I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Spacedog78
Featured Actor Joined: 11/3/06
#1I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:31am
I don't understand this outrage regarding Pierce getting the Tony over Raul.
I saw Company and found Raul to be quite boring, monotone, and uninteresting, throughout the entire show, up until he sang "Being Alive".
Yes, "BA" was amazing, BUT one song delivered amazingly, at the end of the show did not save his performance for me.
I have not seen Pierce in Curtains, so I can not comment on his performance.
Am I alone in feeling that Raul is overrated?
#2re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:33amNope. Overrated.
thesinger
Understudy Joined: 6/3/07
#2re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:34amI feel very different. Esparza brings tears to my eyes
jordangirl
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/1/06
#3re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:37amI personally found him and the whole show overrated. Or I just didn't get it or something. I went with a friend who adores it, and I felt bad for NOT liking it as much as she does. But then I decided I'm me and I'm allowed to like or not like what I like or don't. (I'd bought my own ticket anyway. LOL.) The whole thing just left me cold.
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#4re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:38amWAYYYY overrated. Glad he lost.
ashley0139
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/3/05
#5re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:39amYes, you're alone.
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BroadwayGirl107
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/03
#6re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:42am
To call Esparza's performance "monotone" in that show is to entirely miss his contribution to material and what an actor does to begin with. Understated and subtle, though? Absolutely.
I haven't seen David Hyde Pierce, but he must be doing downright remarkable work to deserve it over Esparza.
#7re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:43am
Subtlety. Subtlety subtlety subtlety.
But to each his own, not trying to offend.
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#8re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:44am
"Yes, you're alone."
No, he's not.
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#9re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:44amI would have been happy for Raul but I think DHP was very deserving. It's a classic case of apples and oranges.
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misschung
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/18/07
#10re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:45am
I agree Broadwaygirl. And I see that unckristen just posted what I was going to say - its apples and oranges, beets - whatever.
Maybe some of the ppl who voted for DHP didnt even see Company, lol
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tabbynyc
Stand-by Joined: 4/3/06
#11re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:48amI don't think he is overrated; he has an excellent voice. Compared to the work David Hyde Pierce had to do in "Curtains", Raul just wondered around stage and sang his one big song. I have the original cast album and Dean Jones & Larry Kert (it was added to the CD) sing "Being Alive" far better than Raul and that's listening on a CD. The Tony voters made the right choice!!
#12re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:51amTotally disagree. I can't listen to my OBCR of Company anymore. The new one is just far superior on acting, singing, and orchestrations.
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#13re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:51amApples and oranges, indeed...but I was mesmerized by Raul's performance throughout. Watch him react to the scene (the role is reactive, after all), his eyes, his wry smile, his fear. Brilliant.
jordangirl
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/1/06
#14re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:52amBorn ~ I adore subtelty. I just don't adore Company.
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#15re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:52amWell, he didn't win, so you can't be alone. :) I'm actually happy that David won.
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#16re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:53am
Exactly, gymman!
Sondheim has said himself that Raul is the first actor who has made him like "Being Alive" as the last song. He always thought it was a "cop out" ending but Raul brings such pain and depth to the role.
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StageFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 4/8/07
#17re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:55amNo SpaceDog you're not alone. I saw Company and I thought then and still think Raul Esparza's performance was over-rated. Not bad by any stretch, but not worthy of all the praise. DHP deserved this Tony. Anybody see Micheal Cerveris' reaction -- he said, "Oh yes" when DHP was named the winner. I whole-heartedly agree.
#18re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:55am
I can't listen to my OBCR of Company anymore. The new one is just far superior on acting, singing, and orchestrations.
WHAT??? I am sorry, but other than Heather Laws on "Getting Married Today", the original recording is MUCH better. And no, even though Mary Mitchell Campbell's orchestrations were decent, Jonathan Tunick's were far superior and truly beautiful. And nobody compares to Stritch as Joanne.
#19re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:56amsorry, I TOTALLY disagree
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#20re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:57amRaul stood on the edge of the stage pretending to drink out of an empty glass, taking a brief break to sing Marry Me A Little(his strongest song in the whole show) and then continued to pretend to drink until the end when he screamed out Being Alive. My voice hurt for him by the end of that song. Now, granted, Bobby is a very complex role and Company is a very complex show and I think that the John Doyle direction of it made it impossible for the actors to delve into the deeper layers of the show. They were all too busy playing their instruments and marching around the stage. I think Raul did ony worthy.
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bwaygal1
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/5/07
#21re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:58am
I don't love Company, but I loved his performance. I was at the Tonys, and I knew when Curtains hadn't won anything up to that point that DHP would steal it.
Just glad Audra didn't take Christine's award.
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#22re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 10:58amSee, I think all Doyle did was FORCE them all to delve deeper into their characters. besides playing, he gave them so little else to do that it was all focused on characterization.
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LostLeander
Broadway Star Joined: 3/18/05
#23re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 11:03am
You think the orchestrations for the revival are BETTER than the original? Very interesting, Born. I think the original is PERFECT, and the revival orchestrations service the show well - but was NOT at all a high point of my experience with the production. It's probably why I don't have the CD.
I don't know if Pierce deserved the Tony over Raul because I haven't seen Curtains, but the look on Raul's face made my heart bleed.
Happy for Pierce though, he was so genuinely surprised, and earnest.
Personally, I think I have too much bloom.
#24re: I did NOT think Raul deserved the tony...am I alone?
Posted: 6/11/07 at 11:04am...yet had a very well-prepared speech with specific shout-outs to all the losers...
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