West Side Story revival?- Page 21

[LuPita2]

Posted: 12/8/19 at 6:06pm

100% agree with you, Luminaire. It's been brushed aside, and ignored, which is disrespectful and wrong. There definitely will be increased talk about this as the show progresses. 

Updated On: 12/8/19 at 06:06 PM

Posted: 12/8/19 at 6:38pm

<<edited by BWW staff>>

I understand that many people don't approve of him sharing a private nude photo of someone, but exaggerating the severity of the offense doesn't accomplish anything except clouding the issue.

Updated On: 12/9/19 at 06:38 PM

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 12/8/19 at 8:22pm

Exactly. Sharing someone’s personal nude photos and videos is a sexual violation. We need to bring ourselves into the present and redefine the terms. It’s the modern age of social media. If you do something sexually violating to someone (even virtually) you are a perpetrator of sexual trauma. The effects felt by the perpetrated are equally as devastating. 

Updated On: 12/9/19 at 08:22 PM

[ModernMillie3]

Posted: 12/8/19 at 8:27pm

Nah, I won't stop doing that but feel free to keep on defending him every thread. I can state my opinion and what I know about him through 60 pages of court documents I read.  He will always a danger and acted in a predatory manner, that's the conclusion I reached. It's my opinion. One does not have to break the law to be considered the word we are weirdly forbidden from using. 

 
 

Updated On: 12/9/19 at 08:27 PM

Posted: 12/8/19 at 8:33pm

You absolutely can call him anything you want. You could call him a murderer, if you wanted. Defamation is hard to prove, and free speech is well-protected. But that doesn't mean it's accurate, or helpful.

Bettyboy72 said: "Sharing someone’s personal nude photos and videos is a sexual violation."

This is a much more accurate description.

I've only defended him when people are objectively wrong about some aspect of the suit. A couple months ago people were arguing that he was guilty of breaking revenge porn laws (he wasn't), and now others are claiming he's a sexual predator (he isn't, definitionally). That's as far as I'll go in my defense of Amar.

If you find it more "troubling" that I'm trying to correct bad information instead of the fact that people are saying it at all, then I don't know what to tell you.

Updated On: 12/9/19 at 08:33 PM

[Robbie2]

Posted: 12/8/19 at 11:13pm

kade.ivy said: "Soooo...MUSIC MAN to the Broadway, yes?"

 

Nope...MM to the Winter Garden loads in August

[supersam1026]

Posted: 12/8/19 at 11:56pm

Not to get things off this topic and back on the performances, but... there have been a few seats released for the first preview. $275 premiums in the orchestra and $179 for front mezz. Looks like 17 seats total.

And for the record, whether he is a "sexual predator" or not (I personally think he is), the guy should not be involved with this, or any other, production!

[Piparoo]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 8:17am

I hate to interrupt all of the well-intentioned virtue signaling, but is anyone seeing the show tomorrow? I have tickets for April and am dying to know if it’s going to be any good.

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Posted: 12/9/19 at 9:47am

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[Highland Guy]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 11:19am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thanks for doing the right thing, BWW.

This production of WSS seems to stray too far from the WSS I know and love.  WSS without "I Feel Pretty"?  Not for me.  I do hope, however, that the show is a critical success for all involved.

Updated On: 12/9/19 at 11:19 AM

[BJR]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 3:09pm

Piparoo said: "I hate to interrupt all of the well-intentioned virtue signaling, but is anyone seeing the show tomorrow? I have tickets for April and am dying to know if it’s going to be any good."

I'll be there.

[Piparoo]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 8:10pm

BJR said: "Piparoo said: "I hate to interrupt all of the well-intentioned virtue signaling, but is anyone seeing the show tomorrow? I have tickets for April and am dying to know if it’s going to be any good."

I'll be there."

Awesome!  I hope you really enjoy it and will post your thoughts in the new previews thread!

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 8:22pm

Heard that there's no playbills tonight. Wonder if this production won't have playbills which would seriously suck.

