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#25Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/6/15 at 6:47pm

Age aside, I'm so excited about Ben's casting. Thought he was spectacular in The Hour on BBC/BBC America- three years later and I still miss that show). From what I've seen of his film work, very versatile- everything from dying poet to androgynous Shakespearean magician to Q (another role he was cast young for).


The rest of the cast looks amazing as well. I remember studying this in a few different literature and theater classes but never around the time of a major live production, so I'm interested to see how it turns out.

AwesomeDanny
#26Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/6/15 at 6:53pm

I'm not much of a fan of Van Hove's work, but everything else about this so excites me. I don't mind if Proctor is significantly younger than he historically was as long as it makes sense within the world created onstage. It's historical fiction; I don't mind if some details are fudged. But the most exciting thing about this, for me, is Phillip Glass's score. I am very much looking forward to hearing thoughts on what will probably be a very divisive production.

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#27Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/6/15 at 8:33pm

Oh boy! This is by far my favorite stage drama. I vividly remember reading it at age 15, at midnight, because I just wanted to find out what happened next!


Can't wait to hear what house it will play in. Are they still in need of a Mary Warren? Because my schedule looks pretty clear. Hehe


Ciaran Hinds was one of the best things about the Phantom movie so it'll be cool to see him live. "A full house Andre, we shall have to refund a full house!"


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#28Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/6/15 at 11:01pm

I'm sure Sophie Okonedo will do a good job, but considering "The Crucible" takes place in colonial America, should this play be subject to colorblind casting?


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That Groovy Guy
#29Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/6/15 at 11:14pm

No James2, it shouldn't.  Having a black Elizabeth Proctor is completely ridiculous.  Now let the flame war begin.


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LightsOut90
#30Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 1:03am

the black Elizabeth Proctor thing is a huge issue, especially because JOHN PROCTOR OWNS A F*CKING SLAVE!!! 

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Phillypinto
#31Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 1:37am

it could add a layer to the story. I mean, you don't know the character's backstories. Maybe Elizabeth is secretly his slave, and thats part of the issue with their "marriage." Sophie Okonedo is gonna be amazing!


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#32Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 3:19am

A View From The Bridge AND The Crucible on Broadway, in the same season with stellar casts is just an embarrassment of riches!

Emma MK
#33Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 4:24am

I may have to read The Crucible as when i saw it in London with Armitage, i really didnt enjoy it very much. This was possibly due to the fact that i was sat up in the Gods and couldnt hear much of what was being said, and the fact that i was distracted by the mouse that ran across my foot about 40 minutes in. I went to the first preview and it was just under 4 hours long and i found myself getting very bored, especially as there was only one interval. I almost wish id gone back to see it later in the run as they shortened it quite a bit, but i just could bring myself to do it at the time in case i still didnt like it the 2nd time around.


I think reading it will help me understand it a bit better and fill in some of the blanks for me.


I saw Whishaw in The Bakkhai just last week and he was incredible, so im really looking forward to seeing what he would be like as Proctor.

Updated On: 8/7/15 at 04:24 AM

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#34Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 4:44am

why couldn't they cast an american actor to play Proctor? I mean, its not like the London cast is coming over together like the cast of A View From the Bridge


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#35Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 8:20am

Where will this go? I could see it at the Cort if there is no prior tenant. 

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#36Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 8:25am

In a realistic, period-appropriate production of the show, perhaps colorblind casting might be seen as out of place.


But I highly doubt Van Hove will be doing a realistic, period-appropriate production. And if that's the case, then, frankly, as long as the actor is fantastic, who cares? Aside from morons, of course.


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neonlightsxo
#37Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 9:18am

Also in the cast are DEATH OF A SALESMAN's Bill Camp as Reverend John Hale, OF MICE AND MEN's Jim Norton as Giles Corey, THIS IS OUR YOUTH's Tavi Gevinson as Mary Warren, and THE COAST OF UTOPIA's Jason Butler Harner as Reverend Parris.


https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ben-Whishaw-Sophie-Okonedo-Saoirse-Ronan-and-Ciaran-Hinds-Set-for-THE-CRUCIBLE-Revival-on-Broadway-Dates-Set-20150806


Tavi? Really? Ugh.

Updated On: 8/7/15 at 09:18 AM

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#38Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 9:26am

I didn't mind her in This is Our Youth, and Mary Warren is a fairly small role.


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neonlightsxo
#39Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 9:31am

I'm not a fan. On the plus side, Jim Norton!

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#40Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 10:24am

I'm not familiar with Bill Camp, but I hope he does really well in the role for a good friend of mine. She has a special love for Hale's character.


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LarryD2
#41Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 10:42am

 Bill Camp is a brilliant character actor and was amazing in Ivo Van Hove's production of THE MISANTHROPE. The supporting cast is shaping up very nicely.

nasty_khakis
#42Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 10:42am

Am I the only one who found Tavi Gevinson's speaking voice incredibly...strange.

Jonwo
#43Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 10:43am

Theatre wise, there are a few available from January onwards like the Schoenfeld, the Golden, the Cort and also the Brooks Atkinson, my guess is the Schoenfeld or Cort. 

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TalkinLoud
#44Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 11:20am

Wow, I think I'm more excited by the second wave of casting than the first!

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WayTooBroadway
#45Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 11:25am

Probably the Cort after Sylvia?


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#46Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 11:50am

"In a realistic, period-appropriate production of the show, perhaps colorblind casting might be seen as out of place.
But I highly doubt Van Hove will be doing a realistic, period-appropriate production. And if that's the case, then, frankly, as long as the actor is fantastic, who cares? Aside from morons, of course."


 


I just wrote this message in another post because I didn't see this but


 


I would love to comment on this. Black people did exist in the 17th century. There is even a character in this play named Tituba who is black. The idea of Elizabeth proctor being a black woman married to John Proctor and ostracized by the community and an angry young woman is rather brilliant. Throughout the history of the United States there have been countless stories of interracial relationships and interracial sexual assaults on black women. So the idea of a woman that looks as if she could be the product of one of these relationships or assaults in this community is not as shocking to me as it seems to be to others. Do the research and it is there even if your history books want to ignore it.


Also this play is actually about Mccarthyism, the red scare, and the black list. So once again race was huge element during that time. It caused a lot of pain and ruined live of poor black people in America.


 


 

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#47Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 11:56am

Sometimes it is great to read before saying things didn't happen or couldn't be true...


The African American Experience in Salem
As slaves, as free men, as soldiers, and as activists, African Americans have been an integral part of Salem’s culture and economy since the founding of the city in 1626.


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#48Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 12:20pm

"the black Elizabeth Proctor thing is a huge issue, especially because JOHN PROCTOR OWNS A F*CKING SLAVE!!! 

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You do know that slave owners had sex with black women and that even some free black people owned slaves…? This is a real question. Sometimes this message board makes me extremely nervous about how history is being taught in schools and how little people read.

LarryD2
#49Crucible Revival
Posted: 8/7/15 at 12:21pm

Well, if you want to get really technical and talk about history, Massachusetts was one of the first Northern colonies to enact an anti-miscegenation law. So a realistic production would not have a mixed-race couple as John and Elizabeth Proctor. But as others have surmised, this production is either utilizing color blind casting (in which race is not a factor) or a specific production concept in which Elizabeth Proctor's race is important.

Updated On: 8/7/15 at 12:21 PM


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