Pretty unbelievable, eh Amasis? I mean we should respect what people have to say, it might not be what you want to hear, but if that's what they think don't bash them about it...
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amasis probably said all that was necessary...
Broadwaygirl, I appreciate where you're coming from, but even the non-actors have some understanding of what good acting is, especially those of us involved in other art forms that require an understanding of human behavior and interpretation. I've never said Adam was brilliant, but I do differ on the finer points with you. By now, though, we've really said all there is. Anything else would be redundant.
Updated On: 9/4/05 at 10:31 PM
"Broadwaygirl, I appreciate where you're coming from, but even the non-actors have some understanding of what good acting is, especially those of us involved in other art forms that require an understanding of human behavior and interpretation."
I could not agree more. There are plenty of actors, trained as well, that have no idea what good acting is. Just as there are many that do. It's more about observation than anything else.
I didn't say anyone didn't have an understanding of what good acting is. Just that sometimes training will open your eyes to things you never would've thought twice about before. Or at least that it did in my case.
What was the lie about Daphne Rubin-Vega? (sry, not very informed)
I only saw Pascal in Chess concert. My god, he was awful! At that time I kept thinking why they did not cast Raul Esparza as Freddie instead of him. Terriblely miscast.
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Adam said what many think but won't say. Plain and simple. Shoot the messenger if you will but a lot of the stuff being mounted on broadway is not that great at the moment. He just has the guts to say it.
The lie about Daphne is her age and them stating she's 36. Nine years ago she was closer to that age.
There is a way to state something, without coming off arrogant.
I'd like to think that the original cast members pushed hard to keep the integrity of RENT intact in the film version, but thinking realisticly, a lot of these actors are stage actors who are getting their first big roles in a movie. I suppose they may have kept their mouths shut and just done what they were told. Anyway, either way, the movie will be the proof of whether the integrity of the show has been kept intact and whether Columbus has more talent than he has shown in the past.
In text-type, it's even hard to accurately read and know for sure that it's blatant arrogance. We have no idea what his inflection was.
The man has an ego, but is he really THAT arrogant?
Okay, I must throw in my two cents:
First of all the article states that Adam had never acted before doing Rent. He does not understand the dedication and hard work it takes to get a lead on Broadway for most people (not all, of course) because he was lucky enough to stumble into it. This is just an observation-I certainly do not condone that kind of bad mouthing.
Second of all there was just no need to say it!!!! If someone asked you, "Do you think Broadway is producing nothing but crap?" and you responded yes, you'd still be taking a risk and maybe it'd be better for your career to just lie, but at least you'd have been responding to something that was directly asked of you. He volunteered that he thought Broadway was "atrocious" and there was just no need for it! He is there to promote a film, a film based on the musical that made him rich. Just promote the film. If you want to do more film, awesome, just talk about that. Why do you need to badmouth the people who work hard on Broadway?
I felt the same way about the things Rue McClanahan and Heather Headley said about Broadway: There is a thing called TACT people. Respect the fact that although Broadway performance isn't your ultimate goal that there are many many people out there striving for a chance to even set foot on a Broadway stage.
I beg to differ. A little bit of arrogance, a DAMNED lot of confidence. But not THAT much arrogance.
Like I said, there is NO inflection in text. A lot of how he meant it would depend on HOW he said it.
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But Rue can say what she wants, she's paid her dues as a WELL established and seasoned actress. She made her comments in an a respectable way.
Did Adam really have to use the word "atrocious", come on.
Kind of like the "Thank God for me" quote, Emcee. LOL
Updated On: 9/5/05 at 01:10 AM
the article states that Adam had never acted before doing Rent.
No professional acting, and no acting that he will openly mention in most interviews. But that was not his absolute first time on stage as an actor.
He does not understand the dedication and hard work it takes to get a lead on Broadway for most people
I think that's really unfair to bring up - I mean, just because he hit a stroke of luck, does that make him less deserving? And to say he's badmouthing the people who work hard? Just because he hasn't gone through the ranks doesn't mean he doesn't understand what hard work it is to maintain a leading performance eight times a week, and it doesn't mean that he never worked hard on stage. Come on, he deserves more credit than that.
I still don't see what's so wrong with honesty.
ljay - Rue is also like thrice Adam's age. She's got the years to be called a "seasoned actress."
BroadwayGirl - exactly. It was a JOKE, but not a particularly easy one to pick up.
*scratches eyeballs out*
lol, I know Emcee, that's why I was laughing. Please don't scratch your eyeballs out.
Honestly, I guess the man just needs a bit of a lesson in re-wording his statements if they're going to end up in print.
Yes. That is the conclusion this thread has brought me to.
Updated On: 9/5/05 at 01:15 AM
I know. I edited, since my post read kind of oddly.
And I think I agree with that conclusion.
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PR, PR, PR....
Kelli's another one who is mis-interpreted, I think.
I remember that. What a mess.
i read the article while i was out today, and i was waiting to come home and see the response! he just sounds very arrogant - but in nearly every situation that i've been "in his company" (whether it's concerts or stage door or whatever) he has always come off that way, so it wasn't overly dissapointing to read, because that's just the way that he is...at least he's honest and upfront!
i adore him, arrogant or not
Updated On: 9/5/05 at 01:28 AM
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Frankly, it doesnt seem too surprising to me. After a while I see he isn't afraid to do ballsy or possibly inconsiderate things, but at other times he seems very real, which I guess is why he does these things. I'd rather him be an ass and not lie to the people, then to go up to somebody with expectations of their kindness and being let down. And yet again, maybe he didnt mean in that way, it came out wrong and the press will catch anything. I think the whole article is just crap at this point
He is there to promote a film, a film based on the musical that made him rich. Just promote the film.
Adam wasn't there to promote a film exclusively, the article was about what's been going on with with the OBC's careers since Rent and coming up in the future. And unless he's making tons in the stock market, I doubt he's rich.
It's not like he was the only person to have a negative tone to his quote in the whole article. Wilson said he didn't want to be type-cast as a drag queen anymore. Fredi said that she was too old to play Joanne. They're all just being honest. Is everyone here commenting even reading the whole article, or just the one quote this thread is based on?
Reading through this thread, I can't identify instances in which BroadwayGirl107 disrespected any of you.
As to Adam's acting abilities... well, I'm still waiting for the film. I agree with the poster who stated that there's nothing extraordinary about slipping up in the press. I did it once before and the issue wasn't the state of Broadway; it was whether African-Americans should get reparations for slavery. (scarier slip-up to make, at least for me) Wouldn't want to be in his shoes the next time he pursues a part in a stage production, though...
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