With lots of Tony threads and predictions on specific races, I figured there should be a general predictions thread. I’m sure there was one, but I couldn’t dig deep enough to find it. Here’s some rough predix to start off. Some reaches, and probably more hopedicting than I’d like to think, but like I said, they’re rough.
Play
Musical
Play Revival
Musical Revival
Actor in a Play
Actress in a Play
Actor in a Musical
Actress in a Musical
Featured Actor in a Play
Featured Actress in a Play
Featured Actor in a Musical
Featured Actress in a Musical
Direction of a Play
Direction of a Musical
Book of a Musical
Original Score
I'm seeing Mother Play in a few weeks, and avoiding the thread until then. Can someone indicate whether Celia Keenan-Bolger is likely to go Lead or Featured?
I ask because there's a very real chance that Lead Actress in a Play doesn't meet the threshold for an automatic 5 nominees. They need 9 eligible performers, right? So right now I count (in no particular order)
1. Sarah Paulson
2. Jessica Lange
3. Rachel McAdams
4. Laura Bell Bundy
5. Amy Ryan
6. Betsy Aidem
7. Laurie Metcalf
8. Tatiana Maslany
I'm thinking that both Stereophonic women will go featured, though I suppose they could try to bump Pidgeon up to lead. And the role of Sonya in Uncle Vanya has historically been considered supporting, so Allison Pill likely won't be in this category.
So that's why I ask about Celia Keenan-Bolger. If she's more of a supporting role, I think we're looking at 4 nominees in Lead -- unless I'm missing someone?
Jeff Tupolski said: "Book of a Musical
Original Score
Many of these of are pretty good guesses, but these last two I doubt. Book for Illinoise would be a stretch, and may go to a Suffs or even Outsiders. I think with a season without a breakout score (or show), Stereophonic for Score.
I am thinking Mother Play will take that spot you have for Mary Jane
Jeff Tupolski said: "With lots of Tony threads and predictions on specific races, I figured there should be a general predictions thread. I’m sure therewas one, but I couldn’t dig deep enough to find it. Here’s some rough predix to start off. Some reaches, and probably more hopedicting than I’d like to think, but like I said, they’re rough.
Play
Musical
Play Revival
Musical Revival
Actor in a Play
Actress in a Play
Actor in a Musical
Actress in a Musical
Featured Actor in a Play
Featured Actress in a Play
Featured Actor in a Musical
Featured Actress in a Musical
Direction of a Play
Direction of a Musical
Book of a Musical
Original Score
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I feel like Water for Elephants is going to end up doing a lot better than a lot of us are expecting. Comparatively, it ended up being one of the better received shows (not a high bar this year, but still) and folks like Rick Elice and Jessica Stone are very beloved in the industry. That should be enough to land it in Best Musical and potentially even Book, Score and Direction, in addition to the design awards.
Skip James for Supporting Actress in a Musical - replace with Iman, Collela Lewis or Bean.
O'Hara over Moon in Leading Actress.
Eli Gelb (Stereophonic) in Supporting Actor of a Play with Brill.
Stereophonic for score.
BJR said: “Many of these of are pretty good guesses, but these last two I doubt.Book for Illinoise would be a stretch, and may go to a Suffs or even Outsiders. I think with a season without a breakout score (or show), Stereophonic for Score."
Yeah, I won’t lie, those are my biggest stretches. Illinoise is basically just me being optimistic that the most acclaimed show can overcome the lack of dialogue against a crop of mediocre books. If it doesn’t take off on Broadway the way I hope it does, then I’ll probably swap it out.
I did think of Stereophonic for the win. I’d love to see it, and think the music is integral and praised enough for it to happen in this open field. But I decided an actual musical winning was playing it safer and picked a closed one that I still think stands above those expected to be running in June. But it’s very far from set in stone, I could change to Stereophonic by tonight.
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I think you guys are missing Zoe Kazan for Doubt as Featured Actress in a Play...
JoeW4 said: "I'm seeing Mother Play in a few weeks, and avoiding the thread until then. Can someone indicate whether Celia Keenan-Bolger is likely to go Lead or Featured?
