MEAN GIRLS To Welcome Social Media Star Cameron Dallas For Four Week Run- Page 3

[IAMREADING]

Posted: 12/23/19 at 11:07pm

I really recommend his Netflix series "Chasing Cameron." It starts off like a nauseating type of docuseries about an influencer or something, but quickly transitions into something more. He is part of a tour of sorts "magcon" where they ONLY do fan meet and greets, there is no performance or concert that people are buying tickets for. It is just to take a photo with Cameron, etc. Cameron is like the leader of the squad. Another member of the squad complains early in the first episode I believe that he isn't getting his "per diem" and there are a lot of issues with the crew and cast getting paid, some even quit. Furthermore, they begin canceling shows offering NO refunds when people are already inside of the venue. Just a mess, and almost similar to a scam. 

[haterobics]

Posted: 12/23/19 at 11:55pm

Brooks0214 said: "I am beyond upset about this. This is absolute awful and not fair to people who work their asses off and have actual talent."

Who would all be unemployed if they don't find a way to get more butts in seats...

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 6:27am

I saw the show last night. Here are my thoughts:

 

Everyone was in, all leads, etc. 

Finally saw Renee Rapp and WOW she's fantastic as Regina! Kate Rockwell continues to blow me away with her comedic timing-just perfect. Erika H. was amazing and was that a new wig I saw in act 2? 

Cameron Dallas. He spoke like Kyle. Was a little better in the scene just before "Stupid With Love"-the cutoff sounded more natural. His voice does need more work but I'm cutting him slack because it's his first show. I think he can definitely improve and be good by the end of the week because act 2 was better than act 1 (More Is Better was great!). People are judging him SO MUCH and it's so unfair. He wouldn't have been cast without a fair audition. I'm guessing creatives like Tina Fey were in the room when he auditioned, so it's totally unfair what people are saying, people who haven't even SEEN him!! All he's asking is to be given a chance. He deserves one. 

[inmyownlittlecorner]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 9:23am

This isn’t going to bring in very many people. If you go up to a normal 15/16 year old or even someone in their early 20’s, they can list off tons of reasons no to like him. This was a guy who got into controversy after controversy for racism and homophobia and then faded into obscurity. No one really cares about him anymore besides a small group of ‘stans’ on Twitter.

I’m never the kind of person who thinks star casting is inherently evil. I loved Joe Sugg in Waitress, I thought it was a perfect role for him and I hope he does more West End roles. But Joe had an appeal for Waitress, he was well known for being on Strictly Come Dancing. Cameron doesn’t have that. This isn’t going to end well for Mean Girls unless he’s paying THEM to do this role lol.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 9:42am

inmyownlittlecorner said: "This isn’t going to bring in very many people. If you go up to a normal 15/16 year old or even someone in their early 20’s, they can list off tons of reasons no to like him. This was a guy who got into controversy after controversy for racism and homophobia and then faded into obscurity. No one really cares about him anymore besides a small group of ‘stans’ on Twitter.

I’m never the kind of person who thinks star casting is inherently evil. I loved Joe Sugg in Waitress, I thought it was a perfect role for him and I hope he does more West End roles. But Joe had an appeal for Waitress, he was well known for being on Strictly Come Dancing. Cameron doesn’t have that. This isn’t going to end well for Mean Girls unless he’s paying THEM to do this role lol."

I don't know about that...looking ahead to just a weekend matinee performance I can see that it is very well sold. I'd say don't judge quite yet. Most of the people who are seeing the show go for the name, and because they might have seen the Thanksgiving performances. There are many factors working into this that I don't see the show closing quite yet; it might also depend on who they're bringing in to play Cady. 

[pointilismlight]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 9:52am

I was also there last night and agree. I was pleasantly surprised by how good Cameron was especially given it is his first performance. His vocals need some work but I think he was really nervous. Given it was his first performance I imagine he will only get better over the course of the next few shows. And also Renee’s was amazing! Her voice is unbelievable! There were a bunch of girls around me who were clearly there to see him so I do think he’s selling tickets. 

[Kad]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 10:12am

magictodo123 said: " All he's asking is to be given a chance. He deserves one."

I'd argue that the hundreds of capable performers who do this professionally and wouldn't need to be graded on a curve deserved more of a chance but sure. 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 10:38am

magictodo123 said: "He wouldn't have been cast without a fair audition."

