Star Wars The Last Jedi

Has anybody on here seen this? I just got home from it and I am still speechless. It was just an all round amazing film. I was laughing, crying, trying hide under my coat for the entire movie. The acting was amazing and visuals were stunning. I can’t wait for 2019.

I just have to say Laura Dern was by far my favorite part of this film acting wise. She was just stunning in her role, even if it was small.

I don't think I loved it as much as you did, but I was thoroughly entertained. Yes, visually it was stunning, and there were enough twists and turns to keep it surprising and plenty of hold your breath moments.



However, I definitely do not sure your feelings about Dern.

I really liked it and it was bittersweet knowing it was Carrie Fisher's last movie. I thought Mark Hamill was the best part of it.

The Casino sequence makes explicit what has been only moderately implicit since the prequels: that the Empire/Rebellion squabble takes place in one galaxy, in a much larger universe that frankly does not care. Establishing that the warmongers exist as a third and nebulous force outside the army versus army conflict may not impact the plot much in the short term, but it certainly opens up the scope of the story and its morality into a shade of grey it didn't seem enthusiastic about exploring before.

Also: kudos to Hamill for growing as a live performer. Hamill has spent his whole career essentially playing two roles, classic flavor Luke and variations of his voiceover role as The Joker. Here, he steps away from his two "types" to play a third figure, and he does it masterfully (even though it's just a new version of his classic role).

I enjoyed it a lot but hasn't every movie been that they have some massive weapon, and the good guys know its one crazy vulnerability? And it's so obvious even the janitor knows how to bring it down?! And once they introduce that there are arms dealers selling equipment to both sides, doesn't that just mean the Resistance isn't buying the better available weapons? But as soon as they're in trouble they tell people, oh don't worry, you'll be rewarded handsomely if you help us...

I was very dissapointed in this movie, to be honest. I hate that plot points and characters were set up one way in "Force Awakens" and then this writer/director decided "Nah....I wanna do my own thing." You can't try to start at ground zero in the second part of a trilogy. Plus, the Casino planet/Rose side plot had no point being in the movie. It's like the writer/director didn't know what to do with Finn so he kept him far away from everyone else on his own quest which amounted to nothing. Snoke and Phasma were wasted and I love how Rey went to Luke to train and learn more about "what is inside" her, but the only training she got was "Reach out." Sadly, this is one of my least favorite of the franchise.

The casino planet served no point to the plot of the movie. They went there to find the code breaker with the flower lapel to stop the tracker but all it did was show greedy people treating animals and people poorly and they randomly picked up a guy who says he could break the code. Come to find out.......nothing happened with that subplot. They got caught.....the tracker was never stopped.....the guy they found got paid.....rose and Finn escaped. Yeah it set up the kid at the end using the force to grab a broom but what other purpose was there for it? It showed what's going in another part of the galaxy but it took time away from more important things in the story.

In regards to what was set up that this movie ignored/changed from "Force Awakens" = Snoke was set up to be the big bad like Palpatine in "Force Awakens." Even in this movie he stated that he set up the whole force melding between Rey and Kylo and he was starting to turn Kylo while being trained by Luke. But he gets killed by Kylo before anything is established as to the how/why/when. Also, if it's true that he was the one connecting them.......how did they continue to do it after he dies? Phasma was also set up for something (or so it seemed) but nothing happens with her. Both characters should never have been introduced if nothing was to come of them. They could have just mentioned Snoke in passing as to who put Kylo on this path.

Ray's parents are big one. In a way it's cool that she came from nothing but at the same time the first movie and parts of this one built it up the "Who are her parents" so much as to how she could be so powerful in the force and seem to know and do things without any type of training. What was the point of her touching the lightsaber in "Force Awakens" and have Kanobi talk to her if there is no connection? Why him?

Also, and one of my biggest issues, is that everyone (minus Luke and maybe Po) ends the movie in the exact same spot they started. There is no character development in any of them. Kylo is still conflicted, Rey has learned nothing new, Finn was on a side adventure the entire time and learned what? That there are greedy people out there and there is no good in self sacrifice? Which by the way is a big theme in the Star Wars. Kanobi sacrificed himself for Luke.........Vader sacrificed himself to stop Palpatine from killing his son......the resistance fighters sacrificed themselves to save the galaxy from the First Order......Holdo sacrifices herself to save the last few ships remaining trying to reach the planet.........Luke sacrificed himself at the end to give a distraction for everyone to escape? But then Rose makes that statement that it's not meaningful? I'm glad Finn didn't die but why make that speech when Holdo JUST sacrificed herself and Luke is about to?



I know I rambled a lot of but those are my thoughts. I may have to see it a second time to get more out of it but yeah..........

I enjoyed it a lot, though not as much as the last one. I'm more of a casual fan, and to be honest I didn't know precisely what was happening at any given time...but it didn't matter one bit.

I assumed that that there will be more reveals about Rey's parentage - after the last one, I thought she was Luke's daughter, and during this one I got the feeling that Ben & her were twins (echoing Luke & Leia)...the "parents" who traded her or whatever must simply have been tasked to look after her...there just has to be more to the story - but like I said, I really don't know what I'm talking about. I have a hard time remembering all the names, who's supposed to be in love with whom (Rey & Finn? Finn & Rose? Ben & Rey?). I definitely missed Harrison Ford's sardonic presence.

It was weird when Laura Dern said "Godspeed". Isn't that essentially just another way of saying "May The Force Be With You"? I thought that the Force more or less was God?

Edit - I just realized I forgot to mention how pretty Oscar Isaac is.

Finally, I got an unexpected lump in my throat when the tribute to "our Princess" came up during the end credits. Such a loss.

Updated On: 12/21/17 at 06:33 PM

Wearing it? As a connection/homage to his grandfather. (My assumption)

Stopped? After Snoke ridiculed him for it and ordered him to take it off, his rage over being put in his place made him destroy it.

Can Jedi just come back as ghosts now?

Sometimes....

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Oh, right. Thanks, I forgot about Obi Wan.

I'm a little sketchy on the first trilogy - I did see the re-tooled versions years ago, but I was holding out for the original CGI-less presentations before re-watching. I guess I'll be waiting a while, though...I thought they might re-appear when Disney bought the franchise. "

There's a few revived whispers that now that Disney is buying Fox and will gain full control over distribution rights for the original movies that we may be able to see the original versions again sometime in the near future. Of course, Lucas claimed that the original, unaltered negatives no longer exist, but who knows what some dedicated folks might be able to turn up if they really try.