Force awaken spoilers- Page 2

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 12/20/15 at 10:39pm

hork said: "Guys, Elfuhbuh's comment about Mark Hamill was a joke. You'll get it when you see the movie."

Thank you!

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 12/20/15 at 11:51pm

Some people are so full of themselves and s h i t**, that I wanted to wipe the screen clear to keep reading! 

Updated On: 12/20/15 at 11:51 PM

[adamgreer]

Posted: 12/21/15 at 9:47am

This discussion about Mark Hamill's talents as an actor, and his role in this film, is infinitely amusing. Once you see the film, you'll understand why!

[Musical Master]

Posted: 12/21/15 at 4:47pm

He doesn't say a word and already it's a powerful performance. The movie was freakin wonderful though, a 4.5 out of 5 in my book.

[Kad]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 9:51am

I saw it last night and thought it was a fun, wildly entertaining film. I could have easily watched Episode 8 immediately afterward.

I appreciated the fact Abrams dropped us right into the story without much explanation (or any tedious talk about taxing trade routes), though on the flipside I was distracted by questions like, "What exactly is the First Order? How does it exist if there is also a new galactic Republic? Since the First Order is a giant military force headed by space Nazis, why does the Republic need to covertly support a Resistance against them?"

A friend of mine who is much more well-versed in this stuff (and I thought I was well-versed) gave me a satisfying explanation- but none of that is in the film.

The new characters are so full of character and easy to root for, and Kylo Ren makes a compelling villain (and it was satisfying to see Rey kick his ass).

Also: Oscar Isaac can get it.

[Petralicious]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 10:31am

I for one person refuse to watch this racist movie.

 

At least according to Melissa Harris Perry. Some people will find racism in the weather. Amazing that she is on a major network.

 

 

The part where he was totally a black guy, whose name was basically James Earl Jones … While he was black he was terrible and bad, awful and used to cut off white men’s hand, and didn’t actually claim his son. But as soon as he claims his son, goes over to the good, takes off his mask and he is white — yes, I have many feelings about that.”

http://hiphollywood.com/2015/12/3-reasons-why-melissa-harris-perrys-star-wars-rant-was-totally-out-of-line/

Updated On: 12/22/15 at 10:31 AM

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 11:20am

 

Kad wants to get inside Llewyn Davis.

[hork]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 12:01pm

Kad said:
I appreciated the fact Abrams dropped us right into the story without much explanation (or any tedious talk about taxing trade routes),

 

Where is there talk about taxing trade routes? It's mentioned in the opening crawl of The Phantom Menace, but never actually talked about.

 

though on the flipside I was distracted by questions like, "What exactly is the First Order? How does it exist if there is also a new galactic Republic? Since the First Order is a giant military force headed by space Nazis, why does the Republic need to covertly support a Resistance against them?"

 

It's a big galaxy. The Republic doesn't cover everything, and didn't even before the Empire. But yeah, I would have liked some more information about them. There were a lot of unanswered questions due to lazy writing.

 

Also: Oscar Isaac can get it.

 

I'm hoping for a Finn-Poe love story. They seem really happy to see each other.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 3:29pm

Saw it yesterday.  A love letter to 1st generation Star Wars fans.  Mirroring the plot of the original film really didn't bother me much at all.  Quite the opposite.  It boosted the nostalgia of the original while introducing something new.  I thought it hit a balance of appeasement while simultaneously breaking into something new without the unsettling convoluted political plotlines and annoying cutesy characters meant to entertain the children when they can't follow the story (which inadvertently flummoxed the adults as well).  It may have been the ultimate rim job to the die-hard fans of the original trilogy, but I would say it's mostly deserved.  And as one of those fans, I enjoyed it tremendously.

Updated On: 12/22/15 at 03:29 PM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 5:03pm

What's with the Daniel Craig cameo?

I was very pleased with myself when I recognized his voice, though it was puzzling.

Didn't spot Frank Oz or Ewan McGregor, though.

