Which shows will Covid-19 end?- Page 4

[singerunlimited]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 10:50am

Broadway's "longest-running show, 'The Phantom of the Opera,' has grossed over $7 billion. It will be back..."

Boy, Riedel sure changed his tune on PHANTOM quickly!

[Philly Theater Girl]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 10:57am

I didn't see Moulin Rouge listed in the article but I tend to think it will be back. The  producers have deep pockets and the show is successful. 

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 11:13am

singerunlimited said: "Broadway's "longest-running show, 'The Phantom of the Opera,' has grossed over $7 billion. It will be back..."

Boy, Riedel sure changed his tune on PHANTOM quickly!"

Because he spoke to Andrew Lloyd Webber. This is from an article on 4/12:

There were rumors that Broadway’s longest running show — “The Phantom of the Opera” — may have to close down for good. After 32 years, it’s dependent on the tourist trade, which will be thin for the next few months. But Andrew Lloyd Webber tells me that he has no intention of closing it. There are “huge plans to remarket and refresh it,” says Lloyd Webber, who plans to keep it open another 30 years.

[Fosse76]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 11:49am

CT2NYC said: "singerunlimited said: "Broadway's "longest-running show, 'The Phantom of the Opera,' has grossed over $7 billion. It will be back..."

Boy, Riedel sure changed his tune on PHANTOM quickly!"

Because he spoke toAndrew Lloyd Webber. This is from an article on 4/12:

There were rumors that Broadway’s longest running show — “The Phantom of the Opera” — may have to close down for good. After 32 years, it’s dependent on the tourist trade, which will be thin for the next few months. But Andrew Lloyd Webber tells me that he has no intention of closing it. There are “huge plans to remarket and refresh it,” says Lloyd Webber, who plans to keep it open another 30 years."

That's all well and good,  but I'd there is no audience coming in to see it, how much money is here willing to lose in order to keep it running? 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 11:54am

I could see him reaching deep in his pockets to retain the “longest running show” title.

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 12:45pm

Guys, it’s not looking good for MOST shows that aren’t Wicked, the Disney Shows and Hamilton.

People this is gonna be a tremendous economic loss for our country.
People are not going to be buying expensive theatre tickets at ALL.

I’m not trying to be overly negative but this is far from over. It’s really gonna be one of the biggest financial hits to this industry ever.

[Philly Theater Girl]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 1:40pm

rattleNwoolypenguin said: "
Guys, it’s not looking good for MOST shows that aren’t Wicked, the Disney Shows and Hamilton.

People this is gonna be a tremendous economic loss for our country.
People are not going to be buying expensive theatre tickets at ALL.

I’m not trying to be overly negative but this is far from over. It’s really gonna be one of the biggest financial hits to this industry ever."

I'm not sure about this 'People are not going to be buying expensive theatre tickets at ALL'. This is devastating for many, many people but there are also those people whose income many not be impacted by this. I refer to the people already working from home or are able to work from home.  After this is all over and movie theaters, shows, restaurant, etc reopen there will be people desperate to get out of the house and do something. Heck, i get there people who would still go to see a show today it Broadway was still open.

[binau]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 1:49pm

People can ‘work from home’ but trust me the economy is tanking for many industries, including those that can work from home. Let’s see if there are still jobs for many of these people in 3 months’ time. This will have a long-lasting devastating effect on all western economies for years. Broadway is not going to recover quickly. Sadly, it is Armageddon and it almost could not get worse.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 2:00pm

Broadway will not recover quickly, that is true but with a show like “Phantom” has going for it that only a small handful of shows do, is that when shows do resume, there are enough people who have worked on that show on broadway or on tour, who can start it up and run it with insanely minimal rehearsal time. It’s like muscle memory to them. So while broadway may take time to come back, “Phantom” should be back immediately.

[binau]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 2:14pm

Yes but selfishly is anyone really that keen to see Phantom? LOL. I want to see Company, Flying Over Sunset, Virginia Woolf etc. for me a Broadway landscape of Wicked, Phantom, Hamilton is not something that would excite me at this point in my life 😂

[Colin852]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 2:25pm

qolbinau said: "Yes but selfishly is anyone really that keen to see Phantom? LOL. I want to see Company, Flying Over Sunset, Virginia Woolf etc. for me a Broadway landscape of Wicked, Phantom, Hamilton is not something that would excite me at this point in my life ?"

Would be quite ironic if most of the shows left standing are the ones that the NY community spent years shunning.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 3:24pm

I would never pass up another trip to Hamilton. I would love to see how the show has transformed since I saw Lin, Leslie, et al in 2016. There is no denying that it is the best original musical right now on Broadway and if ticket prices decrease following the crisis, I'd absolutely give it another shot, pun intended.

I also have never seen both Phantom and Chicago, but I've seen Wicked twice (none since 2015). I think a community full of long runners would give New Yorkers a great opportunity to relive these works with newer casts. Disney on Broadway should be fine, but I wonder if The Lion King will be the sole survivor of their current three-headed monster.

[Kimbo]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 3:41pm

When this is over there is absolutely no scenario in which a majority, or even sizable portion, of New Yorkers rush to see Phantom, Chicago, Wicked, Lion King and Aladdin again just because “it’s all that’s open”. Maybe certain people will go see one (I’d check in on Hamilton, as suggested, to support Broadway, and if ticket prices are sane- though even there we presumably have a movie of the original cast being released around the time this crisis is winding down). More likely, those shows will rely more than ever on the slowly-rebuilding tourist industry, while New Yorkers will wait for the next exciting new productions, whether ones rescheduled from this season, or yet-to-be-announced offerings from the Vineyard, MCC, Rattlestick, Second Stage, Signature etc (the companies that need our support anyway)- and even there, theatergoers will likely be selective due to less discretionary finances to spend.
 

