much easier to take Republicans seriously if they didn't operate in a fantasy world. There are fair critiques to be made of Obama, but stuff like that is ridiculous. 

[ljay889]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 6:45pm

Why are some of you acting like this is the first time Patti has said something unfiltered? This is Patti. It's no surprise. 

[icecreambenjamin]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 6:52pm

Liza's Headband said: "I have zero issue with LuPones comments and agree with them. That being said, I would hope you'd all offer the same support of free speech to those conservative/republican entertainers out there (a small number exist).  I have no tolerance for hypocrisy and double standards -- so let's hope you all afford the same allowance to entertainers of an opposing political view, as infuriating as many may find it. Including myself. 

I will not respect nor will I support anyone who pledges their allegiance to Trump.  By giving your support to such a vile human being, you are telling me that you are a complete and total xenophobe, homophobe, rascist, and frankly, an easily manipulated moronic coward.  I have no interest in the opinions of intolerant bigots.  My a$$ is and will remain intolerant to intolerance.

 

[MsDesmond1995]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 7:02pm

This kind of attitude and uncensored behavior is the EXACT reason why La LuPone has been my spirit animal for the 25 years I have known of her existence. It has literally been the best thing on the internet this week. She isn't saying anything we all haven't said either in private conversation or to ourselves. Brava, Patti! You never cease to endear yourself to me!

Updated On: 5/20/17 at 07:02 PM

[binau]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 7:14pm

icecreambenjamin said: "Liza's Headband said: "I have zero issue with LuPones comments and agree with them. That being said, I would hope you'd all offer the same support of free speech to those conservative/republican entertainers out there (a small number exist).  I have no tolerance for hypocrisy and double standards -- so let's hope you all afford the same allowance to entertainers of an opposing political view, as infuriating as many may find it. Including myself. 

I will not respect nor will I support anyone who pledges their allegiance to Trump.  By giving your support to such a vile human being, you are telling me that you are a complete and total xenophobe, homophobe, rascist, and frankly, an easily manipulated moronic coward.  I have no interest in the opinions of intolerant bigots.  My a$$ is and will remain intolerant to intolerance.

 

 

"

 

I actually wonder if it is attitudes and responses like this that contributed to the election outcome. When you want to change attitudes do you think it will be more effective to carefully listen to what people say and then attempt to unemotionally portray a counter argument or do you think it'd be better to shout them down as a bigot or (as so many people in the ultra left do these days) attempt to actually silence the discussion (which I find ironically fascist).

It's hard because many people don't seem to be willing to actually listen to others or new ideas (e.g., Trump is among the worst offenders for this, or look at the primary debate on this forum where instead of actually listening, acknowledging and discussing flaws in Hillary some people proceeded to engage in the most childish and unintellectual name calling that was ageist and nationalist, and also accuse people who were (it seems) rightly critical of Hillary (vs Bernie) as being sexist.

Calling people bigots and then leaving at that will not change attitudes or voting behaviour. We do need to genuinely listen to others and engage in a dialogue. 

Love that Patti speaks her mind and I wonder what Ebersole thinks about this. When asked about the election in the past she has deflected. 

[adamgreer]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 7:21pm

qolbinau said: "icecreambenjamin said: "Liza's Headband said: "I have zero issue with LuPones comments and agree with them. That being said, I would hope you'd all offer the same support of free speech to those conservative/republican entertainers out there (a small number exist).  I have no tolerance for hypocrisy and double standards -- so let's hope you all afford the same allowance to entertainers of an opposing political view, as infuriating as many may find it. Including myself. 

I will not respect nor will I support anyone who pledges their allegiance to Trump.  By giving your support to such a vile human being, you are telling me that you are a complete and total xenophobe, homophobe, rascist, and frankly, an easily manipulated moronic coward.  I have no interest in the opinions of intolerant bigots.  My a$$ is and will remain intolerant to intolerance.

 

 

"

 

I actually wonder if it is attitudes and responses like this that contributed to the election outcome. When you want to change attitudes do you think it will be more effective to carefully listen to what people say and then attempt to unemotionally portray a counter argument or do you think it'd be better to shout them down as a bigot or (as so many people in the ultra left do these days) attempt to actually silence the discussion (which I find ironically fascist).

It's hard because many people don't seem to be willing to actually listen to others or new ideas (e.g., Trump is among the worst offenders for this, or look at the primary debate on this forum where instead of actually listening, acknowledging and discussing flaws in Hillary some people proceeded to engage in the most childish and unintellectual name calling that was ageist and nationalist, and also accuse people who were (it seems) rightly critical of Hillary (vs Bernie) as being sexist.

Calling people bigots and then leaving at that will not change attitudes or voting behaviour. We do need to genuinely listen to others and engage in a dialogue. 

Love that Patti speaks her mind and I wonder what Ebersole thinks about this. When asked about the election in the past she has deflected. 

