Stage Door Exits In Covid 19 World- Page 2

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 10:11am

THRILLED by a glimpse is understandable - but that's not LIFE CHANGING.   

 

So there is nothing creepy about wanting to see a star. There is nothing creepy about stage dooring. It only becomes creepy when boundaries and common sense cease to exist for the fan. 

WHICH IS WHAT I BASICALLY SAID.
 

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 12:16pm

As an aside, if you're doing Company, I don't think Patti ever stage-doored even before covid. Neither did Christopher Fitzgerald. It's a luck of the draw who does or doesn't. It's a bit like the NBA players who sign jerseys at the tunnel. Some big stars (Giannis, Steph Curry, KD) sign and others (Lebron, Kawhi Leonard, Ja Morant) don't. 

[Dollypop]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 12:40pm

I've stated this before:

As someone who has his share of friends who are actors, I would regularly visit with them backstage after a performance and leave with them via the stage door. The expressions on the faces behind the barricade are downright scary: intense, wide-eyed, determined.. I stand back and let my friends greet their fans but on a few occasions the fans have asked for my autograph--simply because I'm so-and-so's friend.

I fully understand why some actors want to avoid this.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 5:40pm

If you want an autographed playbill, send a self addressed stamped envelope to the show. No one should be stagedooring right now. Even the people who think “oh that doesn’t apply to me, I can” shouldn’t be, but they have no regard for the actors. They don’t care. If you care, don’t stagedoor. It’s not the only thing that contributes to cancellations, but it CERTAINLY (again) does not help. Do your part to make sure shows stay open and performers aren’t out of work. 

[perfectlymarvelous]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 5:54pm

I totally understand being impacted by someone's work and wanting to tell them this; it's the main reason I stage doored back in my teens and early 20s. But honestly? These days, it's much more satisfying to send a nice tweet or Instagram comment about a show or an actor's performance, and many of them do respond and are very kind. I've had several lovely conversations about things I've seen that I've loved over social media with actors and other creative folks, and it feels so much more genuine and mutually respectful than waiting at the stage door, especially with the ongoing pandemic. 

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 5:56pm

hearthemsing22 said: "If you want an autographed playbill, send a self addressed stamped envelope to the show. No one should be stagedooring right now. Even the people who think “oh that doesn’t apply to me, I can” shouldn’t be, but they have no regard for the actors. They don’t care. If you care, don’t stagedoor. It’s not the only thing that contributes to cancellations, but it CERTAINLY (again) does not help. Do your part to make sure shows stay open and performers aren’t out of work."

I will, once again, reiterate: the stage door is outdoors. Anyone who claims to "follow the science," but ignores the fact that outdoor spread is dramatically reduced, as compared to indoor spread, is only following the science that is convenient to their narrative.

If you were correct here (which you are not), there wouldn't be shows that have resumed the stage door.

If someone doesn't want to stage door right now, totally fine. That's their prerogative. But get off everyone else's back about it.

Updated On: 5/16/22 at 05:56 PM

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 7:57pm

BroadwayRox3588 said: "hearthemsing22 said: "If you want an autographed playbill, send a self addressed stamped envelope to the show. No one should be stagedooring right now. Even the people who think “oh that doesn’t apply to me, I can” shouldn’t be, but they have no regard for the actors. They don’t care. If you care, don’t stagedoor. It’s not the only thing that contributes to cancellations, but it CERTAINLY (again) does not help. Do your part to make sure shows stay open and performers aren’t out of work."

I will, once again, reiterate: the stage door isoutdoors. Anyone who claims to "follow the science," but ignores the fact that outdoor spread is dramatically reduced, as compared to indoor spread, is only following the science that is convenient to their narrative.

If you were correct here (which you are not), there wouldn't be shows that have resumed the stage door.

If someone doesn't want to stage door right now, totally fine. That's their prerogative. But get off everyone else's back about it."

It doesn’t matter if it’s outdoors-it’s unnecessary. Shows haven’t resumed stagedooring-people just gather outside and most likely, performers feel guilty if they don’t stop. It’s hasn’t returned-there are LITERALLY signs near the stagedoors. Haven’t you seen those?? Or do they not apply to you? Do the rules not apply to you?  You’re not correct hun. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 8:00pm

Stagedooring isn’t back and we shouldn’t be saying it doesn’t matter. It does. Would you be okay-as someone pointed out in an earlier comment-if someone waited for your autograph after your work day? If after a long day, you just wanted to go home, but no-you have to give autographs and sign and take pictures and oh can you do a shoutout to my friends cousin who loves you? It snowballs. It puts pressure on the performers. And that’s not okay. But if you’re okay with not caring about them….

