BONNIE AND CLYDE only selling tickets until Dec. 30... — Page 12
#277
Posted: 12/17/11 at 4:56am
Part of the problem is the timing. Opening as late into the calendar year as they did pretty much forcing the need for a smash hit. January - March is hard for many shows to sustain under most circumstances. If you can't get a decent number of tix sold for that time period ahead of time, you are doomed for a new show.
How can you convince yourself that its temporary and keep losing money on the show?
How can you convince yourself that its temporary and keep losing money on the show?
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
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#278
Posted: 12/17/11 at 9:08am
Anyone in the cast and crew who still believed they would be performing come 2012 was in Wonderland (ha!). Group sales refunded + ticket sales cut off completely? Who comes to see your show if they can't buy tickets? You just have to look at the facts. It's like a 17 year old telling you he still believes in Sanata Clause....
#279
Posted: 12/17/11 at 2:25pm
This show closing on Broadway is just plain wrong. Next to the Book of Mormon, this was the best show on Broadway. A lot of people are going to miss out on a wonderful show and a great score.
#280
Posted: 12/17/11 at 3:11pm
It's the worst show I have seen in awhile...sad to see people losing their jobs, but glad to see this crap GO!
Westerns and Broadway don't mix well.
There were so many gun shots I wanted to kill myself...
Westerns and Broadway don't mix well.
There were so many gun shots I wanted to kill myself...
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
#282
Posted: 12/17/11 at 3:23pm
This show closing on Broadway is just plain wrong. Next to the Book of Mormon, this was the best show on Broadway.
Wow, really???
Wow, really???
#283
Posted: 12/17/11 at 3:25pm
^To some people it is. I personally enjoyed it more then BOM. It's an opinion.
"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."
#284
Posted: 12/17/11 at 3:28pm
Well they made their opinion sound like the be-all/end-all. I would have prefaced that statement with an "I believe" or "In my opinion."
Updated On: 12/17/11 at 03:28 PM
#285
Posted: 12/17/11 at 3:31pm
I'm so sad about this that I've just stayed away from this board for some time. I really loved this show, and had high hopes for it.
I'd love to see it one more time, but I'm so busy with work during the holidays. Can't they at least give us fans that customery first week of January?
I'd love to see it one more time, but I'm so busy with work during the holidays. Can't they at least give us fans that customery first week of January?
#286
Posted: 12/17/11 at 4:16pm
I've been hearing rumors about a January 2nd recording date.
#287
Posted: 12/17/11 at 5:34pm
I hope that the rumors you heard about the Jan. 2 recording are correct. I want this music to stay in my life.
#288
Posted: 12/17/11 at 6:13pm
I heard the same rumor.
#289
Posted: 12/17/11 at 7:35pm
It's a Frank Wildhorn musical, the recording will sell greatly, I would be surprised if the producers don't record it (This is from the same lead producer that released two Scarlet Pimpernel CDs).
I'm sure the producers decided to save whatever money they had to record rather than play for another month without recording.
I'm sure the producers decided to save whatever money they had to record rather than play for another month without recording.
#290
Posted: 12/17/11 at 7:47pm
I know they recorded the show for the Lincoln Archives last week?
Really too bad the past 2 shows Frank brought back both ended so short. Sad to see a few very grateful cast members, out looking for another gig so soon.
Oh well, you know Frank. He'll be pulling another rabbit out of his theater hat.
Really too bad the past 2 shows Frank brought back both ended so short. Sad to see a few very grateful cast members, out looking for another gig so soon.
Oh well, you know Frank. He'll be pulling another rabbit out of his theater hat.
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#291
Posted: 12/17/11 at 7:50pm
I saw the matinee today and I'm crossing my fingers for a recording. I'd love to hear Jeremy and Laura sing those songs again. The show has it's flaws, but I thought it was extraordinarily well sung.
#292
Posted: 12/17/11 at 11:16pm
A cast recording would be an early Christmas present.
The decision to open now was downright dumb. Another good show Sideshow opened at the wrong time & paid the price as well. I really doubt anyone will invest in Franks shows on Broadway now unless they want a guaranteed tax loss. The critics will not allow him to succeed on Broadway
His Tears Of Heaven is his Les Mis musical & would be great but the score would be dismissed as cheesy bombast as well.You will be missed from Broadway Frank. keep writing the scores for Europe & release your music here starting with Cyrano.
It should be interesting how many Tony Nods it will get.
The decision to open now was downright dumb. Another good show Sideshow opened at the wrong time & paid the price as well. I really doubt anyone will invest in Franks shows on Broadway now unless they want a guaranteed tax loss. The critics will not allow him to succeed on Broadway
His Tears Of Heaven is his Les Mis musical & would be great but the score would be dismissed as cheesy bombast as well.You will be missed from Broadway Frank. keep writing the scores for Europe & release your music here starting with Cyrano.
