Broadway Star Joined: 12/9/11
It's probably good I am not a producer as there are a half dozen shows pulling numbers I never would have imagined!
If Cabaret isn’t making a profit right now I think that’s just bad producing.
Stand-by Joined: 11/19/06
Not surprised about Gatsby and never have been. It sold itself as a big Broadway show and while that isn’t what the book is, it’s what audiences want. Death Becomes Her is a far superior show and it’s snagging the same audience who wants Big Broadway. Add in the comedy factor and I see DBH continuing to grow into a big hit. The word of mouth can not be underestimated.
WldKingdomHM said: "They gotta let Harry Potter go soon"
The Lyric is a HUGE theater and as long as Harry Potter is able to make its weekly nugget I think it'll stay there.
It seems to me that small-midsize theaters tend to be the preference of most Broadway producers. If Harry Potter leaves the Lyric, ATG may have a hard time finding a new long-term tenant.
If Harry Potter closes is ATG or the shows producers required to revert the house back to how it originally was, a la Here Lies Love and now Cabaret? I believe the Curran and Mirvish theatres are still in their Harry Potter configurations.
Call_me_jorge said: "If Harry Potter closes is ATG or the shows producers required to revert the house back to how it originally was, a la Here Lies Love and nowCabaret?I believe the Curran and Mirvish theatres are still in their Harry Potterconfigurations."
The producers really assumed this play would run for decades in New York. The changes they made are so major, the cost must have been astronomical.
Call_me_jorge said: "If Harry Potter closes is ATG or the shows producers required to revert the house back to how it originally was, a la Here Lies Love and nowCabaret?I believe the Curran and Mirvish theatres are still in their Harry Potterconfigurations."
The renovations for this were far more structural and substantial than something like HLL or Cabaret (which are more cosmetic) - I would imagine ATG and the producers have worked out a way to split the costs.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/08
inlovewithjerryherman said: "Apparently the weekly nut isn't as high as you'd think. And even if they skirt along breaking even for a year, the upcoming HBO series is likely to give them a big shot in the arm."
A TV show that is at least two years away is not giving anyone a shot in the arm for quite a while yet.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
Kad said: "Call_me_jorge said: "If Harry Potter closes is ATG or the shows producers required to revert the house back to how it originally was, a la Here Lies Love and nowCabaret?I believe the Curran and Mirvish theatres are still in their Harry Potterconfigurations."
The renovations for this were far more structural and substantial than something like HLL or Cabaret (which are more cosmetic) - I would imagine ATG and the producers have worked out a way to split the costs."
The theatre owners may want to keep the theatre at its reduced -- but still large -- size. That may provide more ptions than the original white elephant.
Count me as someone surprised by Gypsy's success. I really thought they would struggle. I still think they might peter out (remember when Beanie in Funny Girl did three straight months of over $1 million per week?). But, this is certainly a great start.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/30/16
Kad said: "The renovations for this were far more structural and substantial than something like HLL or Cabaret (which are more cosmetic) - I would imagine ATG and the producers have worked out a way to split the costs."
ATG covered the costs of the renovation themselves as a bid to get the show in the Lyric. Hence, how the production recouped. Between both the renovation and the capitalization, recoupment would have meant paying back nearly $60million. Which...did not happen.
Plus, the renovation looks 10x better than the Ford’s/Hilton/Foxwood’s (?)/lyric ever did.
As I’ve said before, the path forward after Potter closes is to restore the Lyric back into two medium sized theatres, and unlock the Times Square theatre in the process. It’s what’s best.
Leading Actor Joined: 12/9/23
Broadway Flash said: "As I’ve said before, the path forward after Potter closes is to restore the Lyric back into two medium sized theatres, and unlock the Times Square theatrein the process. It’s what’s best."
The prodigal son returns! That was a quick ban.
Broadway Flash said: "As I’ve said before, the path forward after Potter closes is to restore the Lyric back into two medium sized theatres, and unlock the Times Square theatrein the process. It’s what’s best."
nobody is putting that type of money up.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
OhHiii said: "Kad said: "The renovations for this were far more structural and substantial than something like HLL or Cabaret (which are more cosmetic) - I would imagine ATG and the producers have worked out a way to split the costs."
ATG covered the costs of the renovation themselves as a bid to get the show in the Lyric. Hence, how the production recouped. Between both the renovation and the capitalization, recoupment would have meant paying back nearly $60million. Which...did not happen."
This. ATG paid for the renovations. They spent $23 million to buy out Cirque du Soleil, and then another $10 million to modify the theater.
Cursed Child itself was capitalized at $35.5 million.
Jarethan said: "Kad said: "Call_me_jorge said: "If Harry Potter closes is ATG or the shows producers required to revert the house back to how it originally was, a la Here Lies Love and nowCabaret?I believe the Curran and Mirvish theatres are still in their Harry Potterconfigurations."
The renovations for this were far more structural and substantial than something like HLL or Cabaret (which are more cosmetic) - I would imagine ATG and the producers have worked out a way to split the costs."
The theatre owners may want to keep the theatre at its reduced -- but still large -- size. That may provide more ptions than the original white elephant."
I'm very curious in the renovation - I see online they reduced seating by 400 seats - did they lose seat on all levels or just one or 2? Did it improve sight lines? I remember the Mezz and Balcony being incredibly far from the stage in the original configuration.
I’m sure others can describe it more appropriately, but it seems like they just encased the auditorium with faux walls. They also changed the seat configuration on the first level to have a single center aisle instead of two aisles.
auditorium pre HP:
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Current configuration:
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Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
As I remember, they essentially eliminated the fort 10 or so rows of the orchestra, and moved thee stage ‘toward the audience’. As a result, the mezzanine and balcony levels re that much closer to the stage, as is the rear of the orchestra.
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