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 8:17pm

And, as someone else pointed out, acting like stage dooring is the same as waiting outside a random person's place of employment is a positively stupid false equivalency.

And text on a screen was not, is not, and will never be the same thing as a real, human, in-person moment of connection. 

You can say you don't like stagedooring without leaning on these silly arguments. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/16/22 at 8:28pm

jkcohen626 said: "And, as someone else pointed out, acting like stage dooring is the same as waiting outside a random person's place of employment is a positively stupid false equivalency.

And text on a screen was not, is not, and will never be the same thing as a real, human, in-person moment of connection.

You can say you don't like stagedooring without leaning on these silly arguments."

You can’t say stagedooring is back without implying that you don’t care about the performers, you only care about a signature or photo. Which is completely unnecessary right now. I’m sending a SASE to get an autograph because I respect the performers during this time, I know they’re already under pressure and people have even resorted to getting their private email addresses to say they were disappointed that someone didn’t stage door. Are you saying THAT is okay?? Do you not understand the pressure this puts on performers? Does that matter at ALL to you?? It seems like it’s all about you.

 

and no, my arguments are not silly. I haven’t called your arguments silly-please don’t do that to me. Thanks 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/17/22 at 2:23pm

Considering rates are going up in NYC and they’re no longer requiring proof of vaccination, you don’t know who’s attending shows. What their status is. And even if they’re outside, they could be unvaccinated, an actor stops to sign their playbill, it spreads(YES IT CAN OUTSIDE) then the show closes because of exposures (see recent cancelled performances like Suffs). So right now, going to the stagedoor should be your LAST priority. 

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 5/23/22 at 10:21pm

Just came back to this post because apparently lots of people are stage dooring. I sat next to a woman who stage doored at Take Me Out and Chicago. She was showing me the footage on her phone. The TMO guys, including Jesse Williams were signing maskless for lots of fans. Pam was also signing maskless but apparently if you waited you had to be masked. Tons of people for Pam-packed like sardines.

Oh and to the previous poster who said outside is safe and following science. Not when it’s very warm (viruses love warm) and people are packed like sardines all breathing on each other. Gross. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/25/22 at 8:29pm

They’ve had to cancel performances of shows, Alex Brightman is out because of a positive test-is your selfie or autograph REALLY so crucial right now?? Truly-is it that important when we’re still in a pandemic??? 

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 5/25/22 at 9:05pm

hearthemsing22 said: "They’ve had to cancel performances of shows, Alex Brightman is out because of a positive test-is your selfie or autograph REALLY so crucial right now?? Truly-is it that important when we’re still in a pandemic???"

Are you actually implying that being outside, for a brief moment is why an actor has tested positive? There are no direct links. In my opinion, if someone goes to the grocery, on the subway, walks the street, and decides they would want to Stage Door for theatre patrons or wait for actors, great. (Also for reference "pandemic" has a mortality rate of 3.5-5% or higher attached to it. It must be higher as well than the 2.1% replenishment rate of the population, for it to actually be considered a pandemic)

[@z5]

Posted: 5/25/22 at 10:04pm

Heather, baby, get real already. Realistically, you’re probably stagedooring more than anyone. 
 

scientifically, nothing you’re saying makes sense. If you have any concrete data or evidence that shows actors are getting sick and shows are getting canceled because of a brief encounter outside that may or may not even be happening, then please present it. 
 

otherwise, just be quiet already and get off your invisible throne. 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 5/25/22 at 10:24pm

Theatrefanboy1 said: Are you actually implying that being outside, for a brief moment is why an actor has tested positive? There are no direct links. In my opinion, if someone goes to the grocery, on the subway, walks the street, and decides they would want to Stage Door for theatre patrons or wait for actors, great. (Also for reference "pandemic" has a mortality rate of 3.5-5% or higher attached to it. It must be higher as well than the 2.1% replenishment rate of the population, for it to actually be considered a pandemic)"

 

Sorry, doll -- but no one gives two flyting f**ks about "your opinion".  Please kindly share with us the details on where you attended medical school and your credentials in epidemiology.  Until then, how 'bout we all stick to actual science.

