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#126

Posted: 4/10/19 at 2:04pm

I found it beautifully done, the amount of detail was amazing. Even knowing much of it going in I found myself intrigued. The Big Spender scene alone filled in so much of the picture I imagined from reading about Fosse. Maybe you need to be a theater or Fosse wonk but I even loved the Kit Kat girls make up scene. For all those years suffering through half baked theater representation on the tube and in film I found this is a breadth of fresh air. And, Williams portrayal of Verdon is already heart breaking. Can’t wait for next week.

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#127

Posted: 4/10/19 at 2:07pm

evic said: "I loved it. Well acted , directed and filmed. One little detail was not true. A man did not play the gorilla in the Cabaret number. It was done beautifully in the film by the late Louise Quick. I am surprised they overlooked that. Not that viewers would care. I thought Williams and Rockwell were perfect in their roles.
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With all due respect, that sequence was when they were being presented with the German costume designer's version of the gorilla costume. That is one of her assistants wearing the costume. Due to Nicole Fosse being consultant on the series and who was present during filming, I'm sure she would have had them show Louise Quick getting into the costume had they shown the filming of the actual number, which they did not.

#128

Posted: 4/10/19 at 2:14pm

I have to admit, I found the back and forth a bit much - but, to be fair, I've been exhausted. SO, I plan to watch again before next week's episode.

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

#129

Posted: 4/10/19 at 2:29pm

Even with her Oscar nomination for it, I thought Williams was underappreciated for her transformation in MY WEEK WITH MARILYN. Hopefully she can pick up an Emmy for this.

"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards

#130

Posted: 4/10/19 at 2:58pm

The first episode and a first look video are available to download on iTunes for free. The end credits feature a bit of Ethan Slater's "Willkommen" ala Joel Grey.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/fosse-verdon-season-1/id1454055966

Updated On: 4/10/19 at 02:58 PM

#131

Posted: 4/10/19 at 3:10pm

It's beautifully done, and Michelle Williams has every acting award in the bag just based on the premiere alone, but it's definitely a show that is made by theatre people, for theatre people, and I wonder if that'll turn off people after watching it. Hopefully not, but I wonder.

One thing I think Ryan Murphy does so well with American Crime Story and even Feud was putting the stories of these characters in some sort of societal context, and it allowed people to have some way of connecting with their world before delving into the story. Without him on this show and mostly theatre people at the helm, this is like, "Boom! You're in!"

"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008

Updated On: 4/10/19 at 03:10 PM

#132

Posted: 4/10/19 at 3:24pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "evic said: "I loved it. Well acted , directed and filmed. One little detail was not true. A man did not play the gorilla in the Cabaret number. It was done beautifully in the film by the late Louise Quick. I am surprised they overlooked that. Not that viewers would care. I thought Williams and Rockwell were perfect in their roles.
"

With all due respect, that sequence was when they were being presented withthe German costume designer's version of the gorilla costume. That is one of herassistants wearing the costume. Due to Nicole Fossebeing consultant on the seriesand who was present during filming, I'm sure she would have had them show Louise Quick getting into the costume had they shown the filming of the actual number,which they did not.

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There is a ton of lazy writing here - it's not brain surgery to research stuff - it takes about thirty seconds. And yet, as a friend wrote: "after an interesting recreation of Gwen giving valuable creative input to filming Big Spender, she's back in NYC telling Bob about lines outside the Ziegfeld... They did have lines outside the Ziegfeld three years later for Cabaret. I was in one. But she's talking about Sweet Charity, which played at the Rivoli. Bob jokes the lines may be there to see The Love Bug. Gwen says the Ziegfeld has only one screen. Okay this was decades before multiplex venues, and The Love Bug didn't open (at the Music Hall I think) until at least a month after Charity opened at the Rivoli."

#133

Posted: 4/10/19 at 4:53pm

I had the same thought as some of the posters as far the program's lack of universal appeal .Pose for example focused on a select group of people but it was all about community and extended family where friendship often becomes as vital as family. This series is weak thematically.

I also think there is a new trend to start stories in the middle and then jump around before reaching a conclusion. I am not sure that this particular structure of telling the story is serving this series very well.

#134

Posted: 4/10/19 at 5:05pm

everythingtaboo said: "It's beautifully done, and Michelle Williamshas every acting award in the bag just based on the premiere alone, but it's definitely a show that is made by theatre people, for theatre people, andI wonder if that'll turn off people after watching it.Hopefully not, but I wonder.

One thing I think Ryan Murphy does so well with American Crime Story and even Feud was putting the stories of these characters in some sort of societal context, and it allowed people to have some way of connecting with theirworld before delving into the story. Without him on this show and mostly theatre people at the helm, this is like, "Boom! You're in!""

First of all Bob Fosse was also a famous and Oscar winning film director. Cabaret, Lennie and All That Jazz are classics.

The first episode was in fact far more about film than it was about theatre.

If this doesn't get a huge audience, so be it. If it's meant for "us," and we love it, that's enough as far as I'm concerned.

But I somehow doubt that this series' appeal is anywhere near as parochial as some are making it out to be.

It's a story about a power couple and how they, sometimes barely, keep it together.
It' s not just about the biz.

It also has two very popular and uber talented stars, one doing a very fine job and the other giving perhaps the performance of her life.
It's also, in part, much the same story as All That Jazz, which was not exactly a flop at the box office.

And it's a hell of a lot of fun.

Updated On: 4/10/19 at 05:05 PM

#135