Live from the Lincoln Center Discussion Thread — Page 10
#227
Posted: 8/20/10 at 8:48am
I was discussing the production with a friend yesterday and we were both marveling at what a lovely and powerful moment the Honey Bun reprise is. Other than a community production when I was very young, the current revival is the only production of South Pacific that I've seen so I was wondering if anybody knows if this is the way the Honey Bun reprise is normally staged or if this was an original idea?
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#228
Posted: 8/20/10 at 9:03am
Samonsky's mumbling/moaning creeped me out. I thought I was listening to Julia Sweeney's 'Pat' character from SNL.
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#229
Posted: 8/20/10 at 9:12am
For you MST3K fans:
Doesn't Samonsky remind you of Richard Kiel in HUMAN DUPLICATORS?
Doesn't Samonsky remind you of Richard Kiel in HUMAN DUPLICATORS?
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#230
Posted: 8/20/10 at 10:57am
I was very disappointed in Samonsky's acting. Lovely voice, beautiful really, but the difference is, when he sings you don't see any mechanics. He's got a beautiful instrument and knows how to use it. His acting showed me none of that. I could see all the technique he was using to manufacture a portrayal. When he needed to be intense he was almost hyperventilating to produce an effect. When the best perform you never see the mechanics or the technique.
#231
Posted: 8/20/10 at 11:04am
I was discussing the production with a friend yesterday and we were both marveling at what a lovely and powerful moment the Honey Bun reprise is.
That part always gets to me. I mentioned earlier that the uncertainty of it is what gets me. We're watching characters we learned to care for over the course of the show march off to war. We know Nellie and Emile get their happily ever after but what about the others?
Doesn't Samonsky remind you of Richard Kiel in HUMAN DUPLICATORS?
I don't see the resemblance between Andrew and Jaws from James Bond
That part always gets to me. I mentioned earlier that the uncertainty of it is what gets me. We're watching characters we learned to care for over the course of the show march off to war. We know Nellie and Emile get their happily ever after but what about the others?
Doesn't Samonsky remind you of Richard Kiel in HUMAN DUPLICATORS?
I don't see the resemblance between Andrew and Jaws from James Bond
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#232
Posted: 8/20/10 at 12:20pm
Madbrian, I'm not sure if O'Hara coming across as older was just on screen- I was at the taping and thought to myself that she came across as older than she did the last time I saw the role. Obviously she *is* older, but I was surprised it came across that way.
And I'm sorry that the entr'acte wasn't shown/heard fully (or at least that's what it seems like from people's posts?) It was truly phenomenal- the orchestra put more into it than I have ever seen them do before. A few of the orchestra members were dancing around the pit as they played, and the audience ate it up!
And I'm sorry that the entr'acte wasn't shown/heard fully (or at least that's what it seems like from people's posts?) It was truly phenomenal- the orchestra put more into it than I have ever seen them do before. A few of the orchestra members were dancing around the pit as they played, and the audience ate it up!
#233
Posted: 8/20/10 at 12:28pm
They showed the second half of the Entr'Acte. Alan Alda was gabbing through the first part of it and you could hear it in the background. They didn't switch to the orchestra until after the moment when they all stand up for "Gonna Wash That Man".
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#234
Posted: 8/20/10 at 12:45pm
"I don't see the resemblance between Andrew and Jaws from James Bond"
See the clips of HUMAN DUPLICATORS posted on youtube, and you will.
See the clips of HUMAN DUPLICATORS posted on youtube, and you will.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick
My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/
#235
Posted: 8/20/10 at 1:06pm
Several days later and I'm still impressed with how good this production was from the acting, singing, staging, to direction.
I truly regret not seeing it at Lincoln Center. I assumed it was a decent production, but thought it would be similar to the Mitzi Gaynor movie, which didn't cut it for me, or amateur productions which didn't wow me either.
This production was special though, and everything just clicked. Loretta Ables Sayre was a definitive Bloody Mary. I've seen productions where the character was almost played as a joke, but Sayre brought a perfect underlying intensity and desperation to the role. I used to hate Happy Talk, but now, at last, I see the point of it.
I hope this comes out on video, I think I need to have it.
I truly regret not seeing it at Lincoln Center. I assumed it was a decent production, but thought it would be similar to the Mitzi Gaynor movie, which didn't cut it for me, or amateur productions which didn't wow me either.
This production was special though, and everything just clicked. Loretta Ables Sayre was a definitive Bloody Mary. I've seen productions where the character was almost played as a joke, but Sayre brought a perfect underlying intensity and desperation to the role. I used to hate Happy Talk, but now, at last, I see the point of it.
I hope this comes out on video, I think I need to have it.
