Posted: 7/4/15 at 2:59pm
http://www.tonyawards.com/pdf/2015_Tony_Rules_and_Regulations.pdf
Updated On: 7/4/15 at 02:59 PM
Posted: 7/4/15 at 3:14pm
"Is that true? Are you saying that's a Tony eligibility rule? I guess I can't think of a case when a show has been revived less than three years from the original, or even another revival, but it surprises me that they'd have a rule like that. It seems more just like common sense, that producers SHOULDN'T revive a show a year after the original. Theoretically, if some other producer foolishly decided they wanted to do a revival of The Last Ship this fall with new direction, design, etc. wouldn't that be considered an eligible revival? "
In the unlikely event that something like you described happened with The Last Ship (or any show), the producers could always petition to be considered. But, that's such a far-fetched scenario to imagine any producers picking up the rights and re-opening an entirely new production in such a short time span that there's no reason to even address it until it happens.
I've assumed the rule regarding how much time has to pass between closing of one production and the opening of the revival was put in place to deal with tours that are doing "return engagements" (Hair and Fela!, for two recent examples), and shows that close for a short period to do a major re-tooling and overhaul of the show and then re-open in the same season they close (there were rumors that the producers of The Scarlet Pimpernel wanted to be considered as a revival when they closed at the Minskoff in May of 1999 and then re-opened that fall at the Neil Simon).
Posted: 7/4/15 at 3:19pm
Not sure how I feel about this- It is a great score, one of the best contemporary scores IMO, but it still feels too recent revive it. But her, if the production is great and has something new and innovative to bring to the piece, then I'm all for it.
Posted: 7/4/15 at 3:25pm
I would like to invest. How do I contact Dawn Davenport?
Posted: 7/4/15 at 3:48pm
I'd be really interested to see a revival. I loved the score, and adored the UK tour version of the musical. However, I hated the original Broadway production. I felt the overly stylised presentation betrayed the brutal honesty of the show's protagonists.
Posted: 7/4/15 at 4:24pm
Not interested. Overrated. Pop culture blah.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 1:13pm
"I've assumed the rule regarding how much time has to pass between closing of one production and the opening of the revival was put in place to deal with tours that are doing "return engagements" (Hair and Fela!, for two recent examples)"
But those "return engagements" (like Hair, Fela!, Christmas Story, Elf, etc.) were the exact same production that had just played on Broadway, so they wouldn't have been eligible for best revival regardless of the time gap. Cabaret was ineligible for best revival last year for the same reason.
The understand that the scenario I proposed regarding The Last Ship was wildly improbable, but that was my point. If that hypothetical situation WERE to come to pass, I still don't see how there could be grounds to disqualify if it truly were a DIFFERENT production of the show.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 1:26pm
Cabaret was eligible for Best Revival. Production elements and Alan Cumming were not.
https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Breaking-News-Final-2014-Tony-Awards-Eligibility-from-LADY-DAY-to-CABARET-20140425
Posted: 7/5/15 at 1:33pm
Oh, I stand corrected. Sorry about that.
Still, I have to say I find it very odd that it WAS eligible. Why would it be eligible for Best Revival if the staging, direction, design, etc. was all the same as it was before?
Posted: 7/5/15 at 1:50pm
Posted: 7/5/15 at 1:53pm
The "Cabaret" decision was a bit of an outlier, that situation presents itself only rarely. Roundabout wanted it eligible, and the argument I believe, was that there was precedent with a previous revival of "A Chorus Line" using the same design/choreo/etc as the original and being eligible. Honestly, I think they just said yes b/c they assumed it had an extremely small chance of getting in to the category (given the # of musical revivals, a fourth nominee could only get in as a result of a tie, and its competitors were all well liked and going to get votes).
The only thing different about it was the performances. Which were eligible, except for Alan (interesting note: if Cumming had lost his original acting bid as the Emcee, he would have been eligible for a second nomination for the role).
Posted: 7/5/15 at 2:54pm
MayAudra, you are imagining the process. There was no "they" involved: the show was manifestly eligible for best revival and there was no deliberation. Indeed, were there adecision in violation of the rules, it would have been actionable.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 3:03pm
"Spring Awakening without that hobbit Rachel Berry?!! Great! I'm in!"
You're trying too hard to appear new.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 3:13pm
I'll totally acknowledge that you're correct about the rules of eligibility. At this point I'm disagreeing with the principal of the thing. To me it's silly that productions with the same direction, design, etc. could be allowed to be eligible for best revival more than once. To me, that's on par with allowing a still-running show to be eligible for the Tonys again. Like if next year they randomly decided to consider Chicago eligible for best revival again. Obviously I know it's not LITERALLY the same thing, since the Tonys go off of opening dates when they consider season eligibility, but from an awards-giving perspective, what's the difference? In both cases they'd be allowing a production which has already had its shot at the award, to be nominated again.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 3:18pm
"(interesting note: if Cumming had lost his original acting bid as the Emcee, he would have been eligible for a second nomination for the role)."
Is this true? I always thought once a performer is nominated for a Tony, they aren't again eligible to be nominated for the same role in a 'return engagement' of the same production. The only example I can think of to back this up might be Cathy Rigby in Peter Pan; she was nominated the first time she played the role on Broadway, but not in either of the three return Broadway engagements (though the production itself was nominated twice for Best Revival)
Posted: 7/5/15 at 3:51pm
"I know from an insider friend. The contracts will be signed very soon"
Is that the same insider friend that told you that the Lyric Opera production of Carousel was definitely transferring this fall?
Whilethismaybetrue, no announcement has been made. There is only sepculstion. Besides, you are the biggest liar here. Nobody will ever believe you. Why don't you try sticking to posting known facts for a while. Try building up a little credibility before before posting hearsay.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 5:05pm
That production really was, I promise!! Things fell through at the last second
Posted: 7/5/15 at 6:46pm
But in this case announcements have been made, the casting call is out, they are having auditions, they are rehearsing in August and a Theatre will be named very soon.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 6:59pm
"But in this case announcements have been made, the casting call is out, they are having auditions, they are rehearsing in August and a Theatre will be named very soon."
And as the saying goes (updated for inflation) that and $2.75 will get you on the subway.
And by the way, no "announcements have been made." It doesn't cost much to put up a casting notice. We should have a better idea within 48 hours, because they either do, or do not,have a theatre, and either will or will not announce it in the ext couple of days.
Many aspire, few achieve.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 7:49pm
"That production really was, I promise!! Things fell through at the last second "
No, it wasn't, and no things didn't. You lie... about almost everything. So, why would anyone belive you now?
Posted: 7/5/15 at 7:51pm
I did not lie, they were about to go into the lyric, but decided to wait
Posted: 7/5/15 at 9:04pm
"You're trying too hard to appear new."
HA
Posted: 7/5/15 at 9:44pm
A million times UGH. I also thought it was too soon for a Color Purple revival, but at least I can tolerate that show. I have zero love for Spring Awakening- but I do feel that this production would be more suited to off-Broadway, a la Avenue Q or RENT.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 11:37pm
You can't do a musical with 25 in the cast and a band off-broadway commercially.
Posted: 7/5/15 at 11:41pm
This should be done at a non-profit theatre.
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