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BEETLEJUICE Previews#100
Posted: 3/29/19 at 1:22pm
Vinosippycup2 said: "No. I don't work for them.I was simply feeling happy after the show andI wrote about why I liked it. I loved theperformances, set, songs and that itmade me laugh. I don't claim to be an expertbut I was voicing my opinion and what I saw. I won't be doing that again since the reaction was so mean. Jeez."
Please don't let this petty board stop you from sharing your opinion! You are just as entitled to share your thoughts about the show as anyone else!
Broadway Star Joined: 11/12/13
BEETLEJUICE Previews#101
Posted: 3/29/19 at 1:28pm
darquegk I like your analysis of the source material. This makes sense.
The comparison to Addams Family interests me as well. That show was moderately blue in Chicago (jokes about Morticia's sex life and a song about Tentacle Rape) but it was cleaned up for a high school edition that gets produced frequently. Is Beetlejuice similarly easy to scrub clean or is Brightman's shtick mostly R rated?
BEETLEJUICE Previews#103
Posted: 3/29/19 at 1:50pm
I think the comparison to Addams Family is apt. A fumbling of tone with a subpar score. I think there’s a healthy dose of Wonderland here too, especially during the act two opener when the entire ensemble dances around in Beetlejuice costumes, much like the multiple Alice’s when Alice first entered Wonderland.
I also couldn’t help but think of Rocky (though the tones couldn’t be further apart!). Maybe it was the same director in the same theater, but as Hamilfan states, they kind of wanted to have their cake and eat it too re: altering the characters and plot, but still throwing in many of the classic movie moments like Day-O. Rocky had to include drinking the eggs, climbing the steps, Eye of the Tiger, etc and no matter how much Beetlejuice changed the characters and set-up, they couldn’t escape including all the equivalent film moments here too.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#104
Posted: 3/29/19 at 1:56pm
MrsSallyAdams said: "The comparison to Addams Family interests me as well. That show was moderately blue in Chicago (jokes about Morticia's sex life and a song about Tentacle Rape) but it was cleaned up for a high school edition that gets produced frequently. Is Beetlejuice similarly easy to scrub clean or is Brightman's shtick mostly R rated?
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I would say Brightman's shtick is a solid PG-13. There is maybe one or two F bombs, and a couple of sex jokes. The most risque joke is an orgy joke that barely landed last night so I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up cutting it anyway. IMO it would be pretty easy to clean-up for a school edition though.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#105
Posted: 3/29/19 at 2:03pm
Am I wrong in being let down that the Banana Boat bit was sung instead of lip-synched? I understand it's a musical and you have trained singers on stage and to do so might be a waste of resources. But, in my opinion, half of the humor in that scene from the movie is that - out of nowhere - Harry Belafonte's voice comes bellowing out of Delia's mouth. And, little by little, as her body movies he slowly inhabits the rest of her.
I can appreciate the need for a director to want to add his own spin on an iconic moment, but I truly feel like he fumbled here. Part of the magic in these adaptations is a mix of old and new, adding depth and exploring themes or characters more closely. But, I think creatives sometimes worry about being accused of ripping someone else off if they hew too close to the source material. I can't help feeling that's false. Xeroxing a movie script, reformatting it and putting your name on it is plagiarism. But, adapting a work and making thoughtful changes while preserving some of the most iconic moments is deference. It's homage.
Stand-by Joined: 10/28/06
BEETLEJUICE Previews#106
Posted: 3/29/19 at 2:15pm
LightsOut90 said: "annnnny merch reports?"
They had a couple t-shirts, a raglan shirt, hoodie, tote, mug, buttons, magnet, and a pin. I don't think I saw a window card or program.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#107
Posted: 3/29/19 at 2:24pm
YvanEhtNioj said: "Sometime's it feels like people are almost happy to hear bad things about a show as if they want it to fail."
Michael Riedel Sydrome ( "I’ve got my foot on its neck, and I’m having too much fun to take it off" )
"Michael Riedel...The Perez Hilton of the New York Theatre scene"
- Craig Hepworth, What's On Stage
BEETLEJUICE Previews#108
Posted: 3/29/19 at 2:59pm
The Caruso/Leslie Kritzer's duet is still in the show? I liked that one.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#109
Posted: 3/29/19 at 3:07pm
LightsOut90 said: "annnnny merch reports?"
