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89th Academy Awards Thread
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#17589th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 7:30am
The whole thing is just sad- the win is tainted as it looks like they took it away from La La Land.
They didn't but that's the optics and the LLL folk were kicked in the gut. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of vistory.
Wonder if Ernst & Young will be the new auditors ?
#17689th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 7:32am
If Isabelle Huppert had won Best Actress, the mistake with the card would have been noticed much sooner.
#17789th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 8:56am
Gorlois said: If Isabelle Huppert had won Best Actress, the mistake with the card would have been noticed much sooner.
Isabelle was GODDESS! Putting to shame many or the younger starlets at 63!!!
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Fergalicious
Understudy Joined: 2/15/17
#17889th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 9:04am
Why can't you just acknowledge that Isabelle Huppert looked great without having to turn it into some sort of competition with other actresses older or younger.
Everything isn't a competition sweetie.
Huppert looked fantastic - she put no one to shame.
#17989th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 9:08am
Yikes! Lay off the Espresso sweetie
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BroadwayConcierge
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/24/15
#18089th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 9:24am
Fergalicious, of all the posts to chastise Petra over... that's the one you pick? One in which she compliments a beautiful actress? Wow...
Anyway, it's been super interesting reading the coverage of the Best Picture debacle this morning. It's become clear that there are indeed two winner cards printed for each category, in two different suitcases on opposite sides of the stage. This means that Emma Stone's pointing out that she was holding her Best Actress card was certainly true—but that there was in fact another one in circulation. It's looking like the situation resulted possibly from Leo DiCaprio setting down the Best Actress card he had been holding, and Warren Beatty mistakenly picking that one up instead of Best Picture... either way, whoever should've been working all night to circumvent situations like that from happening in the first place is definitely out of a job this morning.
#18189th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 10:02am
The whole thing is just sad- the win is tainted as it looks like they took it away from La La Land.
It doesn't look that way at all. Not even a little. Nothing that happened in the broadcast or the aftermath even hints at it. I can't imagine anyone coming up with that opinion other than those who are far too delusional and crazy to engage in conversation, like white supremacists. But they would already be foaming at the mouths at most of the evening, anyway.
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#18289th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 10:12am
bear88, if La La Land had won Best Picture would there by any need to try to analyze and dissect it's win?
Is it because Moonlight was the gay black film that wasn't white enough/mainstream enough/happy-go-lucky enough to take the prize?
Basically what you're saying is the movie you were rooting for would have won under "normal" circumstance but because of "x", "y" and "z" Moonlight won instead?
I don't think so.
Moonlight won because it was clearly the better film to the Academy voters as was every other film that has won in that category.
There is no need to justify it's win.
#18389th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 10:13am
Apparently, they used a wrong photo during the In Memoriam sequence as well.
Oscars: Australian Producer Jan Chapman Devastated by Mistaken In-Memoriam Photo
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brdlwyr
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/14/05
#18489th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 10:17am
I have never been a fan of the Occars. The ending was an embarrassment to PWC and I hope that the contract is voided.
Did Viola state "only profession." That gave me pause!
#18589th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 10:51am
Yes, Viola did and it gave me pause as well. My immediate reaction was an outburst of "wtf...guess the other performing & visual arts don't matter". Then, I attributed the blunder to her being caught up in the excitement of it all. I found her acceptance speech otherwise moving.
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
bear88
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
#18689th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 10:53am
Moonlight won because it was clearly the better film to the Academy voters as was every other film that has won in that category.
CarlosAlberto, my personal preference has nothing to do with it. I was stating that to put my bias upfront. (It may be that Moonlight stands the test of time a lot better than La La Land. I've wondered that myself.)
But you must be kidding if you think the Academy Award usually goes to the best film, or even the best film nominated. When it does, it's usually an accident.
Last night's outcome was unexpected. I was speculating about the reasons why that might have happened. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you want to fall back on the wisdom of Academy voters, we can go through their sorry history of picking the best films of the year.
I definitely disagree with a couple of posters who say Moonlight's win is "tainted."
No, it's not. There was a screwup. That's not the Moonlight filmmakers' fault. If anything, they got screwed out of some of the joy of the triumph.
#18789th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 11:03am
javero said: "Yes, Viola did and it gave me pause as well. My immediate reaction was an outburst of "wtf...guess the other performing & visual arts don't matter". Then, I attributed the blunder to her being caught up in the excitement of it all. I found her acceptance speech otherwise moving.
""I became an artist, and thank god I did, because we are the only profession that celebrates what it means to live a life""
"She said the "Arrtist" so I thought that is all the Arts. but my friend who is a nurse and helps people live every day,found that statement ridiculous and self centered.
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Updated On: 2/27/17 at 11:03 AM
#18889th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 11:27am
bear88 said: "But if you want to fall back on the wisdom of Academy voters, we can go through their sorry history of picking the best films of the year."
Regardless of how I feel about the film the fact is that Moonlight won because it was the film the majority of Academy members voted for.
I'm not falling on the "wisdom" of Academy voters. They are the ones that work in the industry and they are the ones that cast the votes. This isn't the People's Choice Awards and we aren't always going to be in agreement with their choice(s).
I am not in agreement with you that "Moonlight" won for the reasons you are otherwise suggesting.
#18989th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 11:29am
bear88 said:
But you must be kidding if you think the Academy Award usually goes to the best film, or even the best film nominated. When it does, it's usually an accident.