[Taryn]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 5:13pm

What's with the Daniel Craig cameo?
I was very pleased with myself when I recognized his voice, though it was puzzling.

Let's be real.  If I were famous or had any history with Abrams, I too would be calling him up even to appear in the background with a Stormtrooper helmet on.

Didn't spot Frank Oz or Ewan McGregor, though.

Ewan's cameo was only vocal: his voice was apparently one of several speaking to Rey during her vision.

[Kad]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 5:31pm

Franz Oz apparently recorded new lines as Yoda for Rey's vision that were not used; clips of his performance from Empire were used instead.

Updated On: 12/22/15 at 05:31 PM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 7:43pm

Was there an actual reason for Kylo to wear the headgear, or was it just an homage to his grandfather?

 

Given the thread title, I guess there's no need to use the spoiler toggle, right, but just to be safe...

 

 

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Also, how big a shock was Han Solo's demise? Had that been anticipated?

 

Updated On: 12/22/15 at 07:43 PM

[sabrelady]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 8:29pm

Oh yes- there really wasn't anywhere else for the character to go to complete his arc.

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 9:25pm

Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die all the way back in The Empire Strikes Back. (The carbonite plot device was put in just in case Ford didn't want to return to the series, since he wasn't bound under a contract and could have easily left the series whenever he wanted; they would've just explained it away as Han Solo not surviving the freezing had Ford decided not to come back.)

I imagine that, based on his attitude towards the series over the years, Ford wasn't too keen on coming back unless something fatal happened to his character, so in a way I suppose Han's death was necessary in convincing Ford to be in this movie at all.

[sabrelady]

Posted: 12/22/15 at 10:06pm

Star Wars is the preeminent example of something know as "space opera" a term coined by Wilson "Bob" Tucker ( SMOOOOTH!) as a link to the old horse operas of silent films w    clichéd and formulaic western tropes.: a "hacky, grinding, stinking, outworn, spaceship yarn" was his definition and I think Ford felt the same way  about SW. I don't think Ford ever believed that the thing would become  what it has. 

On the other hand, as my mother usta say" Tchaikovsky may  be schmaltz- but it's GOOD schmaltz!"

Same thing w Star Wars.

At least the character did grow and his end was part of his redemption.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 10:21am

I'm one of those who sorta kinda sat through all of them but never felt that engaged, only mildly diverted. Yet I found the emotional undertones in this film so respectful of the audience's expectations and needs that I teared up, unexpectedly, several times.  Two of the original three's entrances are beautifully staged, one pure theater (almost blank screen, in steps the star).  That understanding of the audience's emotional investment makes the movie very dear for mysterious reasons.  I didn't care that I didn't really understand the first 40 minutes.  Once we're back in the hands of the iconic characters, something magical happens. 

 

In a way, it's a sci-fi BOYHOOD, no?  Actors aging in real time, with beautiful results.

Updated On: 12/23/15 at 10:21 AM

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 11:34am

How is this.I saw the original and none of the rest. I may be the only one on the planet who has zero interest in this hysteria.

[Kad]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 11:52am

If you didn't have sufficient interest after seeing A New Hope to see the rest, I'm not sure this would be any more captivating for you.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 3:01pm

Mr Roxy said: "How is this.I saw the original and none of the rest. I may be the only one on the planet who has zero interest in this hysteria.

 

"

 

What is with you thinking that if its popular that one: it's hysteria/hype/overblown -- whatever and two: that you are above anything "popular"?  You sound like a 12 year old emo kid.    

 

If you have no interest, then why even open the thread, yet alone add to it?

 

[Kad]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 3:08pm

How else will we know he doesn't care?!

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 3:56pm

To be honest I was hoping snoke was jar jar.

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 5:05pm

Call_me_jorge said: "To be honest I was hoping snoke was jar jar."

 

But he is!!!

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 8:29pm

Wait if jar jar is snoke then who is the supreme leader?

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 12/23/15 at 10:38pm

Still Jar Jar.