Did he have any major involvement with The Broadway show? I thought Susan did most of the work. Wonder what will happen with his upcoming film...
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He wrote the book for the stage adaption. He was actually Tony nominated.
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Do they have genuine ethical concerns or is this a convenient out-clause for an impending disaster?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
qolbinau said: "Do they have genuine ethical concerns or is this a convenient out-clause for an impending disaster?"
To clarify - you're questioning if their hearts are in the right place concerning not wanting to show off a sexual abuser's work or if this is just a convenient way to look good while cancelling a production that wasn't coming along well? Because I am a little wary as well- the allegations against Woody Allen are not new at all so if they care so much- why plan to do the show in the first place?
I think what's relatively new is that Dylan Farrow (the subject of the child abuse allegations 20 years ago) gave her first public inter- view recently in which SHE corroborated her mother's claims from when Dylan was 5 or 6.
(I don't know what the truth is, but Allen continues to deny the charge and there are studies showing it is possible to "plant" false memories in a child's mind.)
Here's the effing truth and it is NOT HARD TO FIND. Mr. Allen was investigated thoroughly TWICE and found innocent of everything. This continuing hatchet job by Dylan and her mother is disgusting. Yes, I'm sure her mother has done her job brilliantly and that Dylan and Ronan believe this. Moses was there and absolutely denies that anything ever happened, and common sense would tell you that Mr. Allen, in the midst of a contentious and public breakup would hardly molest his child in her home while that's going on - he would have to be mentally deficient and he is anything but that. Like him, hate him, I don't care, but in this country we are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty and I am so sick of this crap about this person in particular. He was allowed to adopt TWO children - think that could have happened if there were even a hint of anything? No is your easy answer. As to Dylan I have one word for you: McMartin. If you don't know what that means Google is your friend, and I don't mean John McMartin. I mean McMartin as in people's lives ruined because a bunch of impressionable kids were brainwashed into making specious allegations that the idiotic public chose to believe without a shred of evidence. Then, when every single allegation was proved false all those rush to judgment types disappeared into the good night - no apologies, no oops we were wrong what can we do to fix this. What has this country become and shame on anyone here who jumps on that bandwagon without doing the simple research. But to help you out, read this article: https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/
bk, you don't know the "effing truth" any more than the rest of us. (We don't even know for sure why Goodspeed cancelled the project. It was I who speculated that Dylan's recent interview might have inspired a revival of the issue.)
I share your skepticism and went out of my way to qualify my report of the charge. But given the specifics of the claim--digital contact but no deep penetration--con- firming or debunking the assertion is no easy matter. (If Mia, Dylan and Ronan are so unhinged, why should we assume Moses is any more objective?)
Myself, I've always thought the truth of the matter to be unknowable. What turns my stomach is the marriage to his de facto stepdaughter. Yes, the Allens seem to be happy together and it was always legal; but as a step- parent myself, I think Allen set a bad example, at the very least.
bk said: "Here's the effing truth and it is NOT HARD TO FIND. Mr. Allen was investigated thoroughly TWICE and found innocent of everything. This continuing hatchet job by Dylan and her mother is disgusting. Yes, I'm sure her mother has done her job brilliantly and that Dylan and Ronan believe this. Moses was there and absolutely denies that anything ever happened, and common sense would tell you that Mr. Allen, in the midst of a contentious and public breakup would hardly molest his child in her home while that's going on - he would have to be mentally deficient and he is anything but that. Like him, hate him, I don't care, but in this country we are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty and I am so sick of this crap about this person in particular. He was allowed to adopt TWO children - think that could have happened if there were even a hint of anything? No is your easy answer. As to Dylan I have one word for you: McMartin. If you don't know what that means Google is your friend, and I don't mean John McMartin. I mean McMartin as in people's lives ruined because a bunch of impressionable kids were brainwashed into making specious allegations that the idiotic public chose to believe without a shred of evidence. Then, when every single allegation was proved false all those rush to judgment types disappeared into the good night - no apologies, no oops we were wrong what can we do to fix this. What has this country become and shame on anyone here who jumps on that bandwagon without doing the simple research. But to help you out, read this article:https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/
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Wow. Impressive you know what happened without being there! Congratulations.
