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#26

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 12/4/22

ACL2006 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Omg,Ain't No Mo'andKPOPare absolutelyhemorrhaging money."



It's dumbfounding that the producers continue to keep these shows open.
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Ain't No Mo' is supposed to close in February...do you think it'll last?

#27

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I want nothing more than for KPOP to succeed, but with the announcement of FAT HAM coming, I’m kind of wishing it would fold just so FH can keep the in-the-round staging.

AIN’T NO MO is a tragedy, but I feel like they’re going to try to hold out at least until the new year. The stack of comps I saw from a seat filling company the other day was THICK. I think deep down they knew it wouldn’t strike gold, but was going more the “prestige flop” angle. I’m honestly shocked Gabrielle Union isn’t bringing it up in her interviews and giving out tickets herself, since she’s on the circuit promoting “The Inspection”.

I feel like too many producers got impatient and that’s how we ended up with such a stuffed fall season. The amount of anticipated shows for the spring is far less as of right now, and if the current shows don’t succeed, there’s going to be a lot of empty theatres come Tony time.


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#28

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K-Pop’s gross probably isn’t even enough to cover the cost of the salaries. That’s a terrible sign. 


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Updated On: 12/6/22 at 02:49 PM

#29

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Dumbfounding? Is it your money? Then who carers. People are employed - and hopefully through the holidays.

Ain't No Mo would have been a tough sell even before Covid, and now with Fat Ham opening, I don't see it getting any Tony love. They should just let it do the regional theater tour like Clyde's. 

#30

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RippedMan said: "Ain't No Mo would have been a tough sell even before Covid, and now with Fat Ham opening, I don't see it getting any Tony love."

Why would Fat Ham opening prevent Ain't No Mo from getting any "Tony love"? 

#32

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binau said: "I agree bdn223. It's also a show that had almost zero advance before starting, one of the worst I feel I've ever seen in recent years - yet it actually managed to get by and has grown in steam all on its own own footing. I hope they can ride it out and hopefully win Best Musical and become the next Fun Home, Gentlemen's Guide etc."

If wins are based on being deserved, I am hoping that it does not win; that'll mean that we have at least one musical still to come that would be arguably better than it.  I would love to have a huge hit musical this season.  I can only think of NYNY as definitely opening this season after SLIH; not sure I can remember any other new musical scheduled to open before season end. 

#34

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EDSOSLO858 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "EDSOSLO858 said: "Would it be wrong to say that& Julietwill close in the spring and become a cult classic?"

...what would make you say that?
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As Jarethan said, it feels like the show should be doing better than it is, especially with the reviews it got.


I am not opining on when &Juliet will close.  All I am saying is that I would have expected it to be doing better already, after what I view as a good number of money reviews.    If I were a betting person, I would bet that it will be around this time next year; I am just not sure that it will be a financial hit if its grosses don't go up and stay up. 

Maybe we are just seeing another impact of Covid.  Whereas people might have rushed out in the past, we can hope that they are just taking their time.  We don't need well-reviewed broad-audience-appealing musicals to underperform on top of everything else.

#35

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KPOP is closing this coming Sunday, December 11.


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#36

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Lola Getz2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ain't No Mo would have been a tough sell even before Covid, and now with Fat Ham opening, I don't see it getting any Tony love."

Why would Fat Ham opening prevent Ain't No Mo from getting any "Tony love"?
"

Fat Ham has won a bunch of acclaim and a Pulitzer. It's a shoo-in for Best New Play.

#38

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ACL2006 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Omg,Ain't No Mo'andKPOPare absolutelyhemorrhaging money."



It's dumbfounding that the producers continue to keep these shows open.
"

I don't think--and i could be wrong, everyone relax--that the producers of plays like Aint No Mo--without celebrities--are expecting to make $$ off a big Bway house run. OF course they want to, and work to position the production as best as possible, but to their immense credit, i think they are trying to expose as large an audience as possible to art. I applaud their effort. 

 

Re &Juliet: if the show is making more than $1m, and cant turn a profit, at what point can we just look at the producers and call them crazy? 

#39

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RippedMan said: "Lola Getz2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ain't No Mo would have been a tough sell even before Covid, and now with Fat Ham opening, I don't see it getting any Tony love."

Why would Fat Ham opening prevent Ain't No Mo from getting any "Tony love"?
"

Fat Ham has won a bunch of acclaim and a Pulitzer. It's a shoo-in for Best New Play.
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It may be a shoo-in your eyes but not going to win a Tony for best play. That's between Prima Facie and Leopoldstadt


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#41

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Fat Ham has won a bunch of acclaim and a Pulitzer. It's a shoo-in for Best New Play.

I still don’t know why you feel Fat Ham opening the same season would automatically take Ain’t No Mo out of the running for “Tony love”. If you are implying because it won the Pulitzer it will automatically win Best Play, I think that is a stretch. And  don’t rule  out Cost of Living (Also a Pulitzer winner)? Leopoldstadt (Olivier)? 

