TAMMY FAYE Reviews- Page 11

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 1:11am

I saw some clips from the final bows. Definitely feel for the cast. Everyone is working hard and it's gotta be difficult to be in such a huge flop. Obviously lots of mistakes made and I'm not advocating for bad shows to stay open but I do feel for the worker bees involved who are giving their all and trying their best. It feels like it's been a very long time since a show was this roundly rejected.

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 3:15am

BoringBoredBoard40 said: "I was at closing.

They absolutely papered the orchestra at the last minute, when I arrived to pick up my ticket I could see a VERY long comp list in the box office.

That said, I was in the Mezz and there were MAYBE 100 of us, the ushers let everyone move down and center which was good.

This show was such a misfire but I will say I never found myself bored or looking at my watch. Katie got very loud applause at her entrance, and a VERY long applause break after "If You Came To See Me Cry" myself and several others in the Mezzanine gave her a standing ovation.

One very interesting moment tonight was during the end when Andy Taylor and Michael Cervaris essentially recreatedthe controversial conversationthat Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson had on the 700 Club after 9/11. During this scene there were TONS of people boo'ing and audience members yelling "F--k You" and other such things, wonder if it always elicited that kind of reaction.

Anyways this probably was the best audience I could have seen the show with, oh well, bye Tammy Faye, onward to the great flop house in the sky."

Onward and upward??? Downward?? 🧐 at any rate, so long, and onto the next flop at the ginormous Palace. 

[Charley Kringas Inc]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 2:16pm

Per this reddit post, Rupert Goold sent this message to the cast just prior to closing:

[greensgreens]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 2:43pm

That’s an interesting letter. I guess if you don’t succeed, it’s easy to blame the audience and “political environment.” It’s interesting to hear his intentions and I’m sure the letter was well-intentioned. But it’s still insulting to blame everyone else for your failing show. 

[chrishuyen]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 2:51pm

It surprised me that they didn't make tickets more widely accessible to people.  Yes I'm sure they were papering and they had student rush and lottery (though it's not like the lottery was a guaranteed win), but no general rush or digital rush? Someone on this thread I think mentioned trying to see if they would sell them a ticket for general rush but got denied.  Why not change the policy just to get more people in if you're selling below 40% capacity?  The top comment on that reddit post was complaining about ticket prices so it seems like that's been a sticking point.

[gibsons2]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 2:54pm

Charley Kringas Inc said: "Per this reddit post, Rupert Goold sent this message to the cast just prior to closing:

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Wow, way to completely misunderstand why the show has failed... It's not about division, red vs blue of even Elton John. It's because out of all obscure, random and frankly weird subject matters being regularly showcased on Broadway, TF was the strangest of them all. And of course, not enough people cared about TF and the musical written about her. Lempicka had the same issue. I repeat, not enough people cared (nobody would be a better term, but I feel it's rude). Suffs, Hamilton, Ragtime are far more political and divisive, yet they've succeeded. If not financially, but at least in terms of awards and recognition, and resonance. 

Updated On: 12/9/24 at 02:54 PM

[TBFL]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 4:25pm

greensgreens said: "That’s an interesting letter. I guess if you don’t succeed, it’s easy to blame the audience and “political environment.” It’s interesting to hear his intentions and I’m sure the letter was well-intentioned. But it’s still insulting to blame everyone else for your failing show."

He says he takes full responsibility for his part in  letting them down. When they deserved better. Thats hardly blaming everyone else.

[binau]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 4:37pm

It's amazing to read that Rupert G note because it's very clear that in their bubble they have had too many people saying "yes" and not enough people saying "no". How he could reason his way into believing that the show is basically too controversial, too avant garde, too ambitious etc. is beyond me. I knew this show would likely fail in New York (although the scale of the failure has shocked me). And none of this is revisionist we (me and many others here) have been saying this SINCE THE BEGINNING. 



I genuinely am starting to think that a lot of people on this forum have more common sense and probably know more about New York musical theatre than some of these out of touch artists who are too focussed on their own work and not the larger theatre landscape/market...and I can only assume that some of the British leadership makes the problem worse because they are not living and breathing New York theatre. 

Yes Rupert, I was there likely literally with you in that small 300 seat London theatre and the energy was so genuinely exciting it could have led you down the wrong path to believe that you and the show was invincible but you have to get some perspective. New York theatre is the highest quality and most competitive market for musicals, you opened in a very competitive season at the worst possible time in a theatre that was far too large. Who makes these decisions??? 

Updated On: 12/9/24 at 04:37 PM

[Kad]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 5:15pm

Goold thinks this show was preaching a message of love and acceptance and that's why it failed? With that one sentiment, he demonstrates how misconceived and out of touch this entire production was.

His acceptance of blame seems empty, considering he spends nearly all of the letter blaming cultural and political forces for its failure.

[BoringBoredBoard40]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 5:16pm

I think alot of the failures of this show come down to bad lead producing, starting with letting the Andrew Rannells drama spill out into the open how it did.

Further more, wrong theater, wrong time of year (during the election is when you open this? were they high?), ticket pricing was totally out of wack, almost no press done by Elton.

The show was far from a trainwreck and much worse have run longer under more competent hands.

[Kad]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 5:24pm

The fact they only discounted tickets in the last several days- and even then, the cheapest was still over $100- essentially ensured nobody would be rushing to see it before it closed. It's rare to see a show like this that closes quickly garner absolutely no rallying effect for its final performances.

[NotCarylChurchill2]

Posted: 12/9/24 at 6:25pm

I'll say here what I've been saying for years: SHUT UP Rupert Goold. And I actually loved the show.