Cameron didn’t have to audition. He was offered the job.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 10:43am

Call_me_jorge said: "magictodo123 said: "He wouldn't have been cast without a fair audition."

Cameron didn’t have to audition. He was offered the job."

 

I would wager that every single person auditioned for a role. Please find me where it says that he was just offered the role. 

[pointilismlight]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 10:48am

He said at the stage door that he flew to NY last year and auditioned.

[Kad]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 11:08am

It's not like he was waiting along with dozens and dozens of other guys at the Equity Principal Audition at some studio in midtown (I would wager he was not Equity before this). He had a private appointment, initiated by either the producers/casting or his representation, with the intent of casting him and just making sure he was at least competent enough to do so. 

Updated On: 1/15/20 at 11:08 AM

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 11:26am

The job was probably his before he walked into the audition room unless he failed to demonstrate he met basic competency for the role. From reports last night, it sounds like he at least has that.

This reminds of when Al Roker was cast in Waitress. That seemed like the most mind-boggling decision to me, but those that saw him in the show, said he was actually endearing. This actually makes more sense than that because I’m not sure Roker’s name sold many tickets, but I’m guessing Dallas’s will.

As far as Dallas’s history of racism and homophobia, I’m unaware.

At the end of the day, MG is just trying to stay afloat. If casting CD helps them do that, then they made the right decision.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 11:36am

Kad said: "It's not like he was waiting along with dozens and dozens of other guys at the Equity Principal Audition at some studio in midtown (I would wager he was not Equity before this). He had a private appointment, initiated by either the producers/castingor his representation, with the intent of casting him and just making sure he was at least competent enough to do so."

I didn't realize you worked so closely with casting directors and everyone else involved with the production! 

Honestly? I'm tired of this. He most likely auditioned and the creatives were in the room. He got the part by auditioning. No, I'm not claiming to have any personal connections to the show, but I do know every single actor normally goes through the same audition process. Not being a high profile actor, he most likely went this route. If he was a big star he might have been offered the role, but I highly, highly doubt that's how it happened in this case. 

[Kad]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 11:50am

magictodo123 said: "Kad said: "It's not like he was waiting along with dozens and dozens of other guys at the Equity Principal Audition at some studio in midtown (I would wager he was not Equity before this). He had a private appointment, initiated by either the producers/castingor his representation, with the intent of casting him and just making sure he was at least competent enough to do so."

I didn't realize you worked so closely with casting directors and everyone else involved with the production!

Honestly? I'm tired of this. He most likely auditioned and the creatives were in the room. He got the part by auditioning. No, I'm not claiming to have any personal connections to the show, but I do know every single actor normally goes through the same audition process. Not being a high profile actor, he most likely went this route. If he was a big star he might have been offered the role, but I highly, highly doubt that's how it happened in this case."

I do work in the industry. I am speaking from professional experience and firsthand knowledge shared by colleagues. 

Not everyone on this board is just a fan. And there is a lot- a lot- that fans do not and will never know about the industry and the shows or actors they love, nor should they. 

 

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 11:52am

magictodo123 said: "Kad said: "It's not like he was waiting along with dozens and dozens of other guys at the Equity Principal Audition at some studio in midtown (I would wager he was not Equity before this). He had a private appointment, initiated by either the producers/castingor his representation, with the intent of casting him and just making sure he was at least competent enough to do so."

I didn't realize you worked so closely with casting directors and everyone else involved with the production!

Honestly? I'm tired of this. He most likely auditioned and the creatives were in the room. He got the part by auditioning. No, I'm not claiming to have any personal connections to the show, but I do know every single actor normally goes through the same audition process. Not being a high profile actor, he most likely went this route. If he was a big star he might have been offered the role, but I highly, highly doubt that's how it happened in this case."

Are YOU involved in the production? You have no idea which route he took. None of this matters, but don't call someone else out when you know just as little as him.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 12:00pm

HenryTDobson said: "magictodo123 said: "Kad said: "It's not like he was waiting along with dozens and dozens of other guys at the Equity Principal Audition at some studio in midtown (I would wager he was not Equity before this). He had a private appointment, initiated by either the producers/castingor his representation, with the intent of casting him and just making sure he was at least competent enough to do so."

I didn't realize you worked so closely with casting directors and everyone else involved with the production!