I ask because there's a very real chance that Lead Actress in a Play doesn't meet the threshold for an automatic 5 nominees. They need 9 eligible performers, right? So right now I count (in no particular order)
1. Sarah Paulson
2. Jessica Lange
3. Rachel McAdams
4. Laura Bell Bundy
5. Amy Ryan
6. Betsy Aidem
7. Laurie Metcalf
8. Tatiana Maslany
I'm thinking that both Stereophonic women will go featured, though I suppose they could try to bump Pidgeon up to lead. And the role of Sonya in Uncle Vanya has historically been considered supporting, so Allison Pill likely won't be in this category.
So that's why I ask about Celia Keenan-Bolger. If she's more of a supporting role, I think we're looking at 4 nominees in Lead -- unless I'm missing someone?"
Mother Play is a current blindspot for me, I don’t know where Celia belongs, but I’m guessing she’ll be put in Featured, whether it’s appropriate placement or not.
I put five because I use GoldDerby’s prediction center and although they haven’t yet expanded the field to five nominees, they have nine women listed as leads, with Anika Noni Rose rounding out the actresses you mentioned. I think Rose and Pill’s roles in Uncle Vanya have historically been nominated in both lead and supporting categories, so I’m not sure if they’ll be submitted where that site currently has them, but I’ll stick with the idea of nine eligible performances for now. If it winds up being just four nominees, then I’d take out McAdams.
Of course, with all the recent ties, it could still wind up being five nominees even if it’s less than nine contenders eligible. I’m sure we’re gonna see some ties again, but I decided to play by the official numbers for now. Since someone mentioned him though, I was very close to including Eli Gelb in a lineup of six here. Even then, Featured Actor is pretty hard to nail down this year. I’d be happy to see it expanded with all the great work eligible.
Here's my current predictions - likely to change after the reviews of this last slew of shows come out! I listed all my Musical predictions first then my Play predictions. I did not list all the individual names besides actors just for time's sake.
Best Musical
Hell's Kitchen
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Suffs
Water For Elephants
Revival of a Musical
Cabaret
Merrily We Roll Along
The Who's Tommy
The Wiz
Lead Actress in a Musical
Maleah Joi Moon, Hell's Kitchen
Kelli O'Hara, Days of Wine and Roses
Maryann Plunkett, The Notebook
Gayle Rankin, Cabaret
Shaina Taub, Suffs
Lead Actor in a Musical
Jonathan Groff, Merrily We Roll Along
Dorian Harewood, The Notebook
Brian D'Arcy James, Days of Wine and Roses
Eddie Redmayne, Cabaret
Chip Zien, Harmony
Featured Actress in a Musical
Krystal Joy Brown, Merrily We Roll Along
Nikki M. James, Suffs
Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer, Spamalot
Lindsay Mendez, Merrily We Roll Along
Bebe Neuwirth, Cabaret
Featured Actor in a Musical
Joshua Boone, The Outsiders
Brandon Victor Dixon, Hell's Kitchen
Paul Alexander Nolan, Water For Elephants
Daniel Radcliffe, Merrily We Roll Along
Steven Skybell, Cabaret
Original Score
Days of Wine and Roses
The Notebook
The Outsiders
Stereophonic
Suffs
Book of a Musical
Days of Wine and Roses
Hell's Kitchen
The Notebook
The Outsiders
Suffs
Direction of a Musical
Cabaret
Hell's Kitchen
Here Lies Love
Merrily We Roll Along
The Outsiders
Choreography
Cabaret
Hell's Kitchen
Illinoise
Water For Elephants
The Who's Tommy
Scenic Design of a Musical
Back to the Future
Cabaret
The Great Gatsby
Here Lies Love
Merrily We Roll Along
Costume Design of a Musical
Cabaret
The Great Gatsby
Here Lies Love
Merrily We Roll Along
The Who's Tommy
Lighting Design of a Musical
Back to the Future
Cabaret
The Great Gatsby
Here Lies Love
The Who's Tommy
Sound Design of a Musical
Cabaret
Hell's Kitchen
Merrily We Roll Along
The Outsiders
Suffs
Orchestrations
Days of Wine and Roses
The Great Gatsby
The Notebook
Suffs
The Who's Tommy
Best Play
Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Mother Play
Patriots
Prayer For the French Republic
Stereophonic
Revival of a Play
Appropriate
Purlie Victorious
Uncle Vanya
Lead Actress in a Play
Jessica Lange, Mother Play
Rachel McAdams, Mary Jane
