Slave Play. Not a movie. A play. - Page 2
Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Huss417
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#25Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 9:16am
Broadway Flash said: "He’ll make sure toput music in his next play to regain the title"
WHAT?????? Do you just type things for the sake of typing?
"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter."
Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
#26Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 9:26am
Huss417 said: "Broadway Flash said: "He’ll make sure toput music in his next play to regain the title"
WHAT?????? Do you just type things for the sake of typing?"
I just do not know what goes on in Flash's head! They are COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL!
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henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#27Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 10:13am
I love Slave Play. Unapologetically. I find great meaning in it. Unapologetically. I laughed a lot as a white audience member. Unapologetically.
It's a play about intimacy and need, patriarchal and racist baggage, the way we internalize them and navigating all of the above. If some don't find meaning in the themes; in the questions the play raises about sex and intimacy, about boundaries and the consequences of unwillingness to transcend them and the consequences of transcending them. Fine. I do. And I admire the play for bravely going there with great feeling and humor and love.
#28Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 10:50am
I hated the play when I saw it pre-pandemic. Pretentious beyond belief. I also find Jeremy O. Harris to be absolutely unbearable.
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uncamark
Stand-by Joined: 5/16/05
#29Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 10:57am
bwayphreak234 said: "I hated the play when I saw it pre-pandemic. Pretentious beyond belief. I also find Jeremy O. Harris to be absolutely unbearable."
And it should be pointed out that it wasn't just white people who hated the show--a lot of Black people found the show insulting.
And anyone who goes to the Tonys during the late period of the pandemic wearing an African warrior mask instead of a KN95--you're damn right he's a showboater.
#30Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 11:30am
And it should be pointed it out that lots of whites and lots of blacks loved it
DaveyG
Broadway Star Joined: 8/11/05
#31Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 12:18pm
bwayphreak234 said: "I hated the play when I saw it pre-pandemic. Pretentious beyond belief. I also find Jeremy O. Harris to be absolutely unbearable."
Agreed. I cannot stand JOH or this play.
#32Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 12:26pm
I'll be curious to see how Slave Play is received in London. I was very underwhelmed by it here and also found it went from a strong first act, to a didactic slog of a second, to a straightforward and lackluster third. It didn't help that, for me, it was tackling similar themes to Fairview and Strange Loop, both of which were in my recent memory and both of which I found to be substantially superior in every conceivable way- funnier, more surprising, more boundary-pushing, and more incisive and insightful. Slave Play felt like the grad school work it actually is.
Meanwhile, JOH has managed to parlay a very meager and extremely uneven body of work into a whole career and seems to have little interest in actually writing anymore. He seems better suited to this socialite/producer thing.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#33Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 12:54pm
No way. slave play is much funnier than strange loop. There was a certain pg13 quality to strange loop which I hated. And I thought slave play was much more serious and important too. STRANGE LOOP is the one that felt kiddie
#34Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 1:35pm
Okay.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Huss417
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#35Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 1:39pm
Broadway Flash said: "No way. slave play is muchfunnier than strange loop. There was a certain pg13 quality to strange loop which I hated. And I thought slave play was much more serious and important too. STRANGE LOOP is the one that felt kiddie"
Strange Loop = Kiddie? Again are you typing for the sake of typing?
"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter."
Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
#36Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 1:57pm
Huss417 said: "Broadway Flash said: "No way. slave play is muchfunnier than strange loop. There was a certain pg13 quality to strange loop which I hated. And I thought slave play was much more serious and important too. STRANGE LOOP is the one that felt kiddie"
Strange Loop = Kiddie? Again are you typing for the sake of typing?"
*takes off my earrings*
How DARE you. While not a commercial success, A STRANGE LOOP has been recognized by many professional bodies (including the Tonys, Oliviers, and Pulitzer) as a groundbreaking work of drama that, in its specificity hides very universal themes that audience members of all stripes can take away - whether that be religious trauma, poor parental relationships, struggling with race and/or sexuality, self-image, personal relationships to art, and loneliness.
Surely an entire scene and song about Usher’s willingness to seek out even passing affection at any cost results in an unsettling encounter with a race-based fetishist and later lamenting his lack of boundaries is decidedly NOT “kiddie”
Again, I hate feeding the troll, but as ASL’s arguably biggest fan/acolyte and someone vey protective of the material, I don’t take that lying down.
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TheGingerBreadMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/12
#38Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 4:19pm
Broadway Flash said: "No way. slave play is muchfunnier than strange loop. There was a certain pg13 quality to strange loop which I hated. And I thought slave play was much more serious and important too. STRANGE LOOP is the one that felt kiddie"
I think Slave Play is very good, but this is a ridiculous thing to say.
#39Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 5:16pm
Adolescent is the word I should have used. Slave play felt more adult, and generally more my style. Strange loop, to ME, seemed like it was throwing things in intentionally to be “shocking” which I did not feel that way at all with slave play. As you can tell, my picture is of another Michael Jackson show which I absolutely LOVED, and is his best show yet.
#40Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 5:22pm
Broadway Flash said: "Strange loop, to ME, seemed like it was throwing things in intentionally to be “shocking” which I did not feel that way at all with slave play.”
LOL
The Bittersweets
Swing Joined: 1/14/23
#42Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/23/24 at 7:38pm
Broadway Flash said: "Adolescent is the word I should have used. Slave play felt more adult, and generally more my style. Strange loop, to ME, seemed like it was throwing things in intentionally to be “shocking” which I did not feel that way at all with slave play. As you can tell, my picture is of another Michael Jackson show which I absolutely LOVED, and is his best show yet."
OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! PLEASE GO AWAY!
The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
CopleyScott17
Understudy Joined: 5/5/19
#43Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/24/24 at 11:50am
One of my fondest Broadway memories is being in the audience on (the first) closing night. I knew very little about the show going in, got a great seat at the last minute, and found it remarkable. So I had high hopes for this documentary, and while it did bring back memories and provide a lot of interesting context and welcome insights on Harris's process, it was ultimately too much self-celebration and navel-gazing for my tastes. And I'm especially annoyed that the actors weren't individually credited -- just one quick list, with no way to identify who was who. I find that insulting to them, and pretty inexcusable.
#44Slave Play. Not a movie. A play.
Posted: 6/24/24 at 1:29pm
Remembe when JOH basically nosedived Center Theatre Group's entire season? That was fun.
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