Considering that "best film" is completely a matter of opinion, then yes, the Academy Award always goes to the best film, according to their subjective joint opinion.
#19089th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 12:45pm
It may be that Moonlight stands the test of time a lot better than La La Land. I've wondered that myself.
That has never been an indicating factor of Best Picture. Popularity and endurance have little to do with what is considered "best" by a panel of voters on the day they voted. Wizard of Oz, Citizen Kane, It's a Wonderful Life, The Ten Commandments, How the West Was Won, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, The Graduate, Fiddler on the Roof, Star Wars, Apocalypse Now, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., The Color Purple, Working Girl, Ghost, Beauty and the Beast, Fargo, The Sixth Sense, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, Brokeback Mountain, Avatar, Black Swan, Les Miserables...just a few examples of nominees that have arguably endured better than the respective Best Picture winners.
Last night's outcome was unexpected. I was speculating about the reasons why that might have happened. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you want to fall back on the wisdom of Academy voters, we can go through their sorry history of picking the best films of the year.
It's just the same sort of conspiracy theories we get every year when someone's personal fave didn't win. Their "sorry history" is a record of the majority opinion of the voters at a specific moment in time, not a record of your personal opinion at any given moment in time.
Considering that "best film" is completely a matter of opinion, then yes, the Academy Award always goes to the best film, according to their subjective joint opinion.
Exactly.
She said the "Arrtist" so I thought that is all the Arts. but my friend who is a nurse and helps people live every day,found that statement ridiculous and self centered.
Then you and your "friend" apparently didn't listen to what she had to say and took that one sentence out of context.
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Updated On: 2/27/17 at 12:45 PM
#19189th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 1:10pm
Donna Brazile involved with these envelopes? 
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#19289th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 4:27pm
Don't have the time or can even be bothered to read all the above BUT, forgive my ignorance.
I know she wrote the music for Waitress and now going to be in it, but I had never heard her sing before these awards.
And WOW ! Now THAT is how to present In Memoriam, and the song and singer-Perfection.
#19389th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 4:32pm
Petralicious said: "Gorlois said: If Isabelle Huppert had won Best Actress, the mistake with the card would have been noticed much sooner.
Isabelle was GODDESS! Putting to shame many or the younger starlets at 63!!!
It's a pity she couldn't have found a better fitting curtain----these's enough lace there to keep a friend of mine VERY happy !
"
#19489th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 4:54pm
I know she wrote the music for Waitress and now going to be in it, but I had never heard her sing before these awards.
She first hit it big ten years ago with this:
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sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#19589th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 5:02pm
From Variety
It just made it much more complicated,” Jenkins said. “The celebration is bound up now between our film, ‘La La Land’ and the Academy in a very complicated way. As somewhat of a Shakespearean tragedy, maybe is a bit more interesting,” he said.
“GMA” anchors pressed Horowitz for details on how he was informed of the mistake. Horowitz said “it was just confusion and chaos” on stage and “this slow, steady realization that something wasn’t right.”
Horowitz has earned kudos for his graceful handling of what had to be a crushing blow for the “La La Land” team.
Yep. no taint there.
NYadgal
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/04
#19689th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 5:13pm
Speaking of GMA anchors - that after-party show was a disaster!
(non GMA) co-host Anthony Anderson was yelling about conspiracies and acting like an idiot.
When the producers of 'Moonlight' came on set to be interviewed there wasn't enough room for all 4 of them on the one couch, so one of the producers went to try to sit on the couch that Lara and Anthony were sitting on. Anthony rudely stated that there wasn't room and that the producer was blocking his camera. The producer quietly said something about only being room for 3, and then went back and spent the interview on his knees next to the couch.
Where the hell were the directors of this mess? It was neither informative nor entertaining and I can't believe ABC allowed it.
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Updated On: 2/27/17 at 05:13 PM
#19789th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 5:34pm
Yep. no taint there.
Not the way you described as "they took it away from La La Land". That's not being insinuated and it doesn't read that way. Here is the full article. Horowitz told “GMA” in a telephone interview. “Those guys are my friends. I wanted to make sure they had their moment.” It sounds like you really want something insidious to come from this on the part of La La Land, though I'm not sure why.
Addie - That sounds awful. Who thought Anthony Anderson would be a good after-party Oscar host?!? I saw the last hour or so of the red carpet stuff and it was a mess as well. The stupid questions being fired at the celebrities to try and fill for time when the timings between teams weren't coordinated properly was like watching slo-mo car crashes from reruns of CHiPs.
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#19889th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 6:17pm
Mister Matt said: "I know she wrote the music for Waitress and now going to be in it, but I had never heard her sing before these awards.
She first hit it big ten years ago with this:
Thanks MM---I actually have heard this before but had no idea etc etc. I am sure she will boost sales for Waitress. I'd certainly go to listen to her.
"
10086sunset
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/8/16
#19989th Academy Awards Thread
Posted: 2/27/17 at 7:45pm
Apparently, over the weekend Dunaway and Beatty were fighting over who would announce the winner.
Beatty finally gave in and let Dunaway have it. If you watch the video, you can see her motioning for the card with her hands and commenting that he was going to kill her because he was talking so long.
When he gave her the envelope, she said "La La Land" as quickly as possible, not wanting Beatty to get the drop on her.
Little did she know he thought there could be something wrong. There's a reason Beatty's nickname around town is "The Pro."
As for Dunaway, happy she was the one who announced the incorrect winner. Shows you that in life, sometimes people get what they deserve. Nice to see karma come back around.
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