The logo tee as a subtle tonal black stripe effect
The names tee has a faux "denim wash" look (same as the hadestown one below) - wish it was a plain black tee but it was super hard to see with the lighting at the merch booth in the back of orch
The ringer tee says "I myself am strange and unusual"
No windowcard yet
Sippy cups have the same design as the magnet
Featured Actor Joined: 5/11/04
BEETLEJUICE Previews#110
Posted: 3/29/19 at 3:37pm
I saw the show in DC & really disliked it. I was so disappointed as I too thought it was a brilliant idea to musicalize the film. What I saw in DC was a mess though. It's like they got it all wrong.
I was hopeful when I heard about the many changes being made for Broadway. I even thought about making plans to see it again after opening, once it's frozen. But I dunno... after reading these reports it sounds like they're not on the right track. It sounds like the show still has major book problems. (And it sounds like the score hasn't improved in the slightest.) I'll probably just save my money & pass on a second visit.
For what it's worth, my DC Playbill didn't have a song list either but the only musical number I enjoyed was the Act 2 opener. Couldn't tell you the name of it but I thought that was the only song worth keeping.
Featured Actor Joined: 5/11/04
BEETLEJUICE Previews#111
Posted: 3/29/19 at 3:41pm
Oh & I meant to say, I know there has only been one Broadway preview so far, but I just thought it would be in better shape at this point. I know they will probably tinker with a lot between now & opening but it sounds like they still need a lot of heavy lifting. It'd be great if they continue to make huge changes to better the show, but I'm just not holding my breath that they will ever get there. Like what are the chances of them hiring an entirely new composer before opening? (Kidding. But that would be nice.)
Since I hate making only negative comments, I will say again (as I said in a post in another thread) that I really loved the visuals in this show. They were fantastic. Unfortunately nothing came close to those strengths. But kudos to the scenic design & lighting design folks.
Featured Actor Joined: 1/22/19
BEETLEJUICE Previews#112
Posted: 3/29/19 at 3:53pm
WhizzerMarvin said: they couldn’t escape including all the equivalent film moments here too."
I feel like this happens to all the classic movies turned to musicals (esp pretty woman) it comes down to a damned if they do, damned if they don't.
cause if they DONT include the classic scene, people will say "I can't believe they didn't include that part"
but if they DO include it, 9/10 will complain that it didn't live up to the movie.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#113
Posted: 3/29/19 at 4:14pm
Alex Kulak2 said: "I remember someone saying that this would have worked really well if someone like David Yazbek wrote the score."
Can we just talk about how phenomenal this show would be if Tim Minchin composed the score and replaced Brightman as Beetlejuice? He'd kill it. I know he said he's done with musicals for awhile, but either way, Warner Bros. just needs to begin licensing their properties to other Broadway producers who actually know how to put a good creative team together.
Broadway Star Joined: 12/29/06
BEETLEJUICE Previews#114
Posted: 3/29/19 at 4:27pm
getupngo said: "WhizzerMarvin said: they couldn’t escape including all the equivalent film moments here too."
I feel like this happens to all the classic movies turned to musicals (esp pretty woman) it comes down to a damned if they do, damned if they don't.
cause if they DONT include the classic scene, people will say "I can't believe they didn't include that part"
but if they DO include it, 9/10 will complain that it didn't live up to the movie."
I know a lot of people here don't like Pretty Woman I myself consider it a fun guilty pleasure. They definitely got damned by the critics for sticking so closely to the movie. At the same time, this may have been smart - the bridge and tunnel crowd-esque crowds (the show's best audience IMO) would have rebelled at changing iconic moments.
Groundhog Day I thought did a *really* good job of sticking to many of the movie's iconic moments/beats (e.g. "Phil? Phil Connors?"
, while making Phil's character arc feel fresh and different.
Featured Actor Joined: 5/11/04
BEETLEJUICE Previews#115
Posted: 3/29/19 at 4:33pm
DiscoCrows said: "Can we just talk about how phenomenal this show would be if Tim Minchin composed the score and replaced Brightman as Beetlejuice? He'd kill it."
I would have loved that, as I thought Groundhog Day was one of the best movie-to-musical adaptations in the past 10 years or so. But then again I would probably prefer any composer over Eddie Perfect!
The Beetlejuice film has such a distinct flavor. The Broadway show should have a score to match, whether it be edgy & rock n' roll or weird & calypso-inspired (which I thought I heard they were incorporating into the Broadway revisions). But instead it's just bland bland bland. The score could have really given the show its identity had they hired a more capable composer, but as it stands no one is going to remember these songs.