My guess? It will be a boom time at the movies almost immediately - possibly more than ever - but due to a) ticket prices for customers, b) difficulty for producers to raise money in the middle of a recession/depression, and c) immediate lack of new product, it’s going to take a good 2-3 years (from the time of the quarantines ending, just to be clear, not from now) before live theatre entirely gets back to where it was before last week.
 

(EDIT: Incidentally, I’ve heard of 2 of this season’s productions that have already decided they won’t be coming back. I’m sure they won’t be alone. Expect announcements to begin to trickle out over the next week or two.)

Updated On: 3/20/20 at 03:41 PM

[LexiGirl]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 3:44pm

qolbinau said: "Yes but selfishly is anyone really that keen to see Phantom? LOL. I want to see Company, Flying Over Sunset, Virginia Woolf etc. for me a Broadway landscape of Wicked, Phantom, Hamilton is not something that would excite me at this point in my life ?"

I found this funny because on my trip scheduled for late April, I added Phantom onto my slate of shows because I had never seen it on Broadway, but have seen it 5 times on tour and it was the first musical I ever saw. So I was actually excited to see it! But I also had a great lineup of Company, SIX, Flying Over Sunset, Beetlejuice, and The Bedwetter, so it was like a comfort show for me.

[alogan1814]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 3:50pm

(EDIT: Incidentally, I’ve heard of 2 of this season’s productions that have already decided they won’t be coming back. I’m sure they won’t be alone. Expect announcements to begin to trickle out over the next week or two.)"

Out of curiosity, which ones are rumored to already not be coming back?

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 4:55pm

Kimbo said: "When this is over there is absolutely no scenario in which a majority, or even sizable portion, of New Yorkers rush to see Phantom, Chicago, Wicked, Lion King and Aladdin again just because “it’s all that’s open”."

I was considering seeing Wicked with Lindsay Pearce. I wonder what will happen with those short contracts in long-running shows. 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 5:01pm

I’ve also been thinking/wondering if some shows could stunt cast to get tickets/publicity back up. Shows like Wicked could maybe get Idina for 8 weeks? Bebe in “Chicago”? Tina Fey in “Mean Girls”? I don’t know. I’m also just ridiculously bored and speculating.

[Kad]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 5:07pm

I’m hearing we should expect to hear not great news from the Broadway League very soon.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 5:26pm

Let me guess:

Come Monday, there won't be a Tony ceremony. Every show this season will have nothing else to stay open for, and 2021 will not be a joint ceremony (if there even is one). 

That's what's probably going to happen. Sharon Clarke and Danny Burstein deserved their first awards, and very soon we will hear Patti LuPone bitching about how a stupid virus cost her a third. 

Anyway, "North Country" is Best Musical in my book and "Company" takes revival. Here's to a healthier and somewhat less chaotic 2020-21 season.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 5:59pm

Oof. Just saw on Facebook that producers are told from the city that it’ll likely be August/September before it’s safe.

[BenElliott]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 6:03pm

Hangmen officially isn't coming back.

[jonah3500]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 6:03pm

Hangmen.

Updated On: 3/20/20 at 06:03 PM

[BWAY Baby2]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 6:06pm

I wonder if Lehman Trilogy is gonna make it- it only has 3 performers- from what I understand- and I assume it is not avery expensive production to maintain. Do you think it can male it?

[(Insert Clever Name)]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 6:06pm

we absolutely can not compare chinas recovery time to what may happen here. look at what china is doing to contain vs what we are doing. we are doing absolutely NOTHING compared to what china has done, & people cannot even get test kits! let’s be honest here, if the US doesn’t do much else, the impact here will be more devastating than in any other country, INCLUDING italy! NYC is a particular risk. people are still using mass transport, even though it feels like the city is shut down, it really isn’t. we would need a mandatory isolation right now to even think about opening theater in a month, even then it wouldn’t happen. the way the epidemic is being treated here is laughable. the people in charge clearly do not have a care in the world for human life, or even the economy, because if they did, test kits would be distributed, the WHO kits we were offered would have been accepted, etc. the numbers we see right now are horribly deflated, & yes it looks good for optics but it is way worse for actual human life. this is already in recession territory, & quite frankly the rate at which the market plunged for correction to recession tells us that it’s going to get a lot worse very fast. even if broadway could reopen, i doubt most shows would have an audience to sell to- even the big ones. everyone is going to be hit hard by this. even the 1%. after the pandemic passes, the economic destruction will make sure that people are way more worried about the bare necessities, food, shelter &c. to even think about entertainment & novelty items. this will create a cycle because more people in those industries will be laid off, & so on. this will be so much worse than 2008 (although i was like 4 when that happened so i don’t remember what happened in the theater world), think more like the great depression. this could be the final blow for any show that doesn’t have billionaire backers, & even those will be insecure. the market was on its final legs anyway, the yield curve was down, & most stocks where being propped up by unsustainable buy-backs. our economy has no brakes for a situation like this. capitalism as a system is not going to be sustainable during the pandemic. the realist in me knows that the shows i so desperately have been wanting to see will likely never reopen, unless the restructuring banking community suddenly takes a liking to theater.

the optimist in me however, really hopes we find some way. i really wanted to see six & company, & many others.

[PianoMann]

Posted: 3/20/20 at 6:12pm

BWAY Baby2 said: "I wonder if Lehman Trilogy is gonna make it- it only has 3 performers- from what I understand- and I assume it is not avery expensive production to maintain. Do you think it can male it?"

I doubt it, unfortunately. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most of the cast is UK-based and most likely in the US on work visas, which presents significant challenges given the indefinite timeline of when theaters will reopen.