What's the line between "Enthusiastic fan" and "Stalker"? — Page 5

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#101

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 11:44am

In honor of Cheyenne's stalker who stole the poster from the Palace.

Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

#102

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 11:47am

Seriously, guys. I haven't even stolen life-size cutouts of Adam. What is this?!

A work of art is an invitation to love.

#103

I actually had a Broadway performer make me feel uncomfortable. We became friends through a mutual friend, and I told him I wanted to be friends only, but not only did he continue to play with my hair and cuddle up to me whenever we met up, but he called me a lot asking me to go out with him and fellow cast members. After awhile I got creeped out and I no longer talk to him. Since then I understand boundaries better and when I do interact with a performer I always try to act respectful and down-to-earth. Since I'm also a singer/actor, I generally ask people about their techniques and perhaps where they studied.

Updated On: 7/1/05 at 12:13 PM

#104

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 12:17pm

Well that's a switch!

Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

#105

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 12:26pm

So...when "Barefoot in the Park" opens I should keep my hands off the advertizing displays????

*crosses off entry in tattered notebook*

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#106

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 12:32pm

Probably, beacon. I'd imagine they're going to start attaching security devices to those things so they can track them digitally.

#107

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:09pm

Heh,

If you get a Broadway star's (okay...off-Broadway star's) number and they leave you messages on your machine...does that cancel out any creepy thing you may have done in the past as an "enthusiastic fan", because you bridged that gap into being friends?

Akiva

Updated On: 7/1/05 at 01:09 PM

#108

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:11pm

We'll think about that and get back to you.

Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

#109

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:19pm

It depends on the kind of messages they are leaving you.

"For me, THEATRE is an anticipation, an artistic rush, an emotional banquet, a jubilant appreciation, and an exit hopeful of clearer thought and better worlds." ~ an anonymous traveler with Robert Burns

#110

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:42pm

You are a stalker in my book if you:

Claim to be friends with them when you met them once or twice or even three times at the stage door (you get the idea)

When you quote their vacation schedule on BroadwayWorld.com

#111

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:46pm

I realize he's talking about the performer contacting him, but Wanabe has me thinking - once the performer thinks you've crossed that line, is there a way to go back? Seems to me like any "I'm not a stalker - REALLY!" efforts would just make you seem like more of one, you know?

"Which way do you want these pleats turned?" "Toward Mecca."

#112

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:49pm

Hah,

The funny thing is I only met this person three times and I was very nice and quiet when they had fans screaming them, but we got into a really good conversation, and exchanged emails and evetually phone numbers. I don't think I was being stalker-ish, it just happened. I'm not saying we are close or anything, but friendly.

Akiva

Updated On: 7/1/05 at 01:49 PM

#113

Too Weird

Posted: 7/1/05 at 1:52pm

I got tired so I didn't read all of the posts so someone might have said this already.
Living in NY you know where celebrities live, and where you see them. How some people get their actual address, apartment #, etc. I don't know.
I think its weird too...
-give fan art, gifts etc.
-follow them (thats a given)
-approach them while at a restaurant eating
-buy everything you can get on them (eyelashes definitely included lol)
there are more, but I can't think of any at the moment.

I don't think its weird when you're favorite actor/actress knows your name because when you meet them, you usually introduce yourself. Well, maybe not stagedoor meetings, but when you meet them at other venues, you should introduce yourself, at least your first name.

And I agree with everyone who said that you HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMITS!!! It gets weird. I've had several conversations with actors after shows about how its weird when people see shows like 200 times. If you want to see a show that many times go ahead, its just weird to wait afterwards at the stagedoor, EVERY time. That becomes a little stalkerish.

#114

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 1:54pm

Does anyone think some of these people are over the line? I wondered when I read the hard copy.

http://www.playbill.com/features/article/93924.html

"Which way do you want these pleats turned?" "Toward Mecca."

#115

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:08pm

ENTHUSIASTIC FAN: You go to the stage door or write a nice letter to tell the performer how much you enjoyed their performance or enjoy their work.

STALKER: You screw around with the crew or someone not actually IN the show, just so you can get backstage.

"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~

Updated On: 7/9/05 at 02:08 PM

#116

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:11pm

Fan: wants to be the performer's true love

Stalker: REALLY believes theyre the performer's true love

#117

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:23pm

"Fan: Collects autographs

Stalker: Collects DNA"

I don't know why, but this really cracked me up.