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 5/25/22 at 11:18pm

JSquared2 said: "Theatrefanboy1 said:Are you actually implying that being outside, for a brief moment is why an actor has tested positive? There are no direct links. In my opinion, if someone goes to the grocery, on the subway, walks the street, and decides they would want to Stage Door for theatre patrons or wait for actors, great. (Also for reference "pandemic" has a mortality rate of 3.5-5% or higher attached to it. It must be higher as well than the 2.1% replenishment rate of the population, for it to actually be considered a pandemic)"



Sorry, doll -- but no one gives two flyting f**ks about "your opinion". Please kindly share with us the details on where you attended medical school and your credentials in epidemiology. Until then, how 'bout we all stick to actual science."

You're misconstruing my "opinion" with the scientific definitions. I am simply saying there is no proof in that stage dooring in anyway is of danger. Please do yourself a favour instead of presenting yourself to be ignorant, research for yourself. The data points for classification are readily available. And as I've stated before my cousin is an epidemiologist at a national virology lab. But if you choose to believe the world is in whatever state you want, feel free to. My best to you. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/25/22 at 11:22pm

@z5 said: "Heather, baby, get real already. Realistically, you’re probably stagedooring more than anyone.


scientifically, nothing you’re saying makes sense. If you have any concrete data or evidence that shows actors are getting sick and shows are getting canceled because of a brief encounter outside that may or may not even be happening, then please present it.


otherwise, just be quiet already and get off your invisible throne."

Being 100% honest, I have not been to the stagedoor of a performance….since before the shutdown. Because I respect the performers. Because I’m doing my part. Because apparently, you’re on a throne that makes you more important than performers staying healthy. One interaction may not result in a positive test, that’s true. But if you CARE, you’d stay away and do your part since there are LITERALLY SIGNS OUTSIDE saying they won’t stop. They most likely feel pressured into doing it because people are still waiting out there. 
 

also, I don’t owe you anything :) so kindly be quiet and learn to care about something other than a selfie or autograph 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/27/22 at 2:18pm

ALSO!! Actors have been answering questions about this on social media like Instagram. People ask if they can stagedoor-they say NO. So what makes the people who disrespect that so special? So important that they get to disregard that?? 

[cwilliams]

Posted: 5/27/22 at 2:45pm

Many casts are stage dooring again, its a show by show decision.  

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/27/22 at 2:46pm

And yet, many actors ARE interacting with people at stagedoor.  Chicken or egg?    

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 5/27/22 at 3:43pm

The house manager at the Belasco told fans at Girl that Shubert houses are not allowing stage dooring and fans will be sent away. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/27/22 at 11:37pm

dramamama611 said: "And yet, many actors ARE interacting with people at stagedoor. Chicken or egg? "

Yeah because they get called out on social media or something if they don’t. It literally happened maybe a month ago that in the west end an actor didn’t stage door, and yes I’m AWARE this isn’t New York but it’s still theater; this person thought it would be okay to get an actors PRIVATE, PERSONAL EMAIL and tell them they were disappointed that they didn’t stagedoor. Actors get guilted into doing it. Because apparently they can’t have a life outside their job, they must sign! 🙄 even when COVID cases are rising. AGAIN, I am AWARE one stagedoor interaction does not a positive test make, but it doesn’t HELP. 

[soulmistin]

Posted: 5/28/22 at 1:41am

cwilliams said: "Many casts are stage dooring again, its a show by show decision."

But the thing is, the AEA still says no. I think it sends a really awful example to people when the shows are not  unified on this and sends mixed signals. I love stage dooring and it brought me some of the best encounters of my young life, but now is not the time for it, and frankly I think the people who are waiting after the show to do it are entitled and selfish. 

[soulmistin]

Posted: 5/28/22 at 1:41am

cwilliams said: "Many casts are stage dooring again, its a show by show decision."

But the thing is, the AEA still says no. I think it sends a really awful example to people when the shows are not  unified on this and sends mixed signals. I love stage dooring and it brought me some of the best encounters of my young life, but now is not the time for it, and frankly I think the people who are waiting after the show to do it are entitled and selfish.