And Tony "love "could go well beyond Best Play. But to take Ain’t No Mo out of the race when we haven’t seen the Broadway productions of  Pictures From Home, Prima Facie, Good Night, Oscar, or Summer, 1976 …seems odd.

Updated On: 12/6/22 at 08:27 PM

#42

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Getting ready for yet another situation where the super progressive show gets a dozen nominations because it appeals more to the nominators and then the more traditional shows get the wins because it appeals to the voters more. 

Fat Ham and Aint No Mo are 100% nominations bait, but it's hard to see them beating Leopoldstadt for Best Play. 

However, the only other play category I think you can really predict is Jodie Comer for best actress. There are just SOOOO many plays this season that it becomes so hard to make predictions with any amount of confidence. 

 

#43

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PipingHotPiccolo said: "ACL2006 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Omg,Ain't No Mo'andKPOPare absolutelyhemorrhaging money."



It's dumbfounding that the producers continue to keep these shows open.
"

I don't think--and i could be wrong, everyone relax--that the producers of plays like Aint No Mo--without celebrities--are expecting to make $$ off a big Bway house run. OF course they want to, and work to position the production as best as possible, but to their immense credit, i think they are trying to expose as large an audience as possible to art. I applaud their effort.



Re &Juliet: if the show is making more than $1m, and cant turn a profit, at what point can we just look at the producers and call them crazy?
"

It is not about turning a profit, it is about how much of a profit.  The bigger the weekly profit, the sooner it will return its investment.

if I remember correctly, Jeckyl / Hyde ran for almost 4 years and did not return its investment, because it did not turn enough profit each week.  In the 70s, Shenandoah ran 2 1/2 years, a good run in those days, and did not return its investment for the same reason.

#44

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quizking101 said: "I want nothing more than for KPOP to succeed, but with the announcement of FAT HAM coming, I’m kind of wishing it would fold just so FH can keep the in-the-round staging.
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Fat Ham is more thrust than in-the-round. I doubt Circle would be a good fit unless they can magically put a front yard there without it seeming too spread out.

#45

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I imagine that the team behind Fat Ham has been putting a lot of thought behind staging the show in a bigger theater for quite a while.   It was rumored back at the end of October that the AA had been rented to an outside production.  Then on Veteran's Day about a month ago they did a reading there.  It seemed obvious that the announcement that they were going into that theatre would come eventually.

I don't think there was anything that they did at The Public that couldn't transfer well to a standard theatre.  The whole first row being lawn chairs more seemed just like a gimmick to add some extra seats.

"The play is the thing," and not the set.


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#46

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jkcohen626 said: "Getting ready for yet another situation where the super progressive show gets a dozen nominations because it appeals more to the nominators and then the more traditional shows get the wins because it appeals to the voters more.

Fat Ham and Aint No Mo are 100% nominations bait, but it's hard to see them beating Leopoldstadt for Best Play.

However, the only other play category I think you can really predict is Jodie Comer for best actress. There are just SOOOO many plays this season that it becomes so hard to make predictions with any amount of confidence.


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Hold on ! Just last month Patti Lupone told Sunny Hostin that THE PIANO LESSON was going to win everything!  Discussion closed. 🤪

#47

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Jarethan said: "if I remember correctly, Jeckyl / Hyde ran for almost 4 years and did not return its investment, because it did not turn enough profit each week. In the 70s, Shenandoah ran 2 1/2 years, a good run in those days, and did not return its investment for the same reason."

Memphis broke even just a few days before it closed on Broadway.

#48

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David10086 said: "jkcohen626 said: "Getting ready for yet another situation where the super progressive show gets a dozen nominations because it appeals more to the nominators and then the more traditional shows get the wins because it appeals to the voters more.

Fat Ham and Aint No Mo are 100% nominations bait, but it's hard to see them beating Leopoldstadt for Best Play.

However, the only other play category I think you can really predict is Jodie Comer for best actress. There are just SOOOO many plays this season that it becomes so hard to make predictions with any amount of confidence.


"

Hold on ! Just last month Patti Lupone told Sunny Hostin that THE PIANO LESSON was going to win everything! Discussion closed. ?
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I honestly can't tell if that was joke or not, lol

Either way, Piano Lesson is a revival and there is no chance Danielle Brooks is beating Jodi Comer. 

#49

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jkcohen626 said: "Getting ready for yet another situation where the super progressive show gets a dozen nominations because it appeals more to the nominators and then the more traditional shows get the wins because it appeals to the voters more."

Sorry but I am going to have to call you out on this. Do yourself a favor: make a list of the shows that support your thesis over the last, say, 5 or 10 years. When you realize you have a blank sheet of paper, feel free to promise us that henceforth you will think first so as to avoid the embarrassment of posting incorrect info. We will all think way more of you for your courage.

 

#50

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jkcohen626 said: "Getting ready for yet another situation where the super progressive show gets a dozen nominations because it appeals more to the nominators and then the more traditional shows get the wins because it appeals to the voters more.
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Say wha? Example?

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