You of all people should not talk about listening and then offering unemotional rebuttals. Or do you want me to find some of the old Bernie/ Hillary threads you used to post in? 

[MsDesmond1995]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 7:22pm

qolbinau said: "
Love that Patti speaks her mind and I wonder what Ebersole thinks about this. When asked about the election in the past she has deflected. "

I wouldn't think that she would care either way. Patti and Christine are polar opposite personalities. Patti is bold and brash and Christine is much more demure and laid back. You can definitely tell at the stage door. Christine usually stays subdued while signing and yet still ever so graceful. Patti, on the other hand is always raucous and you never know what she'll say or do. Nothing wrong with either...just totally difference personalities. 

 

Updated On: 5/20/17 at 07:22 PM

[icecreambenjamin]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 7:28pm

I tried to listen to his supporters and tried to change their opinions, but I have come to learn that his supporters are some of the worst people out there.  Stubborn, egotistical, and cowardly, much like the candidate that they voted for.  You try to explain why what he's doing is detrimental to America and you get called a feminazi, tranny, race mixing, muslim, snowflake.  There's no helping or trying to educate people with that much hate in them, but you can at least keep them out of power.  How Donald Trump was elected president is till a bit of a mystery to me considering that his unqualified ass wasn't even chosen by the American people.

I'm sorry, but this isn't a time to be sweet and understanding to Trump supporters.  This is a time to fight for the rights of you, your friends, your family, and your neighbors whether they know they need helping or not.  This is not time for pleasant discussion.  This is a time for heated battles.

[binau]

Posted: 5/20/17 at 7:40pm

adamgreer said: "qolbinau said: "icecreambenjamin said: "Liza's Headband said: "I have zero issue with LuPones comments and agree with them. That being said, I would hope you'd all offer the same support of free speech to those conservative/republican entertainers out there (a small number exist).  I have no tolerance for hypocrisy and double standards -- so let's hope you all afford the same allowance to entertainers of an opposing political view, as infuriating as many may find it. Including myself. 

I will not respect nor will I support anyone who pledges their allegiance to Trump.  By giving your support to such a vile human being, you are telling me that you are a complete and total xenophobe, homophobe, rascist, and frankly, an easily manipulated moronic coward.  I have no interest in the opinions of intolerant bigots.  My a$$ is and will remain intolerant to intolerance.

 

 

"

 

I actually wonder if it is attitudes and responses like this that contributed to the election outcome. When you want to change attitudes do you think it will be more effective to carefully listen to what people say and then attempt to unemotionally portray a counter argument or do you think it'd be better to shout them down as a bigot or (as so many people in the ultra left do these days) attempt to actually silence the discussion (which I find ironically fascist).

It's hard because many people don't seem to be willing to actually listen to others or new ideas (e.g., Trump is among the worst offenders for this, or look at the primary debate on this forum where instead of actually listening, acknowledging and discussing flaws in Hillary some people proceeded to engage in the most childish and unintellectual name calling that was ageist and nationalist, and also accuse people who were (it seems) rightly critical of Hillary (vs Bernie) as being sexist.

Calling people bigots and then leaving at that will not change attitudes or voting behaviour. We do need to genuinely listen to others and engage in a dialogue. 

Love that Patti speaks her mind and I wonder what Ebersole thinks about this. When asked about the election in the past she has deflected. 

You of all people should not talk about listening and then offering unemotional rebuttals. Or do you want me to find some of the old Bernie/ Hillary threads you used to post in? 

 

"

Yes I actually do - I took pride in almost never resulting to name calling or talking about irrelevant factors (e.g., nationality, age etc.) despite the ridiculous posts by the likes of PalJoey in particular. I think towards the end of it I might have started to question some of the intellectual capability and education of some of the posters on this forum when it became clear that it was very difficult to actually have a conversation with some of them. And maybe you can find an occasional slip up. But in general, I took pride in not resorting to irrelevant personal attacks and actually trying to discuss the issues at hand (e.g., Hillary hiding her speeches that later were leaked and did her no favours; Hillary's voting record on issues such as the Iraq War and recently flip flopping on many of the major issues such as gay marriage and trade policies; polling results showing during the primary that Hillary might actually lose to Trump and that Bernie was the best choice;  the general perception of not supporting the interests of working families based on many of the donation sources, her Wall Street speeches and changed voting record as criticised by Elizabeth Warren; pointing out that Bernie's policies are actually not 'pie in the sky' by world standards and have shown to be effective in many other parts of the world).

The response of many posters to these ideas was very disappointing. I wonder where we would be right now if Bernie slip through - Patti might never have had to have made this comment (maybe she would, but maybe she wouldn't). The one thing we can be sure was that Hillary was not the right nominee though. 

Updated On: 5/20/17 at 07:40 PM