Granted they had a lot of discounts going on for Bonnie & Clyde this past week, but they ended up selling more seats than Mountaintop and Chicago and almost as many seats as Anything Goes and Follies...not bat at all.
^You knucklehead...didn't you read the beginning of my statement? That's why I mentioned that they had a lot of discounts. The reason why the other shows made more money was because the average ticket price for Bonnie & Clyde was a lot lower than the other...again, due to all the discounts. However, the point I was making was that Bonnie & Clyde sold more tickets than Mountaintop and Chicago. And on top of that, they almost sold as many tickets as Anything Goes and Follies. Next time, read the entire statement before you start spewing your nonsense.
He KNOWS what your post said. His POINT is that it doesn't matter HOW many tix they sell if they don't bring in enough $$$ That is the only determination on whether a show will continue running $$$. How man tix they can sell is unimportant.
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"Family and friends know. By now, so should the fans. The word has gone out to cast and crew - why they have not officially announced is a mystery. Maybe it's one of the contractural things Wildhorn does, as in the case of Dracula."
--they have not been told they are closing. people keep perpetuating this rumor.
It isn't a rumor. The producers have given cast and crew the inevitable pep talk they always give when a show is preparing to close. "We're trying a guerilla market campaign. We're sending out email blasts...and btw, if that doesn't work, we're closing at the end of the year".
It is referred to as "the talk", and anyone with the tiniest bit of experience reads it as the end. They may be trying to work out some contract behind the scenes that will encourage the producers to keep running even at a loss. Again, the same thing happened with Dracula. If the producers kept the show running "x" amount of time, rights of the play became theirs. They knew they could make a profit with it overseas so they didn't care about losing money here.
The wild card this time is the theater. They didn't use the stop clause at Dracula because the Belasco is not as desirable as the Schoenfield, and they didn't need the theater. That is not the case here.
Is that a possibility given that the current producers (Bialystock and Bloom? - jk!) want to close the show someone else might step in to take it over, or has this never happened in the history of Broadway?
Not to go too off-topic, but this happened with ROCK OF AGES when it moved to the Helen Hayes. The original producers were set to close it at the Brooks Atkinson when different producers came in who wanted to continue running it at a smaller theater. They in effect "purchased" the show from the original producers, moved it to the Hayes, and it is still going strong.
Then of course, there are all the times a nonprofit Broadway show makes a commercial transfer, but I don't think that's what you're talking about.
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No producer in his right mind would REFUND group sales unless he was 100% SURE the show's closing.
Exactly. This is the most obvious clue that the decision has been made. When group sales are canceled, the group leader simply rebooks for another show. They're not going to go back to Bonnie and Clyde if they suddenly decide to stay open.
That, along with the fact that The Best Man revival has the theater beginning in March.
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@ Dramamama...well if he understood what I said, he wouldn't have made the comment 'are you really that oblivious?'. Next time, let him or her speak for himself.
"Renart, I was actually speaking of San Diego. Where the show was workshopped at the La Jolla Playhouse.... :/"
I know. I was just being a smart aleck. Although, it did take me a second to figure out what SD stood for in your context. Living in the midwest as I do, my first instinct is to think of our neighbor to the west.
Wishing...I'll be there Xmas day as well. I'm still looking forward to it! (Despite the reviews.)
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This is turning into one of the stupidest things anyone on Broadway has done in quite a while.
Everyone is being told the show is closing and these stories that they're trying to drum up business to keep the show open beyond December by cutting off all sales and refunding those who've already purchased is beyond stupid. I do hope the show is up and running on January 1st. That way the Producers can sit and scratch their heads wondering why they're performing to a completely empty house.
not exactly a smart move to keep the show open past Dec. 30 since no one will be there for the next show. Basically after Jan. 8 the city turns into a ghost town for weeks, so I can't imagine anyone seeing the show that once had planned to(i.e. those that received refunds, were planning vacations).
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
I'm guessing they're not posting a closing notice because they assume is ticket buyers see "CLOSING DECEMBER 30!" after opening December 1 they will be unlikely to buy tickets to a FLOP musical.