Broadway Star Joined: 3/5/04
i am glad that Cats and Miss Saigon are major flops. 2 lousy shows that were lucky to run as long as they did their first time around. All due to an ascending tire, one great song and a helicopter.
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I'm not really sure where to bring this up, but I figure this is the place. How is rent typically dealt withat atheater? Is the theater given a percentage of the profits from the show, on top of just the charge of taking up the space? Or is it the same as an apartment or business - flat rate, monthly charge, regardless of how much money the show is making?
Obviously it's all contractual and every situation is going to be a little different, but what's typical?"
Generally theres a minimum weekly plus a percent of the box office. Depending on the size and how desperate an owner is to get something in quickly (or to fill a gap, like is the case with the August Wilson waiting for Mean Girls to come in), these numbers can vary widely, but figure most want around 5-7% of the box office, which is added on top of whatever the minimum rent is, which I've seen as low as $10,000 per week but can reach mid 5-figures.
Its not unusual for total theater rent to reach 6 figures for strong selling shows
evic said: "i am glad that Cats and Miss Saigon are major flops. 2 lousy shows that were lucky to run as long as they didtheir first time around. All due to an ascending tire, one great song and a helicopter." Then, you are an idiot for thinking that.
evic said: "i am glad that Cats and Miss Saigon are major flops. 2 lousy shows that were lucky to run as long as they didtheir first time around. All due to an ascending tire, one great song and a helicopter." Then, you are an idiot for thinking that.
Did Home For the Holidays even make enough money to pay everyone for the week(cast, crew, etc.)? They made $10,260 per show. Summer stock companies make more then that.
At this rate they should have held onto GROUNDHOG DAY at the WILSON... Wow!!!
I know Chicago re-couped ages ago, but how long can it go on with percentages like this? It seems Mamma Mia had similar percentages week-after-week and well, it closed....I’m genuinely curious.
Patti LuPone FANatic said: "evic said: "i am glad that Cats and Miss Saigon are major flops. 2 lousy shows that were lucky to run as long as they didtheir first time around. All due to an ascending tire, one great song and a helicopter." Then, you are an idiot for thinking that.”
Well, to be honest I haven’t seen Miss Saigon, but Cats better belongs in a litter box than on Broadway. Yes, it’s c$@p. I can’t imagine any production redeeming it.
Home for the Holiday is geared towards tourists, so I'd think it'd do well this coming week and leading up to Christmas. But I haven't seen any advertising for it. Who put this thing together? I feel like they'd do well on the Today Show or something to promote.
evic said: "i am glad that Cats and Miss Saigon are major flops. 2 lousy shows that were lucky to run as long as they didtheir first time around. All due to an ascending tire, one great song and a helicopter."
What a nasty, mean person you are.
It's work for some and pleasure for many so bite your bum and think happy thoughts before you type next time.
SweetLips said: "evic said: "i am glad that Cats and Miss Saigon are major flops. 2 lousy shows that were lucky to run as long as they didtheir first time around. All due to an ascending tire, one great song and a helicopter."
What a nasty, mean person you are.
It's work for some and pleasure for many so bite your bum and think happy thoughts before you type next time."
Broadway Star Joined: 3/5/04
Both shows were limited runs and actors got work- I just personally hate both shows.No- detest them.
evic said: "Both shows were limited runs and actors got work- I just personally hate both shows.No- detest them."
Cats was actually open ended
Understudy Joined: 9/8/13
RippedMan said: "Home for the Holiday is geared towards tourists, so I'd think it'd do well this coming week and leading up to Christmas. But I haven't seen any advertising for it. Who put this thing together? I feel like they'd do well on the Today Show or something to promote."
When you check TM for Sat night avails, it looks like about sixty tickets have been sold. Don't think the holidays are going to help this one. Too bad they couldn't have filled the dark house with a true holiday production like White Christmas, Christmas Story, Christmas Carol, etc.
Hmm Cats isn;t my favorite musical but I also don't think it's an abomination. The dancing is a lot of fun, as is the immersive junkyard set. Most of all: my mom loved it. She doesn't speak much English and the all-dance all-furry extravaganza was right up her alley. Theater is for everyone. Not everything has to be Angels in America to have value.
The HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS number actually made me laugh out loud.
Shocked that Uma is that much of a draw, but I'm happy for her.
What's up with the massive drop for Hamilton?
Also, noticed that Once on this Island was 97% full but made less than 50% of their potential. Is that because it's in previews? Hope it pulls through - it's such a strong Tony contender, it would be a shame if it closed before the awards.
^its certainly not in danger of closing, but it’s surprising to see that’s the lowest their potential gross percentage has been since their previews.
Call_me_jorge said: "Kind of shocked Dear Evan Hansen was down this week. Maybe it’s because they gave out more comps for Ben’s family and friends?"
Yes and no. Roughly 3 weeks ago DEH released partial-view front row seats for November (and other months) performances yet priced them only at $159. The producers could have easily charged front row seats Bette Midler style at $999 apiece on Ben's last week to increase its profits but chose not to.
The producers also could have saved premium seats that last week as well and release them in late October or early November and could have easily sold them Hamilton style at $849 apiece and still sell out to increase its profits but chose not to.
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