bk said: "Here's the effing truth and it is NOT HARD TO FIND. Mr. Allen was investigated thoroughly TWICE and found innocent of everything. This continuing hatchet job by Dylan and her mother is disgusting. Yes, I'm sure her mother has done her job brilliantly and that Dylan and Ronan believe this. Moses was there and absolutely denies that anything ever happened, and common sense would tell you that Mr. Allen, in the midst of a contentious and public breakup would hardly molest his child in her home while that's going on - he would have to be mentally deficient and he is anything but that. Like him, hate him, I don't care, but in this country we are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty and I am so sick of this crap about this person in particular. He was allowed to adopt TWO children - think that could have happened if there were even a hint of anything? No is your easy answer. As to Dylan I have one word for you: McMartin. If you don't know what that means Google is your friend, and I don't mean John McMartin. I mean McMartin as in people's lives ruined because a bunch of impressionable kids were brainwashed into making specious allegations that the idiotic public chose to believe without a shred of evidence. Then, when every single allegation was proved false all those rush to judgment types disappeared into the good night - no apologies, no oops we were wrong what can we do to fix this. What has this country become and shame on anyone here who jumps on that bandwagon without doing the simple research. But to help you out, read this article:https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/
You’re making some pretty bold claims for somebody who doesn’t anything more than the rest of us.
RippedMan said: "You seem to think you know the truth and you weren’t there so...??
The show sucks. They made a good decision."
So? I know that the man was found INNOCENT by two separate investigative entities - read the article I posted - although I know it's easier to be a smart guy on a message board. And yes, McCarthyism is alive and well in 2018.
GavestonPS said: "bk, you don't know the "effing truth" any more than the rest of us. (We don't even know for sure why Goodspeed cancelled the project. It was I who speculated that Dylan's recent interview might have inspired a revival of the issue.)
I share your skepticism and went out of my way to qualify my report of the charge. But given the specifics of the claim--digitalcontact but no deep penetration--con- firming or debunkingthe assertion is no easy matter. (If Mia,Dylan and Ronan are sounhinged, why should weassume Moses is any more objective?)
Myself, I've always thought the truth of the matter to be unknowable. What turns my stomach is the marriage to his de facto stepdaughter. Yes, the Allens seem to be happy together and it was always legal; but as a step- parent myself, I think Allen set a bad example, at the very least."
I know that he was found innocent, that's what I know and I know that happened a quarter of a century ago. You seem to keep ignoring that. Read the article I posted, then post, rather than just saying the same old, same old. Mr. Allen was not a step-parent to Soon-Yi - that is the problem here, all this continual misinformation. In order to be a step-parent you have to be married - Mr. Allen was never married to Ms. Farrow, nor was he the adoptive father of Soon-Yi PREVIN. Nor was he a father figure to her in any way. She states that they had virtually no contact when she was not of age and SHE pursued the relationship.
TheGingerBreadMan said: "bk said: "Here's the effing truth and it is NOT HARD TO FIND. Mr. Allen was investigated thoroughly TWICE and found innocent of everything. This continuing hatchet job by Dylan and her mother is disgusting. Yes, I'm sure her mother has done her job brilliantly and that Dylan and Ronan believe this. Moses was there and absolutely denies that anything ever happened, and common sense would tell you that Mr. Allen, in the midst of a contentious and public breakup would hardly molest his child in her home while that's going on - he would have to be mentally deficient and he is anything but that. Like him, hate him, I don't care, but in this country we are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty and I am so sick of this crap about this person in particular. He was allowed to adopt TWO children - think that could have happened if there were even a hint of anything? No is your easy answer. As to Dylan I have one word for you: McMartin. If you don't know what that means Google is your friend, and I don't mean John McMartin. I mean McMartin as in people's lives ruined because a bunch of impressionable kids were brainwashed into making specious allegations that the idiotic public chose to believe without a shred of evidence. Then, when every single allegation was proved false all those rush to judgment types disappeared into the good night - no apologies, no oops we were wrong what can we do to fix this. What has this country become and shame on anyone here who jumps on that bandwagon without doing the simple research. But to help you out, read this article:https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/
You’re making some pretty bold claims for somebody who doesn’t anything more than the rest of us."
