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2018 TONY Awards Snubs

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#252018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:14am

Since when are awards based in the amount of preparation? They are about results. Just because they sweat more, or changed more has nothing to do with excellence. Do you want to award the runner that sweats or the one that wins?


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#262018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:27am

Really just Denise Gough and Ethan Slater. I have this slight curiosity if an actor's previous fame (more so on television and film) 'enhances' our perception of their performance. While both Tony Shaloub and Laurie Metcalf are giving splendid performances, I really thought they felt like the expected "let's give a celebrity an award", a la Catherine Zeta-Jones a few years ago with A Little Night Music.

Even though its not a snub, I'm surprised The Band's Visit did win as much as it did. It was always my frontrunner, but was expecting it to get unjustly snubbed in Book and Direction.

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#272018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 11:35am

CallMeAl2 said: "You can be snubbed in the nomination process, but in my opinion on awards night "not winning" isn't a snub. If you were nominated you were recognized and honored."

Agreed! Furthermore, they don't publish the % voting results of each category so we'll never know if it was a close race or a clear frontrunner win.

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#282018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 11:38am

Denise Gough and Ethan Slater for me. Happy for Bands visit though.

#292018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 11:54am

i think it was Michael Arden if there even was one.  From what I've heard Hal Prince set most of the ground work for the Bands Visit Before he left the project.  Michael's work should have been recognized.

#302018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 11:55am

i think it was Michael Arden if there even was one.  From what I've heard Hal Prince set most of the ground work for the Bands Visit Before he left the project.  Michael's work should have been recognized.

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quizking101
#312018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:06pm

In the "let's give a celebrity an award" argument, in the case of Laurie Metcalf and Tony Shalhoub, you minimize that these actors have bona-fide theatre credits. Both actors got their career starts in theatre, and then have since been able to have a genuinely astounding career renaissance in coming back to Broadway after careers in television (that are still ongoing). Each actor has also been nominated for more Tony Awards than many of their contemporaries in the theatre itself (Metcalf has 5 nods with 2 wins, Shalhoub has 4 nods with 1 win).

While I feel there may have been equalizing performances from others in their respective categories (I surely had my money on Gough over Metcalf, more than Shalhoub over Slater), don't use the "celebrity" argument as justification for the award. It's tired and flimsy.


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#322018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:10pm

At the end of the day, Laurie Metcalfe won because she is Laurie Metcalfe. It was a politically biased move by the Voters, as was the entire night as they exiled every new musical (as they always do) except one. Denise should've won this without a doubt, and that's why she's my biggest snub of the night. (And yes, I've seen both performances.)

greenifyme2
#332018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:12pm

I think Anthony Boyle carries that show and was rooting for him. Nathan’s speech was nice though, it was sweet he got choked up at the end.

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#342018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:16pm

oh-bwayhereicome said: "Really just Denise Gough and Ethan Slater. I have this slight curiosity if an actor's previous fame (more so on television and film) 'enhances' our perception of their performance. While both Tony Shaloub and Laurie Metcalf are giving splendid performances, I really thought they felt like the expected "let's give a celebrity an award", a la Catherine Zeta-Jones a few years ago with A Little Night Music.

Even though its not a snub, I'm surprisedThe Band's Visitdid win as much as it did. It was always my frontrunner, but was expecting it to get unjustly snubbed in Book and Direction.
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Catherine Zeta Jones won the Tony because there was absolutely no competition that year. 

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#352018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:25pm

Sherie René Scott gave the best female performance that season.

BroadwayAndSports
#362018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 4:20pm

The #1 major snub by far was not giving Ethan Slater Best Actor. I loved The Band's Visit and Tony Shalhoub was phenomenal. But he left the show months ago and barely sings in it. Slater is carrying an entire show on his back. If he's not stellar and lovable, the entire thing collapses. Love Shalhoub and TBV but Slater was robbed for sure.

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#372018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 4:44pm

Ethan Slater
Ethan Slater
Ethan Slater
Ethan Slater
Ethan Slater

:P


Also Spongebob for Sound Design.
Tina Laudeu or Michael Arden for Direction
Gavin Lee or Norbert Butz Leo for Supporting Actor

Oh and Ethan Slater

natashalost
#382018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/11/18 at 4:49pm

CoercedBull said: "When I am old and grey, I will still be grumbling about Marianne Elliott not winning best director."

THE ONLY SNUB OF THE EVENING. 

Wayman_Wong
#392018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 12:25am

''Catherine Zeta Jones won the Tony because there was absolutely no competition that year''

Coulldn't agree less. Zeta-Jones and Montego Glover (''Memphis'' ) tied for Best Actress in a Musical … at both the Outer Critics Circle and the Drama Desk. To me, Glover should've won the Tony, too. Whereas Zeta-Jones had only one notable solo in ''A Little Night Music,'' Glover belted a number of showstoppers in her show, like ''Colored Woman.'' And she did it flawlessly. As opposed to Zeta-Jones who struggled with ''Send in the Clowns'' on the Tony telecast, with her head swiveling back and forth like a gyroscope. Glover was robbed. To me, the Tony voters were blinded by celebrity and picked a star with a bigger name, but a lesser talent.   

