89th Academy Awards Thread — Page 8

If Isabelle Huppert had won Best Actress, the mistake with the card would have been noticed much sooner.

Why can't you just acknowledge that Isabelle Huppert looked great without having to turn it into some sort of competition with other actresses older or younger.

Everything isn't a competition sweetie.

Huppert looked fantastic - she put no one to shame.

Fergalicious, of all the posts to chastise Petra over... that's the one you pick? One in which she compliments a beautiful actress? Wow...

Anyway, it's been super interesting reading the coverage of the Best Picture debacle this morning. It's become clear that there are indeed two winner cards printed for each category, in two different suitcases on opposite sides of the stage. This means that Emma Stone's pointing out that she was holding her Best Actress card was certainly true—but that there was in fact another one in circulation. It's looking like the situation resulted possibly from Leo DiCaprio setting down the Best Actress card he had been holding, and Warren Beatty mistakenly picking that one up instead of Best Picture... either way, whoever should've been working all night to circumvent situations like that from happening in the first place is definitely out of a job this morning.

bear88, if La La Land had won Best Picture would there by any need to try to analyze and dissect it's win?

Is it because Moonlight was the gay black film that wasn't white enough/mainstream enough/happy-go-lucky enough to take the prize?

Basically what you're saying is the movie you were rooting for would have won under "normal" circumstance but because of "x", "y" and "z" Moonlight won instead?

I don't think so.

Moonlight won because it was clearly the better film to the Academy voters as was every other film that has won in that category.

There is no need to justify it's win.

I have never been a fan of the Occars. The ending was an embarrassment to PWC and I hope that the contract is voided.

Did Viola state "only profession." That gave me pause!

Moonlight won because it was clearly the better film to the Academy voters as was every other film that has won in that category.

CarlosAlberto, my personal preference has nothing to do with it. I was stating that to put my bias upfront. (It may be that Moonlight stands the test of time a lot better than La La Land. I've wondered that myself.)

But you must be kidding if you think the Academy Award usually goes to the best film, or even the best film nominated. When it does, it's usually an accident.

Last night's outcome was unexpected. I was speculating about the reasons why that might have happened. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you want to fall back on the wisdom of Academy voters, we can go through their sorry history of picking the best films of the year.

I definitely disagree with a couple of posters who say Moonlight's win is "tainted."

No, it's not. There was a screwup. That's not the Moonlight filmmakers' fault. If anything, they got screwed out of some of the joy of the triumph.

bear88 said: "But if you want to fall back on the wisdom of Academy voters, we can go through their sorry history of picking the best films of the year."

Regardless of how I feel about the film the fact is that Moonlight won because it was the film the majority of Academy members voted for.

I'm not falling on the "wisdom" of Academy voters. They are the ones that work in the industry and they are the ones that cast the votes. This isn't the People's Choice Awards and we aren't always going to be in agreement with their choice(s).

I am not in agreement with you that "Moonlight" won for the reasons you are otherwise suggesting.

It may be that Moonlight stands the test of time a lot better than La La Land. I've wondered that myself.

That has never been an indicating factor of Best Picture. Popularity and endurance have little to do with what is considered "best" by a panel of voters on the day they voted. Wizard of Oz, Citizen Kane, It's a Wonderful Life, The Ten Commandments, How the West Was Won, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, The Graduate, Fiddler on the Roof, Star Wars, Apocalypse Now, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., The Color Purple, Working Girl, Ghost, Beauty and the Beast, Fargo, The Sixth Sense, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, Brokeback Mountain, Avatar, Black Swan, Les Miserables...just a few examples of nominees that have arguably endured better than the respective Best Picture winners.

Last night's outcome was unexpected. I was speculating about the reasons why that might have happened. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you want to fall back on the wisdom of Academy voters, we can go through their sorry history of picking the best films of the year.

It's just the same sort of conspiracy theories we get every year when someone's personal fave didn't win. Their "sorry history" is a record of the majority opinion of the voters at a specific moment in time, not a record of your personal opinion at any given moment in time.

Considering that "best film" is completely a matter of opinion, then yes, the Academy Award always goes to the best film, according to their subjective joint opinion.

Exactly.

She said the "Arrtist" so I thought that is all the Arts. but my friend who is a nurse and helps people live every day,found that statement ridiculous and self centered.

Then you and your "friend" apparently didn't listen to what she had to say and took that one sentence out of context.

Updated On: 2/27/17 at 12:45 PM

Don't have the time or can even be bothered to read all the above BUT, forgive my ignorance.

I know she wrote the music for Waitress and now going to be in it, but I had never heard her sing before these awards.

And WOW ! Now THAT is how to present In Memoriam, and the song and singer-Perfection.

Updated On: 2/27/17 at 04:27 PM

I know she wrote the music for Waitress and now going to be in it, but I had never heard her sing before these awards.

She first hit it big ten years ago with this:

Speaking of GMA anchors - that after-party show was a disaster!

(non GMA) co-host Anthony Anderson was yelling about conspiracies and acting like an idiot.

When the producers of 'Moonlight' came on set to be interviewed there wasn't enough room for all 4 of them on the one couch, so one of the producers went to try to sit on the couch that Lara and Anthony were sitting on. Anthony rudely stated that there wasn't room and that the producer was blocking his camera. The producer quietly said something about only being room for 3, and then went back and spent the interview on his knees next to the couch.

Where the hell were the directors of this mess? It was neither informative nor entertaining and I can't believe ABC allowed it.

Updated On: 2/27/17 at 05:13 PM

Mister Matt said: "I know she wrote the music for Waitress and now going to be in it, but I had never heard her sing before these awards.

She first hit it big ten years ago with this:

Thanks MM---I actually have heard this before but had no idea etc etc. I am sure she will boost sales for Waitress. I'd certainly go to listen to her.

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