as per today's Drama Desk noms (though we all know there is very little correlation) I would be so, so happy with an Emily Skinner nomination tomorrow.
Some interesting predictions that I think could come true. But, it's hard for me to not throw out the whole thing when you think Lempicka is getting musical, score, and book noms.
They also imply that Here Lies Love is eligible for Best Book (GoldDerby also has it available to select in making your own predictions). Did we ever get a ruling on whether or not it's eligible and who would even receive that nom?"
Agree. Some of these Variety and Time Out predicted nominations are off. In past years, both have been pretty off with predictions.
One of the most crazy seasons! I tried some predictions below. I purposefully went rogue on a lot of them because I expect (and hope for) full chaos tomorrow morning. (*** = winner)
Best Musical Hell's Kitchen Illinoise*** The Outsiders Suffs Here Lies Love
Best Play Jaja's African Hair Braiding Mary Jane Patriots Prayer for the French Republic Stereophonic***
Best Revival of a Musical Spamalot Merrily We Roll Along*** The Who's Tommy The Wiz
Best Revival of a Play Appropriate*** An Enemy of the People Purlie Victorious
Lead Actor in a Musical
Jonathan Groff, Merrily We Roll Along***
Dorian Harewood, The Notebook
Ali Louis Bourzgui, The Who’s Tommy
Brian D'Arcy James, Days of Wine and Roses Chip Zien, Harmony
Lead Actress in a Musical Maleah Joi Moon, Hell's Kitchen Kelli O'Hara, Days of Wine and Roses*** Maryann Plunkett, The Notebook
Arielle Jacobs, Here Lies Love
Eva Noblezada, The Great Gatsby
Lead Actor in a Play Steve Carell, Uncle Vanya William Jackson Harper, Uncle Vanya Leslie Odom Jr., Purlie Victorious*** Jeremy Strong, An Enemy of the People Michael Stuhlbarg, Patriots
Lead Actress in a Play Jessica Lange, Mother Play Rachel McAdams, Mary Jane Sarah Paulson, Appropriate*** Betsy Aidem, Prayer for French Republic
Featured Actor in a Musical Joshua Boone, The Outsiders Ricky Ubeda, Illinoise Conrad Ricamora, Here Lies Love Daniel Radcliffe, Merrily We Roll Along*** Steven Skybell, Cabaret
Featured Actress in a Musical Joy Woods, The Notebook Nikki M. James, Suffs Kecia Lewis, Hell’s Kitchen Lindsay Mendez, Merrily We Roll Along Bebe Neuwirth, Cabaret***
Featured Actor in a Play Will Brill, Stereophonic Eli Gelb, Stereophonic Michael Imperioli, An Enemy of the People Jim Parsons, Mother Play Corey Stoll, Appropriate***
Featured Actress in a Play Francis Benhamou, Prayer for the French Republic Quincy Tyler Bernstine, Doubt Celia Keenan Bolger, Mother Play Sarah Pidgeon, Stereophonic Kara Young, Purlie Victorious***
Original Score Days of Wine and Roses - Adam Guettel The Notebook - Ingrid Michaelson Here Lies Love - Fatboy Slim, David Bryne Stereophonic - Will Butler Suffs - Shaina Taub***
Book of a Musical Days of Wine and Roses - Craig Lucas Hell's Kitchen - Kristoffer Diaz*** The Notebook - Bekah Brunstetter The Outsiders - Adam Rapp & Justin Levine Suffs - Shaina Taub
Direction of a Musical Maria Friedman, Merrily We Roll Along*** Justin Peck, Illinoise Leigh Silverman, Suffs Danya Taymor, The Outsiders Alex Timbers, Here Lies Love
Direction of a Play Daniel Aukin, Stereophonic*** David Cromer, Prayer for the French Republic Anne Kauffman, Mary Jane Kenny Leon, Purlie Victorious Lila Neugebauer, Appropriate
Choreography Camille A. Brown, Hell's Kitchen Rick Kuperman & Jeff Kuperman, The Outsiders Lorin Latarro, The Who's Tommy Justin Peck, Illinoise*** Jaquel Knight, The Wiz
Wow, Greg Evans (Deadline) is yet another journalist super strong on Lempicka...and I don't think I buy it. Eden could still get in, and there's a sliver of a chance for score because of the memorable songs. I just don't see it landing anywhere else given the reactions to it.
Evans' article is also full of inaccuracies, often with number of slots per category (he lists 5 shows for Revival of a Musical, for instance). So I'm not taking it too seriously.
