NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion- Page 77

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:10am

Of course so. Now that Julia dramaturged it it's as good as her Pulitzer Worthy unused Bombshell book.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:11am

When Hilty saw everyone she knew standing behind her during the song I think it was a metaphor and she actually died on stage and that was her going to the light like when Patrick Swayze saw the alien ghosts and said "Molly, I see dead people" and then he disappeared into the ball of light and went to heaven or wherever he went to.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:15am

Also something Smash does that's commendable - they don't shy away from interracial couplings.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:16am

When Hilty saw everyone she knew standing behind her during the song I think it was a metaphor and she actually died on stage and that was her going to the light like when Patrick Swayze saw the alien ghosts and said "Molly, I see dead people" and then he disappeared into the ball of light and went to heaven or wherever he went to.

That would explain why Karen looked so happy.

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:19am

Tom and Kyle are different races?
Oh, Julia and, what is his name?

They should kill off Jimmy in a NY Theatre Workshop RENT type plot.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:19am

Maybe Karen is like Bruce Willis and has been dead this whole time.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:20am

CurtainPully, Tom used to go with Sam the Wretched. That was a GAY interracial coupling!



Updated On: 4/22/13 at 12:20 AM

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:27am

I remember that, And Karen an Ivy both went that way too.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:33am

There's some great Karen/Ivy lesbianic fan fiction on the internet for anyone with a strong stomach.

[ucjrdude902]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 11:40am

#38 on the Pop Charts, #116 on the regular charts on itunes.

[beensince1987]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 11:44am

Also it was odd that only Christian was taking a bow on stage with the cast and no other creative team was there.

Did Eileen tell others not to take a bow on opening night?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 11:47am

I no longer thing it's going to be Jeremy Julie Jordan who dies but rather Kyle. Since unlike Jeremy who will be forced into a vow of Zen passivism by Karen, Kyle will be the only one with the cojones to step up to Adam. Then Hit List will win the Pulitzer and next season Debbie will sue the Kyle estate for royalties because she will claim she wrote the book for Hit List and Tom will hate her for suing his dead latest-almost-boyfriend.

[beensince1987]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 12:03pm

^The show could be airing 5 days a week in the afternoon

Updated On: 4/22/13 at 12:03 PM

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 1:39pm

And Karen used to be engaged(?) to Dev. That was an interracial interspecies couple!

I'm shocked to see that no one has commented on the fact that Ivy was reading the All That Chat messageboard rather than this beloved one.

I really enjoyed this episode and I'm sure like everyone else it was because it was heavily Ivy-centric and focusing all on BOMBSHELL. Ivy's version of "Don't Forget Me" almost had me in tears. I can't believe this wasn't on the fake cast recording.

A little confused about GATSBY now though. I thought Julia wanted to make it into a musical but now she's talking about being a playwright and producing it at Collins' theatre. Am I just misremembering?

And ugh Leo. Thankfully he got a haircut but YUCK!

[willep]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 1:56pm

Haha, yeah I noticed she was reading ATC. Forgot about it, though.

[mc1227]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 2:32pm

I was happy to see the emphasis on Bombshell and Hilty. IMO, that has been the biggest mistake that was made in this years show. JJ looks like he's smelling cooked onions in every scene he is in and McPhee only seems alive in scenes with Hilty. Also enjoyed the Tom & Julia storyline but unfortunately it's too little too late for this show.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 2:57pm

And Karen used to be engaged(?) to Dev. That was an interracial interspecies couple!

This line made me literally el oh el.

A little confused about GATSBY now though. I thought Julia wanted to make it into a musical but now she's talking about being a playwright and producing it at Collins' theatre. Am I just misremembering?

No, I think you have it right. She did want Tom to musicalize it with her, but since he won't and she's got the in with Collins (not to mention that first draft of Bombshell has confirmed she is now a PLAYWRIGHT) she'll turn it into a play. I guess it's possible she could find a new composer to work with, but we probably would have already heard about that if she were. It would be some Broadway semi-star brought on to play a new composer that will threaten Julia and Tom's longstanding collaboration for about an episode, maybe two.

But I think she's just writing a play.

[sparepart973]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 3:07pm

I would love it if they release Ivy's DON'T FORGET ME on iTunes. Does anyone know if this will happen?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 3:08pm

Why would they look here for horrible, dispirting, undermining posts about Ivy? Of course they would look at That's Ann Miner!

[Ham3]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 4:33pm

There's already been a play made from Gatsby on Broadway. Written by Owen Davis, drected by George Cukor, with Florence Eldridge as Daisy. Ran for 112 performances at the Ambassador in 1926.

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 4:36pm

Those people don't exist in SMASHLAND!

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 4:54pm

One of the most emphatic examples of the show's amateurish writing is how they constantly introduce an element to the narrative and in that same episode, that element becomes a central part of the story. So even though we'd never heard about Julia and Tom talking about THE GREAT GATSBY, in this episode we get one scene with Julia looking at an old copy of the novel and immediately becoming obsessed with the idea of doing the show, and even going as far as telling Tom that they're going to announce it in the opening party. Of course, she listed a bunch of reasons why she wanted to musicalize the novel, but then at the end it's stated that she'll just write it as a play.

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 5:38pm

Where are our Bombshell and Hit List shills, then?

[Plexsis]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 11:06pm

Just FYI: Marc Shaiman posted a free download of Hilty's "Don't Forget Me" on his facebook.

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 4/22/13 at 11:20pm

I don't think Julia's "play" is Gatsby, but something else completely different, unless I missed something.