Honestly? I'm tired of this. He most likely auditioned and the creatives were in the room. He got the part by auditioning. No, I'm not claiming to have any personal connections to the show, but I do know every single actor normally goes through the same audition process. Not being a high profile actor, he most likely went this route. If he was a big star he might have been offered the role, but I highly, highly doubt that's how it happened in this case."

Are YOU involved in the production? You have no idea which route he took. None of this matters, but don't call someone else out when you know just as little as him."

If you read my post, you'll see that I clearly state that I do not have a personal connection to the show. Did you bother to read that? I could say the same to everyone else who is telling me the route he took when they might work in the industry, but unless they work on this SPECIFIC production, they don't know. I am WELL aware of the fact that there is a lot the public doesn't know about the industry. You calling ME out does absolutely nothing either....you do realize that, right? 

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 12:02pm

magictodo123 said: "HenryTDobson said: "magictodo123 said: "Kad said: "It's not like he was waiting along with dozens and dozens of other guys at the Equity Principal Audition at some studio in midtown (I would wager he was not Equity before this). He had a private appointment, initiated by either the producers/castingor his representation, with the intent of casting him and just making sure he was at least competent enough to do so."

I didn't realize you worked so closely with casting directors and everyone else involved with the production!

Honestly? I'm tired of this. He most likely auditioned and the creatives were in the room. He got the part by auditioning. No, I'm not claiming to have any personal connections to the show, but I do know every single actor normally goes through the same audition process. Not being a high profile actor, he most likely went this route. If he was a big star he might have been offered the role, but I highly, highly doubt that's how it happened in this case."

Are YOU involved in the production? You have no idea which route he took. None of this matters, but don't call someone else out when you know just as little as him."

If you read my post, you'll see that I clearly state that I do not have a personal connection to the show. Did you bother to read that? I could say the same to everyone else who is telling me the route he took when they might work in the industry, but unless they work on this SPECIFIC production, they don't know. I am WELL aware of the fact that there is a lot the public doesn't know about the industry. You calling ME out does absolutely nothing either....you do realize that, right?"

Great, glad we got that cleared up. Have a good day!

[Kad]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 12:05pm

Yes, getting totally upset over the notion that Cameron Dallas was asked to privately audition with the intent of giving him the role- a common industry practice- is very reasonable and mature. 

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 12:05pm

this makes me think of Mariah Rose Faiths journey to playing Regina on tour. She was discovered on YouTube, yes. But then she said she went through many rounds of auditions before she was cast. If mean girls did that for her, I see no reason why Cameron would have been any different.

[inmyownlittlecorner]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 12:20pm

magictodo123 said: "this makes me think of Mariah Rose Faiths journey to playing Regina on tour. She was discovered on YouTube, yes. But then she said she went through many rounds of auditions before she was cast. If mean girls did that for her, I see no reason why Cameron would have been any different."

Mariah was famous for being in Starkid productions, that’s why she started her YouTube channel.  She is a musical theatre performer first and her channel wasn’t entertainment content, it was covers. I feel like the behind the scenes auditions for her were VASTLY different that what Cameron did. I don’t know, just a hunch 

[superiska123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 1:29pm

Not to be mean, but I highly doubt Cameron Dallas would be better at acting and singing than a room full of professional actors... Not saying he isn't doing a good job (as I haven't seen him), but I think it's quite obvious his celebrity status is the main reason he was cast.

Mariah Rose Faith, while extremely talented, isn't at all a household name and it makes sense that she'd have to audition.

[superiska123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 2:04pm

Jordin Sparks actually said in an interview that she was asked to do the role and I highly doubt Jason Mraz and Jeremy Jordan had to audition. In any case, I have no doubt Cameron had to prove he has at least basic acting and singing skills, but I find it extremely unlikely that he had to go through an actual audition.

edit: Not to mention Colleen Ballinger and Todrick, (who I loved in the show) who also spoke about being asked to do the show.

Updated On: 1/15/20 at 02:04 PM

[magictodo123]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 10:24pm

Okay. It doesn’t matter how he got he job. Point is he did, and people should just be quiet about how he is unless they actually see him in the role. You can’t judge someone in a role until you see them. That’s all.

[LuPita2]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 10:31pm

If it does not matter how he got the job, I don't think you would be fighting with people all day about he.... got the job.

That’s all.

Sure, Jan. 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 1/15/20 at 11:15pm

For what it’s worth, and for those who care, they changed the marquee a little. The top part just says “mean girls” without the image of the girls. I think that’s new right?