[Sampatches]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 8:24pm

GeorgeandDot said: "Heard that there's no playbills tonight. Wonder if this production won't have playbills which would seriously suck."

Invited dress usually don’t have them 

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 8:25pm

GeorgeandDot said: "Heard that there's no playbills tonight. Wonder if this production won't have playbills which would seriously suck."

It’s invited dress. The invited dresses I have been to have never had playbills.

[VotePeron]

Posted: 12/9/19 at 8:31pm

GeorgeandDot said: "Heard that there's no playbills tonight. Wonder if this production won't have playbills which would seriously suck."

jesus christ

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 5:18am

I can’t help but wonder who the intended audience is for this production. Do you think the director saw Oklahoma! thought “well they took liberties with the show so I can do that too!”?

[dramamama611]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 6:02am

You havent even seen it yet! Van Hove's direction runs toward the unique interpretation long before OK was playing.

Professional revivals often get new insight and editing. Additionally, Sondheim has been involved in much of the rehearsal process, so I've heard.

Had a friend at the invited dress that said it was terrific...but that was a public statement and he has a friend in the show. Haven't talked to him directly to see if those are his true thoughts.

[JBC3]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 6:52am

magictodo123 said: "I can’t help but wonder who the intended audience is for this production. Do you think the director saw Oklahoma! thought “well they took liberties with the show so I can do that too!”?"

-One possible audience is anyone who has seen an archival revival of the show or the movie and is curious about a different take on it.
-Van Hove fans is another obvious audience.
-A possible third is the same demographic that finds contemporary Romeo and Juliet settings to be appealing.
-School groups are a likely fourth as lots of classes could do a compare and contrast between this production and the style/characterizations of the movie.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 8:40am

Something I absolutely hate when it comes to theater is when people judge the show before they even see it, or without even seeing a show. and this has happened far too often this season (Beetlejuice, Tootsie, West Side Story). I hate this. I understand it's kind of a given, but I really, really wish people would actually SEE the show for themselves because that is really the only way to know if you like it or not. 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 8:48am

Well I’m seeing the show next week when I’m back in the states, so I think I’m “Internet qualified” to write my full review of the show right now.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 8:54am

Jordan Catalano said: "Well I’m seeing the show next week when I’m back in the states, so I think I’m “Internet qualified” to write my full review of the show right now."

Oooooo I'd be so curious to hear what you think!! 

[JBC3]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:23am

Jordan Catalano said: "Well I’m seeing the show next week when I’m back in the states, so I think I’m “Internet qualified” to write my full review of the show right now."

I'd pay for Jordan's MadLib Reviews ....
"fill in the blanks before you even see the show and impress your online followers with how in the know you are."

[Mike Barrett]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:51am

magictodo123 said: "Something I absolutely hate when it comes to theater is when people judge the show before they even see it, or without even seeing a show. and this has happened far too often this season (Beetlejuice, Tootsie, West Side Story). I hate this. I understand it's kind of a given, but I really, really wish people would actually SEE the show for themselves because that is really the only way to know if you like it or not."

I understand, but when people are paying $100 + to see a show they need to be given a solid reason to spend money like that. Now, for people who continue to harp on this show who have zero intention to see it, just move on. 

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:57am

Mike Barrett said: "magictodo123 said: "Something I absolutely hate when it comes to theater is when people judge the show before they even see it, or without even seeing a show. and this has happened far too often this season (Beetlejuice, Tootsie, West Side Story). I hate this. I understand it's kind of a given, but I really, really wish people would actually SEE the show for themselves because that is really the only way to know if you like it or not."

I understand, but when people are paying $100 + to see a show they need to be given a solid reason to spend money like that. Now, for people who continue to harp on this show who have zero intention to see it, just move on."

I'm sure there are people who spend $100+ to see a show based on name alone. And they don't use social media, they don't do anything like that--they hear a big name is doing a show or something, and they want to see it. I'm sure that happened with (the most recent example I PERSONALLY can think of) War Paint, along with SO MANY other shows. It happens. Not EVERY single theatergoer reads reviews before they see a show. I don't. Do you think I'm the only one?