89th Academy Awards Thread — Page 7

What a terribly odd moment- and kudos to the La La Land crew for handling it well.

That said.

YAYYYYYYYYY MOONLIGHT!!!!! I can't think of a movie more deserving.

I strongly believe that the academy should speak up and award both films Best Picture. They are both truly deserving, brilliant films. I'm very happy to see Moonlight win, but I feel really awful for La La Land. They had just thanked their families and then they had the award taken back. As an artist myself, that must be a really horrible experience. It was, however, really exciting and hopeful to see Moonlight win.

Also, Denzel was robbed.

That was absolutely insane. Can't wait to rewatch it all again tomorrow.

Updated On: 2/27/17 at 12:45 AM

Sh!t happens. I knew the minute they announced that Beatty and Dunaway would be announcing Best Picture that they would somehow screw it up. LOL! I wouldn't have wanted to be within 10 miles of Dunaway after the show. I can only imagine the backstage drama! But it was a historical moment, nonetheless. Not only the screw up, but a black film with a gay theme winning Best Picture! Couldn't be more perfect right now! Too bad for LA LA LAND, but they won six. And having just seen MOONLIGHT earlier today, I have to say, it deserved it. Kudos to MOONLIGHT!

Updated On: 2/27/17 at 12:47 AM

Y'know, looking at the clip again, it does actually seem like Warren Beatty knew something was up...saying "the Academy Award...for best picture (?)..." looking awkardly offstage, before shoving the envelope at Faye -allowing her to take the fall...the dirty rat.

Another day in the life of Faye Dunaway.

icecreambenjamin said: "I strongly believe that the academy should speak up and award both films Best Picture. They are both truly deserving, brilliant films. I'm very happy to see Moonlight win, but I feel really awful for La La Land. They had just thanked their families and then they had the award taken back. As an artist myself, that must be a really horrible experience."

Yeah, I'm sure it sucked for them, but it also hauled off with the most trophies of the night. And more importantly, it didn't win- a mistake on someone's part doesn't mean they should get a pity Oscar.

wonderfulwizard11 said: "icecreambenjamin said: "I strongly believe that the academy should speak up and award both films Best Picture. They are both truly deserving, brilliant films. I'm very happy to see Moonlight win, but I feel really awful for La La Land. They had just thanked their families and then they had the award taken back. As an artist myself, that must be a really horrible experience."

Yeah, I'm sure it sucked for them, but it also hauled off with the most trophies of the night. And more importantly, it didn't win- a mistake on someone's part doesn't mean they should get a pity Oscar.



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I agree. The situation sucks big time, but a pity award is not needed. Both parties I feel bad for. La La Land has to live with hearing they lost after being announced the winner. And now Moonlight will have to hear that the wrong winner was announced before they were announced the winner instead of basking in the full glory of their win.

But it's not like they read it wrong either. Why would there even be a card that says la la Land won?

that was crazy. i loved moonlight but still thought LLL was a better film. so happy for Emma Stone!

As it turns out, there are two briefcases with identical cards that go to the show. Each accountant has a briefcase. According to reports, the producers realized there were 2 unopened cards left stating the best picture winner and no cards for the best actress winner. Why they would risk having both cards out for each category is beyond me. It would make sense to have one set out and the other set still in the other briefcase. Whoever handed the wrong card to Beatty messed up big time. Or maybe he grabbed the wrong one. But he clearly knew something was wrong.

swanjewel said: "As it turns out, there are two briefcases with identical cards that go to the show. Each accountant has a briefcase. According to reports, the producers realized there were 2 unopened cards left stating the best picture winner and no cards for the best actress winner. Why they would risk having both cards out for each category is beyond me. It would make sense to have one set out and the other set still in the other briefcase. Whoever handed the wrong card to Beatty messed up big time. Or maybe he grabbed the wrong one. But he clearly knew something was wrong.



That sounds like the most logical explanation. I just posted the pic showing Beatty holding the envelope clearly marked "Actress In A Leading Role". Emma Stone had the first one in her possession.

Here is a story about why there are 2 briefcases of envelopes and the security they go through to deliver them to the theater.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-38923750

It figures. The year I'm rooting for the front-runner, the ode-to-Hollywood movie to win is the year Academy voters go another direction. My guesses as to why...

1) Moonlight emerged as the lone challenger but was able to skate under the radar. Have you read any critical reassessments of the film, pointing out flaws or things that didn't work? I haven't seen anything. The film didn't get the sort of attention that usually accompanies two-horse races, such as Boyhood and Birdman. I think it benefited from a disinclination to criticize the only serious Oscar contender ever that focused on a gay, black man.

2) The La La Land backlash. I underestimated this, It was an imperfect movie, but ever since its Golden Globes sweep and 14 Oscar nominations, the film's every flaw has been attacked, including its slightly dicey racial aspects (overstated in my view but definitely there). That made it more vulnerable to a film like Moonlight. It got to the point where even the film's fans felt the need to point out its flaws.

3) Everybody loves an underdog, and Moonlight was a particularly appealing one. My second choice of the nominated films I've seen was Hell or High Water, a strongly-written film set in West Texas that touched not so subtly on the fact that its white small-town characters were losing their way of life. But it never had a chance to win anything and was lucky to be nominated. It was a Red State film. Which brings me to...

4) Donald Trump was elected. I thought Academy voters would have a tough time resisting a well-made, well-reviewed valentine to Hollywood. But La La Land's escapism started to seem a bit too fluffy compared to a film like Moonlight with Trump in the White House. If Hillary Clinton had been elected, I think La La Land wins. Trump's election changed the dynamics in a way that damaged that film and gave Academy voters a chance to cast a proxy vote against Trump.

5) Moonlight's fans really, really loved it. Maybe I will too when I see it another time. But it had a base of support that thought it was wonderful and soul-stirring. Just look on this thread. Nobody said La La Land was thieir favorite film of all time, but people say that sort of thing about Moonlight. I discounted the giddy reaction in the audience to Moonlight's win at the Golden Globes. I was wrong.