Sarah Paulson, Appropriate
Amy Ryan, Doubt
Lead Actor in a Play
Steve Carell, Uncle Vanya
Leslie Odom Jr., Purlie Victorious
Jeremy Strong, An Enemy of the People
Michael Stuhlbarg, Patriots
Featured Actress in a Play
Francis Benhamou, Prayer for the French Republic
Celia Keenan-Bolger, Mother Play
Victoria Pedretti, An Enemy of the People
Sarah Pidegon, Stereophonic
Kara Young, Purlie Victorious
Featured Actor in a Play
Will Brill, Stereophonic
Michael Imperioli, An Enemy of the People
Will Keen, Patriots
Jay O. Sanders, Purlie Victorious
Corey Stoll, Appropriate
Direction of a Play
Appropriate
Patriots
Prayer for the French Republic
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
Scenic Design of a Play
Appropriate
The Cottage
I Need That
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
Costume Design of a Play
Appropriate
Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Prayer for the French Republic
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
Lighting Design of a Play
Appropriate
Doubt
Grey House
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
Sound Design of a Play
Appropriate
Grey House
Patriots
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
Nomination Totals
11 nominations: Cabaret
9 nominations: Merrily We Roll Along, Purlie Victorious, Stereophonic
8 nominations: Appropriate
7 nominations: Suffs
6 nominations: Hell's Kitchen, The Outsiders
5 nominations: Days of Wine and Roses, The Notebook, Patriots, The Who's Tommy
4 nominations: The Great Gatsby, Here Lies Love, Prayer for the French Republic
3 nominations: An Enemy of the People, Mother Play, Water For Elephants
2 nominations: Back to the Future, Doubt, Grey House, Illinoise, Jaja's African Hair Braiding, Uncle Vanya
1 nomination: The Cottage, Harmony, I Need That, Mary Jane, Spamalot, The Wiz
0 nominations: Gutenberg, The Heart of Rock 'n' Roll, How to Dance in Ohio, Lempicka, Once Upon a One More Time, The Shark is Broken
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BJR said: "Jeff Tupolski said: "Book of a Musical
Original Score
Many of these of are pretty good guesses, but these last two I doubt.Book for Illinoise would be a stretch, and may go to a Suffs or even Outsiders. I think with a season without a breakout score (or show), Stereophonic for Score."
I think Suffs had enough great reviews for the score to take that award before a play does, easily.
There is a lot of underestimation of Illinoise, Ricky Ubeda, Ben Cook, book and direction.. That should change Tuesday.
Eli Gelb.
The Days of Wine and Roses, Stereophonic, Here Lies Love etc etc scores are all better and more musically sophisticated than Suffs.
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CoffeeBreak said: "There is a lot of underestimation of Illinoise, Ricky Ubeda, Ben Cook, book and direction.. That should change Tuesday.
Eli Gelb.
The Days of Wine and Roses, Stereophonic, Here Lies Loveetc etc scores are allbetter and more musically sophisticatedthan Suffs."
I don't doubt that, but it's so rare for a closed show to win this award that I think the only from this century to do so was Bridges of Madison County, I will bet Shaina will likely get something for the show and score seems likely.
Jeff Tupolski said: "I put five because I use GoldDerby’s prediction center and although they haven’t yet expanded the field to five nominees,they have nine women listed as leads, withAnika Noni Rose rounding out the actresses you mentioned.I thinkRose and Pill’s roles in Uncle Vanya have historically been nominatedin both lead and supporting categories, so I’m not sure if they’ll besubmittedwhere that site currently has them, but I’ll stick with the idea of nine eligible performances for now. If it winds up being just four nominees, then I’d take out McAdams.
I see that Janet McTeer was nominated as Lead Actress Oliviers for playing Yelena in the 90s, so I'll give you that. But I wouldn't necessarily trust the Oliviers on category placement, nor would I trust Gold Derby. I would've thought that Yelena's status as a supporting role is fairly undeniable. Clearly that's not entirely the case, but even so, I'd be really surprised if the Tonys go for that ruling this year.