In that 2010 Tonys, voters made the same mistake with Featured Actress in a Play: choosing the movie star (Scarlett Johansson) over the seasoned Broadway pros (Rosemary Harris and Jan Maxwell).

Updated On: 6/12/18 at 12:25 AM

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#402018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 2:44am

Marianne Elliot 100%. I was gobsmacked. Although, Harry Potter and Angels in America are both technical marvels. I think Elliot went above and beyond. It's a tough call, but I hate the staircases and luggage motif of Harry Potter. It looks cheap for such a big show. 

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#412018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 7:10am

My list is too long. 


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#422018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 8:04am

Not a snub, but Bands Visits direction was poor in my mind. I feel they could have done more with what they were given

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#432018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 9:22am

Also not really a snub, but I wish Ethan Slater would have won for Best Actor in a Musical over Tony Shalhoub.

Shalhoub is a fine actor, but based on the physicality, character, and vocals required for Spongebob, I think Slater deserved it more than Shalhoub. (Similar to the reasons that Jim Dale won for Barnum in 1980.)

Not a Spongebob "stan" (huh... new word I never knew existed 'til today), but c'mon... Give the kid a break, and credit where credit is due. wink

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#442018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 9:28am

Let me just say, Ethan Slater gives a lovely performance, but he's definitely playing a character instead of completely living it. Shalhoub was able to really beautifully create a human being onstage. I think that's why he won. It's a great, nuanced performance. The voters preferred the more nuanced performance.

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#452018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 9:57am

GeorgeandDot said: "Let me just say, Ethan Slater gives a lovely performance, but he's definitely playing a character instead of completely living it. Shalhoub was able to really beautifully create a human being onstage. I think that's why he won. It's a great, nuanced performance. The voters preferred the more nuanced performance."

You make a good point. Also, the voters obviously had house seats for all the shows. For someone sitting in rear mezz at Band's Visit or balcony at Spongebob, it would be hard to see Shalhoub's performance well but it would be easier to see Slater's dancing/moving/jumping all the while singing on stage. For this award I still think the actor should be able to sing/dance/act but that's my opinion. I'm glad though that they showed those closeups of Tony Shalhoub on TV as from that close I can see how Tony voters were swayed by his performance.

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#462018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 10:22am

GeorgeandDot said: "Let me just say, Ethan Slater gives a lovely performance, but he's definitely playing a character instead of completely living it. "

Of course I agree w/you about Shalhoub, but I would disagree that Slater isn't "living" his role as Spongebob just as much as Shalhoub in The Band's Visit.

For me, when thinking about "living", or inhabiting a role, it's important to consider the world the character inhabits as well. IMO, Slater inhabits The Sponge and the world of Bikini Bottom (and his friends in that world, etc.) as deeply as Shalhoub - they're just two, completely different worlds.

I think it's easy to neglect how much work Slater is contributing to that character when the world of Bikini Bottom and its inhabitants are cartoons. It's almost inherent that his work shouldn't be viewed as respectfully (kind of like how some folks view Opera vs. Musical Theater).

I agree that Shalhoub created (as you say) "a human being" beautifully - but Slater created The Sponge equally as well, in his particular world, both emotionally and physically. That additional physicality, and the singing as well, tip my vote in favor of Slater.

Again, I harken back to Jim Dale and Barnum, but I'm happy for Shalhoub and The Band's Visit. I also know (or at least hope) that Slater will have additional nominations in the future.

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#472018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 2:36pm

I don't really think there were any major snubs, except possibly Denise Gough. That said, I know more than one person that saw her "People, Places, and Things" performance and thought they were very similar. Maybe some Tony voters though the same way.




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#482018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 2:56pm

Ethan Slater would have been my choice for Actor (Musical). Either him or Hadden-Paton. I would've also chosen Henry over Shaloub. Not that Tony wasn't great.

I would also have chosen any of the Supporting Actor (Musical) nominees over Stachel, minus Gemingniani. Again, he was terrific with what he had, but the others impressed me more, for various reasons.

Nathan Lane was a fantastic Roy Cohn, but I agree that Boyle was superior.

For the technical awards, I would have given set design to MFL (Higgins's house alone is a marvel), and costume design to OOTI (the repurposed garbage was a masterstroke).

I'm sure there were other choices I didn't agree with, but those stand out the most.

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#492018 TONY Awards Snubs
Posted: 6/12/18 at 4:19pm

No way was Boyle superior to Lane's Cohn.


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