It should be interesting how many Tony Nods it will get.
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#293
Posted: 12/17/11 at 11:59pm
Philly; the producers don't have any money "left". They will lose the entire investment when the show closes, a recording will have to be completely done with new money. Has any other composer had 2 flops that lost all their money in one year?
I still think they should record with some names.
I still think they should record with some names.
#294
Posted: 12/18/11 at 1:15am
I agree that knowing Wildhorn..there will be a recording and it will sell.
Tears of Heaven = <3
Tears of Heaven = <3
#295
Posted: 12/18/11 at 3:23am
Meh I think they will record with Jeremy, Laura & Melissa because its a large part of them (especially the ladies) in the roles.
The Civil War concept album was cool with the "names" (I guess I don't know what "names" you are referring to - pop stars or theatre "names"), but I don't think something like this would work like that (That was, of course, all those ballads and pop duets with characters that could be nameless).
Mr Roxy.. in regards to what you said, I question how big of a part the Asolo has a large say in when it opens.. As you remember A Tale of Two Cities also opened in the fall, and regardless, I think there would have been a decent string of nominations if it was still open at the time (especially for the Tony nomination robbed of James Barbour).
The Civil War concept album was cool with the "names" (I guess I don't know what "names" you are referring to - pop stars or theatre "names"), but I don't think something like this would work like that (That was, of course, all those ballads and pop duets with characters that could be nameless).
Mr Roxy.. in regards to what you said, I question how big of a part the Asolo has a large say in when it opens.. As you remember A Tale of Two Cities also opened in the fall, and regardless, I think there would have been a decent string of nominations if it was still open at the time (especially for the Tony nomination robbed of James Barbour).
#296
Posted: 12/18/11 at 10:50am
I think the show would AT LEAST get nominations for Best Leading Actress, Best Leading Actor, Best Score and Best Set Design
"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."
#297
Posted: 12/18/11 at 12:32pm
Rumor is that they're recording the OBCR with full cast on January 2, with a TBD release date. I pray this turns out to be a fact. I agree with Philly, this will sell well in the US and also internationally.
Just some clarification about the Pimpernel recordings. The second one, "Encore" (third if you include the concept album), was not fully financed by the producers but mostly private investors and Atlantic Theatre. Kathleen Raitt, the lead producer of B&C, was not given credit for financing the "Encore" album at all. Truthfully, it only contained four new tracks, and the remaining 17 tracks were from the original OBCR, with the exception of two bonus tracks from a previously released Linda Eder album and the original concept album. As a fan of the show, I was happy with the four new tracks, but overall, the recording was a waste since it barely reflected the significant changes in lyrics and arrangements, etc, of the modified show. But I digress.
Wishing the cast, crew, and creative team of Bonnie & Clyde all of the best. I saw the show twice with two different groups of people, some of whom are theater snobs and all of whom loved it.
Just some clarification about the Pimpernel recordings. The second one, "Encore" (third if you include the concept album), was not fully financed by the producers but mostly private investors and Atlantic Theatre. Kathleen Raitt, the lead producer of B&C, was not given credit for financing the "Encore" album at all. Truthfully, it only contained four new tracks, and the remaining 17 tracks were from the original OBCR, with the exception of two bonus tracks from a previously released Linda Eder album and the original concept album. As a fan of the show, I was happy with the four new tracks, but overall, the recording was a waste since it barely reflected the significant changes in lyrics and arrangements, etc, of the modified show. But I digress.
Wishing the cast, crew, and creative team of Bonnie & Clyde all of the best. I saw the show twice with two different groups of people, some of whom are theater snobs and all of whom loved it.
#298
Posted: 12/18/11 at 12:36pm
Westerns and Broadway don't mix well.
Maybe not, but what does that have to do with Bonnie & Clyde?
Maybe not, but what does that have to do with Bonnie & Clyde?
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#299
Posted: 12/18/11 at 12:49pm
Yes, isn't it entertaining to see people who bash the show shoot themselves in the foot by eradicating their own credibility at the same time? (I'm not talking about people who reasonably criticize the show - that's different.)
#300
Posted: 12/18/11 at 1:07pm
"Has any other composer had 2 flops that lost all their money in one year? "
Richard Rodgers: She's My Baby, Chee-Chee (1928 )
Vernon Duke: Jackpot, Sadie Thompson (1944)
Galt MacDermot: Dude, Via Galactica (1972)
Richard Rodgers: She's My Baby, Chee-Chee (1928 )
Vernon Duke: Jackpot, Sadie Thompson (1944)
Galt MacDermot: Dude, Via Galactica (1972)
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