Evan Hansen Is NOT a sociopath — Page 2

Phantom4ever said: "Back to the thread topic, I find the real objectionable character in DEH to be Alana. The way she immediately turned the suicide into an attention-getting ploy for herself sickened me. I wish she had a song about how empty she felt inside because of her actions.
Lots of people are like that though. In the weeks after 9/11, a friend was visiting me in New York City and she saw firetrucks racing through Times Sq with their lights on. She immediately called her mom back home and asked her to turn on the news to see if they were heading to another terror attack and I could tell she was actually disappointed when there was nothing on the news—-no way to finagle a tragedy into attention on her. Needless to say we aren’t friends anymore."

I know this isn't really on the thread topic, but...SERIOUSLY???? That's just a disgusting attitude for her to have.

Updated On: 2/6/18 at 12:38 AM

I think the responses you see here are two fold:

One: This has been talked about,over and over again, in several other threads

Two: The OP is the one that doesn't want to talk, but rather DEMAND that his opinion is right.

Three: How does criticizing the people of the board HELP the thread, either?

dramamama611 said: "I think the responses you see here are two fold:

One: This has been talked about,over and over again, in several other threads

Two: The OP is the one that doesn't want to talk, but rather DEMAND that his opinion is right.

Three: How does criticizing the people of the board HELP the thread, either?"

Well, it's 1, 2, 3... what are we posting for?

Andy51 said: "This discussion is so 2016-2017."

It says about how little there is to disucuss musical-wise for the 2017-2018 season.

Maybe he's a sociopath, maybe not. He's definitely an asshole. And the people saying "who cares, he's fictional" must lead pretty dull lives if they think fiction can't be discussed.

Dancingthrulife2 said: "Andy51 said: "This discussion is so 2016-2017."

It says about how little there is to disucuss musical-wise for the 2017-2018 season."

I present: Come from Away, Great Comet (and it's disastrous end), Hello Dolly revival, and Christian Borle's failure in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

BroadwayConcierge said: "Dancingthrulife2 said: "It says about how little there is to disucuss musical-wise for the 2017-2018 season."

I will literally discussThe Band's Visitfor ages on end with anybody who'd like!!!"

Strange choice for a Trump supporter.

BWAY Baby2 said: "I am not a Trump supporter- in fact- just the opposite- but I think that mentioning someone's political views when reviewing a show is not really fair- a bit snarky."

They weren’t addressing you. They were addressing Broadway Concierge, who *is* a Trump supporter and the comment was regarding their seemingly incongruous taste in theatre and politicians (a show about communal empathy vs. a politician who wouldn’t know empathy if it was covered in gold leaf and sat in his office).

Back on topic, this thread is mighty unproductive and some folks around here need to brush up on their psychology terms. A sociopath is an individual who has no conscience and displays extreme antisocial behavior. The character Evan Hansen is a lot of things, but he is decidedly not a sociopath.

GeorgeandDot - I, and many folks I know personally, saw the show and still came away thinking Evan is a problematic character. And not in the way that you’re implying. I don’t find any of the characters all that complex. Most of them are fairly two-dimensional; acting as plot devices more than living, breathing humans. That doesn’t mean we didn’t understand it. It means we interpreted it differently than you. And that’s fine.

This has been discussed to death here and elsewhere on the board. It’s an opinion, just like the opinion that Evan is a good person. Or whatever. The problem I have with the show has less to do with the unlikability of its characters and their flaws, and more to do with the saccharine sentimentality it tries to evoke through its music. The score tries to impress on us the same kind of warm-and-fuzzies one might get from watching videos of dogs being reunited with their owners or inspiring stories of people overcoming physical disabilities with its soft pop-rock, top 40 sound. And yet, for all of this preaching that if we just listen to the real needs of the people around us and help them heal, there is not ONE. SINGLE. RESOURCE. listed in the Playbill or in the theater for suicide prevention or mental health services. This was especially offensive to me after being rubbed the wrong way for 2.5 hours by the use of suicide as a plot device and nothing more.

I’d be down to watch a show that actually explores the reality of the themes presented by the writers here. But there is nothing realistic about the circumstances DEH, as written and produced, presents in current state.

Updated On: 2/7/18 at 01:16 PM

Whenever I read subject line, I start imagining Evan Hansen singing "I'm no sociopath/I'm no Sylvia Plath" from Next to Normal.