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/11/11
BEETLEJUICE Previews#116
Posted: 3/29/19 at 5:03pm
FOAnatic said: "Am I wrong in being let down that the Banana Boat bit was sung instead of lip-synched? I understand it's a musical and you have trained singers on stage and to do so might be a waste of resources. But, in my opinion, half of the humor in that scene from the movie is that - out of nowhere - Harry Belafonte's voice comes bellowing out of Delia's mouth. And, little by little, as her body movies he slowly inhabits the rest of her.
I can appreciate the need for a director to want to add his own spin on an iconic moment, but I truly feel like he fumbled here. Part of the magic in these adaptations is a mix of old and new, adding depth and exploring themes or characters more closely. But, I think creatives sometimes worry about being accused of ripping someone else off if they hew too close to the source material. I can't help feeling that's false. Xeroxing a movie script, reformatting itand putting your name on it is plagiarism. But, adapting a work and making thoughtful changes while preserving some of the most iconic moments is deference.It's homage."
If I had a guess, it’s a rights issue.
its more expensive for them to get the rights to perform the original Day-O than cover it.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#117
Posted: 3/29/19 at 5:38pm
Vinosippycup2 said: "
"The lyrics are super inventive and smart" You are either a young teen who knows nothing about lyrics or you work for the show. I believe those are the options here :)"
No. I don't work for them.I was simply feeling happy after the show andI wrote about why I liked it. I loved theperformances, set, songs and that itmade me laugh. I don't claim to be an expertbut I was voicing my opinion and what I saw. I won't be doing that again since the reaction was so mean. Jeez."
I enjoyed reading your review. It made me hopeful for my visit to this show in a couple weeks.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#118
Posted: 3/29/19 at 6:05pmI saw this in DC and enjoyed it there. It needed work, mostly act 2, and interested in how it changed good or bad. It had decent bones in DC, Act 1 needed to be shorter and new songs for Kerry and Rob, Act 2 had story issues and the end was rushed. Whizzed mentioned the comparison to Wonderland and I laughed as “Welcome to Wonderland” was one of the best numbers if we were expecting a campy evening, but it wasn’t and had scars from revisionist and versions that had nothing to do with the show anymore.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#119
Posted: 3/29/19 at 7:36pm
I am standing outside this theater, a tourist from nowhere wanting to see a show, any show because I am on Broadway. I read the show card promotions, 'Beetlejuice'? never heard of it, says it was a cult film, well that leaves me out, better go and find something that I've heard about.
Like many of these movie to stage adaptations you have a core group of fans who want the movie to come to life, others are curious and love musicals whatever the source material and other who aren't willing to risk mega $s on a 'maybe'.
Seems like for this one the 'maybes' might be the majority.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
BEETLEJUICE Previews#120
Posted: 3/29/19 at 8:34pm
precisely. Its not like Beetlejuice is a world wide famous movie (pretty woman, king kong, mean girls). I think alot of people think that everyone just knows what this movie is and that will be a selling point, when in reality...its not very well known..
I think Warner Bros is in for a nasty surprise.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#121
Posted: 3/29/19 at 9:35pm
massofmen said: "precisely. Its not like Beetlejuice is a world wide famous movie (pretty woman, king kong, mean girls). I think alot of people think that everyone just knows what this movie is and that will be a selling point, when in reality...its not very well known..
I think Warner Bros is in for a nasty surprise.
"
Beetlejuice was much bigger world wide than Mean Girls was x
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
BEETLEJUICE Previews#122
Posted: 3/29/19 at 9:44pm
i apologize. you are right about BJ being a bigger hit worldwide..mainly in the UK though but yes
BEETLEJUICE Previews#123
Posted: 3/29/19 at 11:47pm
massofmen said: "i apologize. you are right about BJ being a bigger hit worldwide..mainly in the UK though but yes"
Mean Girla did ok at the box office but didn’t really find a larger audience until it came out on home video.
Im old believe me Beetlejuice was a massive hit everywhere when it came out. Plus it has the cartoon series as well. It was a mainstream hit not a cult film.
BEETLEJUICE Previews#124
Posted: 3/30/19 at 4:04am
This sounds BADDDD.
At least Alex Timbers can redeem himself with Moulin Rouge.
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