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#26

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 10:55am

Agreed, Henrik!
On another note, imagine my surprise when I saw After Eight on the news...

"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir

#27

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 10:58am

"it's sole purpose is pretty much to make the audience miserable,"

Sums up Sondheim's entire body of work. That's why his devotees love it so!

"being miserable is not something I enjoy."

You, me, and 99.999999% of the public.

In other words, all the hapless saps to spit upon while raking in their cash!

Updated On: 11/13/14 at 10:58 AM

#28

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 11:03am

An actual quote by After Eight:

"Oh, and or [sic] the record, I do not hate Sondheim's work. I dislike a great deal of it, but I like some of it."

"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir

#29

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 11:04am

Wasn't Jack portrayed as a simple boy. I truly think that he has the mind of a child or an inability to understand emotions.

#30

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 11:17am

MrTrobz...that is what i was thinking too... I do not think Jack really realizes what he did completely. I think cause he was told he was slow and stupid and dumb so many times by his granmother... he thinks now that he can kill a person he can be a hero and it is actually sad. He doesn't grasp the whole concept of it.

"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."

#31

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 11:22am

I can't believe this whole conversation is taking place.

Poster Emeritus

#32

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 11:43am

Don't mind me. I'm just gonna place this scene right here:

Little Red Ridinghood: They're almost finished. You see over there between those two trees? When the giant comes, we are to
send her over there.

Cinderella: Good.

Little Red Ridinghood: I wanted to climb the tree too.

Cinderella: I am glad that you are here to help me.

(LITTLE RED RIDINGHOOD begins to cry; music begins)

What's wrong?

Little Red Ridinghood: My Granny's gone.

Cinderella: Oh no. I'm so sorry.

Little Red Ridinghood: I think my granny and my mother would be very angry with me.

Cinderella: Why?

Little Red Ridinghood: They said to always make them proud. And here I am about to kill somebody.

Cinderella: Not somebody. A giant that has been doing harm.

Little Red Ridinghood: But the Giant's a person. Aren't we to show forgiveness? Mother would be very unhappy with these circumstances.

-There's the muddle in the middle. There's the puddle where the poodle did the piddle."

#33

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 11:44am

I have a problem with the ending of Gypsy. A mother is too lazy to get herself a job, so she sells her daughter to be a stripper for a bunch of dirty old men. Doesn't she realize her daughter will end up like Elektra, Mazeppa and Tessie? Sarcastic, run down old crones? She should have married her daughter off to a nice Jewish doctor.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

#34

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 12:18pm

"In short, the whole thing stinks to high heaven."

Thanks, Statler. What does your friend Waldorf think?

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#35

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 12:28pm

In examining a book such as --Peter Rabbit-- I mean Into The Woods, it is important that the superficial characteristics of its deceptively simple plot should not be allowed to blind the reader to the more substantial fabric of its deeper motivations. In this --report-- I mean response I plan to discuss the sociological implications of family pressures so great as to drive an otherwise moral --rabbit-- I meant to say Little Red Riding Hood to perform acts of --thievery-- really mean murder which she consciously knew were against the law. I also hope to explore the personality of --Mr.Macgregor-- meant Jack in his conflicting roles as farmer and humanitarian.

#36

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:01pm

"I sorta hate to ask it but...but--LINE?"

#37

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:21pm

^^^ I find myself asking that a lot a leather bars because a lot of these transmen are butch as hell.

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#38

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:29pm

"being miserable is not something I enjoy."

You, me, and 99.999999% of the public.

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And yet, history tells us that tragedies as an art form have survived even longer than you.

#39

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:32pm

I'm sure Sondheim's legacy will last far longer than After Eight's wretchedly miserable opus here.

"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir

#40

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:35pm

"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir

Updated On: 11/13/14 at 01:35 PM

#41

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:46pm

#42

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 1:55pm

Why so nasty, Sally? After Eight is pleasant enough to everyone on this board and seems to be just stating his/her/their opinion.

#43

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 2:01pm

No, actually. That's not true. That's not true at all.

#44

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 2:09pm

I don't take anything After Eight says seriously. And neither should anyone else.

#45

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 2:35pm

Updated On: 11/13/14 at 02:35 PM

#46

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 2:46pm

Oh trust us, he's one nasty S.O.B.

....but the world goes 'round

#47

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 2:56pm

Fantod, that was about three years ago. I am obsessed with reading preview threads, and I have read his thoughts on various shows. In the preview thread for the 2011 Follies he expressed his opinion very matter of fact, but was never rude. Yes, his opinion is different from mine, but I don't really care about that as long as people show respect for others.
In the past few years, he has gotten worse and worse - being very rude to Whizzer, who has been rather polite and pleasant about their opinions and has used grace to rise above the situation. After Eight has insulted numerous posters and been rude to one regarding their choice of college education.
As of now, After Eight has become a durgical. It is sad, because he has a wealth of knowledge and has seen many amazing productions, but that doesn't change the fact that he is awful to be around. And on top of that he prides himself on being kind!
Fantod, even though you dislike Sondheim or LaChiusa or anything that I happen to like, I will always treat you with respect if you do the same for me and the other posters here. And I'm sure we can have many conversations about shows we both enjoy - or even friendly debates! But please, don't become a durgical.

"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir

#48

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 3:08pm

PalJoey, you have been here quite a lot longer than I have, so I am willing to say that it is possible that After Eight is a nasty poster and I have just not yet been exposed to his/her/their unpleasant side, but of the posts that I've seen from him/her/them the all just seem to be presenting an opinion, even if it is different from what everyone else thinks

You can easily view his past posts, but if you don't want to search, you won't have to wait long to understand. Especially if you like the revival of On the Town.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

#49

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 3:10pm

But the "One the Town" revival has a dick joke in it! A dick joke!

#50

Anyone else have a problem with the ending of Into the woods? Its pretty morally disgusting

Posted: 11/13/14 at 3:15pm

Alright Sally that makes sense. Sorry for my comment. I will, however, reserve my judgement of him/her/them until I have enough experience with him/her/them to make one. And just for the record, I do not dislike Sondheim, I just think he is a bit overrated and don't like any of his collaborations with James Lapine, but I quite enjoy his lyric writing jobs for WSS and Gypsy and his original collaborations with Hal Prince, particularly Merrily We Roll and Forum, just more so in the theatre than on cast albums. As for. LaChiusa, I'm sorry to say that aside from the admittedly intense and darkly beautiful Wild Party, I find his music ugly, but of course that's just personal opinion.

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