Gypsy - Betty Buckley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUN5XoB5vFs&feature=youtu.be

#118

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:26pm

I wrote a letter to Barrett Foa way back in January after I saw Q. Bought tickets to see Q in June. Saw Q in June. Wrote a follow up letter since he wasn't at the stage door. He wrote back!

I had most of the cast sign new orange converse I bought, so I sent the shoelaces in the mail lol to him, and I got sent back a letter, the shoelaces signed, signed playbill and signed picture that was from my January letter :). Just got it yesterday :)

I thought sending a follow up letter might weird him out..But I'm really just an enthusiastic fan! :)

And the other thing about the Phantom Lady was, Bert, she realized, in the city that never sleeps... What did she realize, Kitten? That all the songs she'd listened to, all the love songs, that they were only songs. What's wrong with that? Nothing, if you don't believe in them. But she did, you see. She believed in enchanted evenings, and she believed that a small cloud passed overhead and cried down on a flower bed, and she even believed there was breakfast to be had... Where? On Pluto. The mysterious, icy wastes of Pluto.

Updated On: 7/8/05 at 02:26 PM

#119

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:28pm

Fan: You ask for autographs, and generally want to see everything they do professionally.

Stalker: You LEGALLY change your name to "MrMarkCharlieBrownCohen"

Gypsy - Betty Buckley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUN5XoB5vFs&feature=youtu.be

#120

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:29pm

ChiChi, I'm still laughing!

#121

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 2:42pm

what i think is ironic is when people don't think they are "stalkers" (let's call them the non-stalker) but backstage people are warning the performner (actor, recording artist...whoever) that the "non-stalker" is there that night and security measures are heightened. that happens more than you would know--at least in the recording industry world. and the performer would most likely be nice to the "non-stalker" too, if the face to face occured.

i also think that in some cases, people are born with that tendancy...or have been raised in a way that inhibits or disallows the understanding of what is socially acceptable.

So long status quo/ I think I just let go/ You make me want to be/ BRAVE

#122

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 4:56pm

Enthusiastic Fan -- Goes to see the person in shows and in concerts, has a poster of them, tries to meet them, etc.

Stalker -- Tries to meet the person and follows them around, tries to see them wherever they are whenever they can (meaning if they were in Starbucks right now and they heard, they would get in their car and drive over just to see them) someone who's OBSESSED and has millions of posters and pics, etc.

"I'll bet that you're Kristin Chenoweth MBP!"

#123

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 5:02pm

Enthusiatic fan waits at the stage door and talks to them, at the theatre or emails, regularly.

Stalker follows them on the subway, hahaha matt morrison had a stalker...poor guy.

"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird

#124

The Line

Posted: 7/8/05 at 5:58pm

I agree with what someone said earlier about the way you're brought up to have something to do with it too. If you're brought up in a family that tends to be like "Ohh Celebrities are GOD!", then of course whenever you see one you're going to freak out or something. I also would hate to be at a stage door when said people see that certain performer they've been waiting for. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
As far as stage door stuff goes though, I don't really think presents are a problem as long as it's your first time at the stage door and giving them one, and it's something not too extravagant like a card or a picture or something like a green scarf for Wicked. NORMAL gifts. Not a picture of you with the actor's face superimposed in a tux. That's a no-no.

And as far as going to the stage door when you haven't seen the show that night- IMO that's ok as long as you don't do it more than once or maybe twice. I saw the Wicked tour in Toronto and never got to go to the stage door to meet Stephanie J. Block who was FABULOUS, so therefore if I happened to be in another city where the tour was I don't think it'd be creepy if i went to the stage door after, explained how I saw it in Toronto and couldn't go to the stage door there, but asked her for an autograph and picture. I think that would only be considered stalker-ish if I purposely drove to a certain tour city just to go to the stage door, and went more than once. But that creeps me out just thinking that someone might do that. *shudder* I guess it's like some people just have no shame or something, and don't realize the performer they're talking to could be insanely creeped out.

Ok, one more of these comparisons because i think they're fun.

Fan- You develop your stage door picture and you're both smiling and looking happy. Aww.
Stalker- You develop your stage door PICTURES and you're smiling and hugging them, they're looking serious/frightened, and you frolic over to the shrine on your wall of other pictures of them you printed out online to add this new one without even noticing the look of terror on their face.
Aw, poor broadway stars

"It breaks my heart to see a grown man dressed as a Taco." -David Sedaris
I love Les Miserables.
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Updated On: 7/8/05 at 05:58 PM

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