With a quick search on IBDB, the Lortel Archives, and the Wikipedia pages for those Olivier categories, I can't find a case where Sonya was nominated as a lead -- although my search obviously wasn't exhaustive. I actually think there's a much better case for calling Sonya the female lead of Uncle Vanya compared to Yelena, but i don't see the precedent there.
In any case, I sure hope McAdams isn't the one kicked out if it's only 4 nominees. Maybe a hot take, but for my money she gave the best performance in the category!
I don’t know if it’s much more extensive than this, but I remember the Oliviers also nominating Emily Watson as a lead for playing Sonya.
I’m surprised you think Yelena is an undeniably supporting role. The titular character steals the spotlight, but Vanya doesn’t really get much more focus than Yelena, Sonya, and Astrov.
I’m not sure where the show’s women will be pushed, and I’m not really giving the matter too much thought since I don’t think they’ll make the lineup in either category. But one is listed in lead on the site I use, so I’ll keep the number rounded up until it’s ruled otherwise.
do we lock these in now?
Best Musical
Hell's Kitchen
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Suffs
Water For Elephants
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I've been stubbornly holding on to a slot for Here Lies Love in my Best Musical lineup, but with the warm critical reception for Hell's Kitchen and Suffs I'm not sure what else to exclude. I'm assuming based on early word here that Illinoise is the frontrunner, and I'm fine with Lempicka being mainly a tech and performance contender, but I can't see fewer than two of The Outsiders, The Notebook, and Water For Elephants getting in. And who knows what the critics will say about The Great Gatsby and Heart of Rock and Roll?
Also, on the Play side of things, can I get some tips on who will be contenders from Stereophonic acting-wise? I've mostly seen praise for the show more broadly than singling out any individual performance in it.
ACL2006 said: "do we lockthese in now?
Best Musical
Hell's Kitchen
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Suffs
Water For Elephants"
I think it’s safe to lock in Illinoise and HK and pretty safe to lock in Suffs. I think one of either (or both) Outsiders and WoE could be knocked out by Wine & Roses, HLL, or a surprise nomination for Heart of Rock and Roll, if it manages to get positive reviews that match its very positive word of mouth. It’s been such a weird season, though, so who knows.
CoffeeBreak said: "There is a lot of underestimation of Illinoise, Ricky Ubeda, Ben Cook, book and direction.. That should change Tuesday.
Eli Gelb.
The Days of Wine and Roses, Stereophonic, Here Lies Loveetc etc scores are allbetter and more musically sophisticatedthan Suffs."
That may be true but Suffs is definitely getting a Score nomination
Kad said: "ACL2006 said: "do we lockthese in now?
Best Musical
Hell's Kitchen
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Suffs
Water For Elephants"
I think it’s safe to lock in Illinoise and HK and prettysafe to lock in Suffs. I think one of either (or both) Outsiders and WoE could be knocked out by Wine & Roses, HLL, or a surprise nomination for Heart of Rock and Roll, if it manages to get positive reviews that match its very positiveword of mouth. It’s been such a weird season, though, so who knows."
Yeah I feel least sure of Water For Elephants. I think The Outsiders is close to locking in.
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Stereophonic Acting Noms should go to ELI GELB, SARAH PIDGEON AND WILL BRILL. All are deserving of nominations. Its the best show on Broadway.
After the reviews last night, I think Hell's Kitchen is once again the likely frontrunner.
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Featured Actress in a Musical
Krystal Joy Brown,Merrily We Roll Along
Nikki M. James,Suffs
Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer,Spamalot
Lindsay Mendez,Merrily We Roll Along
Bebe Neuwirth,Cabaret
Thank you for recognizing Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer! She was phenomenal as the Lady of the Lake. Unfortunately, critics tend to not give awards to comedic roles but this one should be considered!
CathyM3 said: "
Featured Actress in a Musical
Krystal Joy Brown,Merrily We Roll Along
Nikki M. James,Suffs
Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer,Spamalot
Lindsay Mendez,Merrily We Roll Along
Bebe Neuwirth,Cabaret
Thank you for recognizing Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer! She was phenomenal as the Lady of the Lake. Unfortunately, critics tend to not give awards to comedic roles but this one should be considered!"
It’s a Tony winning role.
While it's true that film awards bodies don't tend to award comedic performances very much, the Tonys pretty reliably do!
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