#236
Posted: 8/20/10 at 1:19pm
To answer your question, backwoodsbarbie, no. That reprise of "Honey Bun" is not initially in the script. It was added by Sher and company. There are other minor additions to the script (Nellie's "Colored." line at the end of Act 1 as well as Emile's "Mangez, Nellie." and a few other lines for the sailors), with the three largest inclusions being "My Girl Back Home", the scene between Cable and Nellie about interracial couples in Act 2 and the "Honey Bun" reprise.
"Sing the words, Patti!!!!" Stephen Sondheim to Patti LuPone.
#237
Posted: 8/20/10 at 1:27pm
I remember the last line (Emile to Nellie) from the licensed version as "Mange, Nellie. Mange maintenant." The second part of that line seems to be gone now. I wonder why.
Updated On: 8/20/10 at 01:27 PM
#238
Posted: 8/20/10 at 1:31pm
No, the Honey Bun reprise is in the script. It's just that it's not dramatic like the revival. It's orchestrated the way the first Honey Bun is, happy etc.
#239
Posted: 8/20/10 at 2:25pm
I have the original script and there's no "Honey Bun" reprise. The final line "Move out" is said and the soldiers go off with the nurses waving. Also, my script has no "Mangez, Nellie." Perhaps both were added to the licensed version some time since.
"Sing the words, Patti!!!!" Stephen Sondheim to Patti LuPone.
#240
Posted: 8/20/10 at 3:42pm
OMG that is too funny Pat from SNL. You know you got a damn good point there. Sorry but that has me hysterical.
MadBrian you pegged this guy to a tee. I am crying because I did not want to be outright insulting but he is a bit of a whiner.
MadBrian you pegged this guy to a tee. I am crying because I did not want to be outright insulting but he is a bit of a whiner.
Updated On: 8/20/10 at 03:42 PM
#241
Posted: 8/20/10 at 3:42pm
Danny Burstein reminded me a bit of Bert Lahr (Note to some of the youth on the board, that would be the Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of Oz and a popular Broadway performer in his time).
Mr. Somonsky reminded me of a cross between Greg Edelman's Prince in the Into the Woods revival and Jeff Goldblum (in anything he is in), especially when he was talking about his Mom. A bit nebbishy, a bit wooden. But I thought he didn't totally suck. Far from it. Man, if he read the negative things people were saying about him on these boards................buy. that. man. a. drink.
The finale reminded me greatly of productions of Cabaret I've seen where the cast does a reprise of Wilkommen slowly and in slow motion movement and funeral marchesque under low lighting. Always exactly.
Considering I am not a huge fan of the show.......it was still a good representation.
Mr. Somonsky reminded me of a cross between Greg Edelman's Prince in the Into the Woods revival and Jeff Goldblum (in anything he is in), especially when he was talking about his Mom. A bit nebbishy, a bit wooden. But I thought he didn't totally suck. Far from it. Man, if he read the negative things people were saying about him on these boards................buy. that. man. a. drink.
The finale reminded me greatly of productions of Cabaret I've seen where the cast does a reprise of Wilkommen slowly and in slow motion movement and funeral marchesque under low lighting. Always exactly.
Considering I am not a huge fan of the show.......it was still a good representation.
#242
Posted: 8/20/10 at 5:06pm
Samonsky's speech patterns reminded me of Eric on True Blood.
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#243
Posted: 8/20/10 at 5:17pm
Tsao5, I was wondering if I was the only one who was reminded of Bert Lahr! I think Danny would be a great cowardly lion. I thought he was wonderful as Billis. A very loveable and sweet portrayal of the character.
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#244
Posted: 8/20/10 at 5:52pm
I also thought Danny Burstein was playing the role like Bert Lahr!
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#245
Posted: 8/20/10 at 5:58pm
Yes, Cable's speech patterns were somewhat like Eric the Viking but Eric is a dead Viking who is a little long in the tooth. Cable is suppose to be a young man from Philadelphia. I still go with Pat from SNL. He was better on the telecast.
#246
Posted: 8/20/10 at 9:47pm
I was pleasantly surprised at the staging of Happy Talk. It's such an upbeat and positive-sounding song, but is was played to show Bloody Mary's desperation and to foreshadow that Cable and Liat's passion was doomed. It reminded me of "Everything's Coming Up Roses." I loved it.
#247
Posted: 8/20/10 at 10:30pm
Do you think they'll release it on dvd? Did they ever release Light in the Piazza when PBS did that?
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#248
Posted: 8/21/10 at 1:31am
Do you think they'll release it on dvd? Did they ever release Light in the Piazza when PBS did that?
No and no
No and no
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#249
Posted: 8/21/10 at 2:43am
And surprisingly enough nobody has posted it on the web. Anywhere.
http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=972787#3631451
http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=963561#3533883
http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=955158#3440952
http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=954269#3427915
http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=955012#3441622
http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=954344#3428699
#250
Posted: 8/21/10 at 3:35am
Yeah it's really depressing...
I loved every second of it and want to keep it forever.
I loved every second of it and want to keep it forever.
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