Billy Elliot Broadway Update
#25re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/19/07 at 3:55pm
Its essential to the setting of the work, if you know it. And no they dont change accents for London audiences-ever.
COOOOLkid
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/15/05
#26re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/19/07 at 4:04pmYes, I know the show well enough. Sure, accent adds to the whole setting of the show, but it's not important at all.
#27re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/19/07 at 4:11pm
'accents add to the whole setting but its not important'
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Exactly- dont touch it. In the UK, American plays or musicals, new or classic are never played around with. Maybe we have a greater ability to understand accents. Ive never seen any of Tennesse Williams's or Eugene O'Neils work given a different accent so we can understand them easier.
COOOOLkid
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/15/05
#28re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/19/07 at 4:24pm
Dude, just drop it. You're British.
If everyone can understand what is being said on stage, then I wouldn't touch it either. But there's a problem when a lot of people can't understand what the hell is being said on stage.
#29re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/19/07 at 5:19pm
There's a big difference between the English accent we know or typically hear in London and what you hear in Billy Elliot. I think it's a Northern English accent or so I've been told. I have NO problem understanding what you would call a traditional English accent. I was lost a lot in Billy Elliot due to the severe accent. I think it should still be English.....just maybe not as severe.....if that is even a possibility. Add that to the whole backplot with the uprising and politics and American audiences are going to be completely lost. I'm just saying.
Updated On: 8/19/07 at 05:19 PM
#30re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/19/07 at 5:46pmWhats that supposed to mean? 'Your British' is that a problem?
WOSQ
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/03
#31re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 10:13am
Spoil the ending? The film was released in what, 2000? If you post on this board and you haven't seen the film, why haven't you seen the film? It is 'BroadwayWorld 101".
The accent that is used is perched in the back of the throat and a lot of the words become swallowed and garbled. Before you tell me to listen, I had my hand cupped to my ear and that was what helped clarify the words. The accent has to be changed.
I wasn't wild about the set. It could be redesigned or altered and the show might be better.
I will be in Sydney in Feb and Mar so perhaps I will find out if the show has many changes and if they work.
And trust me, the only reason the Shuberts are going to let Billy Elliot out of the Imperial is if one of their better musical houses becomes available and it looks like none will. The Shubert Organization only owns 5 decent-sized musical houses (Shubert, Majestic, Winter Garden, Broadway and Imperial), and all are spoken for right now.
#32re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 11:11am
Let's hope they won't change anything to 'adapt' the Broadway audiences! I mean... look at how ridiculous Mary Poppins looks like now with the changes!
I personally thought the accents were essential to the plot, it really brought the whole audiene into the Durham/North Yorkshire setting.
#33re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 11:17amI imagine the Broadway will be available by the time Billy comes to town.
#34re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 11:17amduplicate Updated On: 8/20/07 at 11:17 AM
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#35re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 11:37am
> Spoil the ending? The film was released in what, 2000? If you post on this board and you haven't seen the film, why haven't you seen the film? It is 'BroadwayWorld 101".
WOSQ: apparently, the ending was changed from the film to the musical ... NOT something widely known on this side of the pond. it was a spoiler. definitely. Justin even agreed.
get over yerself! :P
Jilani
Broadway Star Joined: 6/30/05
#36re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 11:51am
The ending was not changed that much from the film to the musical - it just ends before the last scene of the film (which - SPOILER if you haven't seen the film - fast forwards to Billy all grown up and performing in the Matthew Bourne Swan Lake).
I agree that the accent is hard for Americans to understand, but I also think it would be really lame to dumb it down. The bottom line, in my opinion, is that this show is just too British to do well with American audiences. I don't mean that as a criticism of either the British or the Americans.
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#37re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 11:56amjilani: it all makes sense now ... thanks for splainin'!
#38re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 1:13pm
It's a Geordie accent, one of the more difficult ones to comprehend at times for reasons already stated here. It's appropriate to the class and location, though, and is even referenced in the lyrics several times. I'm curious to see how they handle this as it's not easily softened without losing its key qualities. We should know more after we see how they do it in Australia. I'm still praying they don't relocate the story to make it easier on us poor, pampered Colonials
#39re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 1:22pmWas the accent changed or "toned down" in the film? Because I don't remember the dialect in the film being that difficult to understand.
#40re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 2:53pmI saw Billy Elliot in London and I understood pretty much everything that was said. It really wasn't very difficult to follow. I was in the cheap seats in the back, too.
#41re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 2:58pmIf they're casting American boys as Billy Elliot I don't think you're going to have a problem understanding their "northern" British accent because I doubt they'll have one!
#42re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 3:15pmThere was an American boy playing the role in London and he was taught the same accent. I don't know how his compared to everyone elses since I didn't see him, but...
#43re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 3:37pmThat was Colin Bates, and you can see him in the Billy Elliot press reel that's been up on the official site and YouTube. His accent sounds pretty good to me. There's another American boy on in London now also, Corey Snide. I've heard there's a chance he may be in the Broadway version also.
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#44re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 3:49pmI'm so excited about this! I really would prefer nothing be changed, but if it is, it's just an excuse for me to go to London and see the original, I guess! This is the one show I'm wicked excited about coming to Broadway!
#45re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 4:48pm
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#46re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 4:51pm
Spoil the ending? The film was released in what, 2000? If you post on this board and you haven't seen the film, why haven't you seen the film? It is 'BroadwayWorld 101".
It actually hasn't hit Broadway yet, and won't for more than a year. So it's really not BroadwayWorld 101.
#47re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 5:20pmI am so excited about this. Loved it in London, and didn't have any problems understanding the accents or the politics of the time that were depicted. I hope they don't change a thing for Broadway ... Broadway audiences (especially the tourists) are too used to being spoon fed everything ... they should have to listen and, heaven forbid, think for a change. Billy Elliot should not be dumbed down to pander to today's audiences. If Billy Elliot goes over their heads, Broadway is in BIG trouble. But considering Grease is doing boffo business, Broadway might already be in big trouble.
#48re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 5:34pmI hope you're right...that they don't dumb it down. Though after the dismal failure of Coram Boy, I'm kind of afraid it might happen.
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#49re: Billy Elliot Broadway Update
Posted: 8/20/07 at 6:02pm
Me = excited.
I love Billy Elliot.
I can't even tell you how much.
(Or maybe...I can't really explain it, I haven't got the words...)
I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
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And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
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