I'm most perplexed by trying to predict Best Book of a Musical. Other than Suffs...I really didn't love ANY book this season. Are we really to understand that Hell's Kitchen is getting a nomination for BOOK?? (The book can be summed up as the main character saying "and then this happened? I felt this way. And then this happened. And it was alright. And then this happened..."). Every single person is predicting it and I DONT get it. But I also can't really come up with a good five. Will they go for the unconventional Illinoise? The brutal Days of Wine and Roses? Will they look past some structural quibbles with The Notebook, The Outsiders, and Water for Elephants and be won over by their emotion?
MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "Wow, Greg Evans (Deadline) is yet another journalist super strong on Lempicka...and I don't think I buy it. Eden could still get in, and there's a sliver of a chance for score because of the memorable songs. I just don't see it landing anywhere else given the reactions to it.
Evans' article is also full of inaccuracies, often with number of slots per category (he lists 5 shows for Revival of a Musical, for instance). So I'm not taking it too seriously.
I'm most perplexed by trying to predict Best Book of a Musical. Other than Suffs...I really didn't love ANY book this season. Are we really to understand that Hell's Kitchen is getting a nomination for BOOK?? (The book can be summed up as the main character saying "and then this happened? I felt this way. And then this happened. And it was alright. And then this happened..."). Every single person is predicting it and I DONT get it. But I also can't really come up with a good five. Will they go for the unconventional Illinoise? The brutal Days of Wine and Roses? Will they look past some structural quibbles with The Notebook, The Outsiders, and Water for Elephants and be won over by their emotion?"
But couldn’t there be 5 musical revival nominees if 4th and 5th are within a certain percentage?
MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "I'm most perplexed by trying to predict Best Book of a Musical. Other than Suffs...I really didn't love ANY book this season. Are we really to understand that Hell's Kitchen is getting a nomination for BOOK?? (The book can be summed up as the main character saying "and then this happened? I felt this way. And then this happened. And it was alright. And then this happened..."). Every single person is predicting it and I DONT get it. But I also can't really come up with a good five. Will they go for the unconventional Illinoise? The brutal Days of Wine and Roses? Will they look past some structural quibbles with The Notebook, The Outsiders, and Water for Elephants and be won over by their emotion?"
bwaylyric said: "MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "I'm most perplexed by trying to predict Best Book of a Musical. Other than Suffs...I really didn't love ANY book this season. Are we really to understand that Hell's Kitchen is getting a nomination for BOOK?? (The book can be summed up as the main character saying "and then this happened? I felt this way. And then this happened. And it was alright. And then this happened..."). Every single person is predicting it and I DONT get it. But I also can't really come up with a good five. Will they go for the unconventional Illinoise? The brutal Days of Wine and Roses? Will they look past some structural quibbles with The Notebook, The Outsiders, and Water for Elephants and be won over by their emotion?"
And yet Jagged Little Pill won best book"
Comparing anything to the COVID Tonys isn't really fair though. Jagged Little Pill beat Moulin Rouge and Tina and that was it...
I think we're going to see LOTS of nominees in lots of categories - The Tony's attempt to boost some shows - but in actuality it will just diminish the value of the nominations if everyone is named.
RUkiddingme said: "I think we're going to see LOTS of nominees in lots of categories - The Tony's attempt to boost some shows - but in actuality it will just diminish the value of the nominations if everyone is named."
You know there are rules that determine the number of nominees, right? It's not just up to the admin. I suppose there's nothing legally binding because it's just an awards show (anybody know that for sure?). But, I highly doubt they're messing with stuff.
If we get extra nominees (and I think we will get a lot of them), it's because it's such a competitive year and there are ties. Near-ties (when it's within a few votes) count as ties, so it's not hard for it to happen. With so many shows opening in such a condensed window, it's also likely a lot of nominators couldn't see everything and had to drop out, which also increases likelihood of ties.
Broadway Flash said: "Somehow I don’t agree with that. I don’t believe they are as democratic as they claim."
Then why do you care or bother commenting on these threads? You whine about the Tonys but really want your boy Casey Likes to be nominated, which is hilarious.
NYTimes: The Three Shows I’m Pulling for in the Tony Award Nominations https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/24/opinion/thepoint/tony-award-nominations-songwriting?unlocked_article_code=1.oU0.2V1j.97vPYRA4ajjb
NYTimes: Broadway Opened 12 Shows in 9 Days. Here’s What That Looked Like.
MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "Wow, Greg Evans (Deadline) is yet another journalist super strong on Lempicka...and I don't think I buy it. Eden could still get in, and there's a sliver of a chance for score because of the memorable songs. I just don't see it landing anywhere else given the reactions to it."
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's pro-Lempicka. It's my favorite out of the shows I've seen this year.
This is a terrible system. Such a small pool should not be deciding nominations for all categories. They should do something like the Oscars where each branch (or a nominating committee from each branch) votes on nominations on respective categories.