Am I? I have at least researched this and if you and everyone else would bother to simply click on the link provided, you, too, can have some illumination. But it's more fun to pontificate without any knowledge whatsoever. But Facebook and message board outrage is just too much fun for everyone. You would have been right at home with Mr. McCarthy.
He was dating Mia and without breaking it off with her, he started dating HER daughter and "accidentally" left nude photos of the two of them on mantle which is how Mia learned what happened.
Personally I don't have to know if Dylan's abuse accusation was real or not. He was a low life for doing what he did, a coward for not breaking it off with Mia first and cruel for not worrying about the pain he could cause to the Farriow family by involving himself with mother and daughter.
She persued the relationship? She was a teenager and he was an adult with years of experience. He could have said NO.
Last I looked, twenty is not a teenager, which is when they began their relationship. And Woody's relationship was long over. But I'll just let you all keep posting whatever you feel like, true or not. Why not? It's the 2018 way.
YES. Good. Everyone should cancel his work.. Everyone should stop working with him. Dylan has been saying the same exact thing for 20 years and I wish that people would just START BELIEVING girls. For those who say he was investigated and found innocent: Do you know the Olympics doctor Nassar in the news now? You admit that he was guilty, right? He was investigated 20 years ago too, and multiple times - by Michigan State University, by local and federal police, by his hospital, by Title IX, and by the gymnastics association. He was also cleared back then, so don't you dare rely on the systems we have in place now to charge accusers because they obviously don't work.
Not finding enough evidence to say he is 100% quilty is not the same as proving he is innocent. Even in a court of law, innocence is not proclaimed, but not guilty is. It's doesn't mean a person isn't guilty, but only that they weren't proven to be guilty.
I don't know the truth, don't pretend to. But truth be told, I've always found him creepy....and marrying his very young step daughter is pretty disgusting. I don't know how anyone could find someone that they once bathed, tucked into bed, & kissed "boo-boos" for, to ever sexually appealing or a romantic possibility. It might not be illegal (as adult incest is not in most states) but it does say something about a person.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
bk said: "RippedMan said: "You seem to think you know the truth and you weren’t there so...??
The show sucks. They made a good decision."
So? I know that the man was found INNOCENT by two separate investigative entities - read the article I posted - although I know it's easier to be a smart guy on a message board. And yes, McCarthyism is alive and well in 2018."
People aren't 'found innocent' in this country. There is either enough evidence to establish probable cuase to go forward with criminal charges or not enough evidence (or other reasons why charges would not be authorized).
Not even touching the Dylan Farrow allegations, the Soon-Yi stuff is enough to make me avoid Woody Allen's work on its own.
dramamama611 said: I don't know the truth, don't pretend to. But truth be told, I've always found him creepy....and marrying his very young step daughter is pretty disgusting. I don't know how anyone could find someone that they once bathed, tucked into bed, & kissed "boo-boos" for, to ever sexually appealing or a romantic possibility. It might not be illegal (as adult incest is not in most states) but it does say something about a person."
Wow - your statement is FULL of falsehoods. He was not a step-father to her. Allen never did ANY of those paternal tasks you've listed. He was not involved with Soon Yi's care at all. Yes, the beginnings of his romantic relationship with Soon Yi are admittedly gross -- but please do not spread untruths.
bk said: "I know that the man was found INNOCENT by two separate investigative entities - read the article I posted."
No investigations find someone innocent. Even juries don't find people innocent. They determine whether there is enough evidence to bring charges. Even then, it is not up to them whether the charges have merit, just that there is enough to run with...