Hamilton Cancellation Line- Page 35

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 4/24/16 at 9:47pm

ham4prez said: "Does the cancellation line for Saturday start at the end of the line for Friday?"

Does the cancellation line for Saturday start at the end of the line for Friday?

When I did the line, it didn't start "at the end" of the current line.  Thursday folks were still waiting for 8pm show tickets, and at 7pm, new fans and sitters started setting up for the Friday line.

 


Is there one continuous cancellation line that just keeps rotating?

It seems to continuously rotate with the line sitters.

 

Or are there different lines for different days?

Again, when I did the line, two lines formed at 7pm.  I'm sure if people are starting to line up earlier, they claim their spot and start lining.

 

If I show up at noon on Friday to try and get tickets for Saturday, there will already be people in line for Friday. Do I just get in the back of that line?

When you arrive Friday at noon, ask everyone on line, who is on line for Saturday.  If no one is on line for Saturday, CONGRATULATIONS!  You'll be first!   If anyone got there before you, I would think there would be a separate line forming.

GOOD LUCK!

Updated On: 4/24/16 at 09:47 PM

[thinkoflaura]

Posted: 4/25/16 at 7:47pm

MyFavoriteBrunette said: "ham4prez said: "If I show up at noon on Friday to try and get tickets for Saturday, there will already be people in line for Friday. Do I just get in the back of that line?

When you arrive Friday at noon, ask everyone on line, who is on line for Saturday.  If no one is on line for Saturday, CONGRATULATIONS!  You'll be first!   If anyone got there before you, I would think there would be a separate line forming.

GOOD LUCK!

"

100% agree.  When we were waiting on a Wednesday in March, around 10am, some girls did exactly that -- they confirmed if everyone was waiting for Weds tickets, and then announced that they were starting the Thursday line.  At that time, we were lined up in front of the theater, so they lined up in another area... I don't know how to explain it, like if your back is to the theater entrance, they went to the right (towards the Marriott) in front of a big black parking/alley gate.  

Later on - as it got closer to Wednesday's matinee showtime, the Wednesday line was relocated to the same area the thursday girls were waiting (because otherwise we'd be blocking the main entrance to the theater).  The thursday girls scooted back toward the fence and we - keeping our line order - lined up in front of them, closer to the sidewalk.  Everything was very civilized.  And the pro line sitters will advise you if necessary... but if you're "first" in your line, I'd claim that theoretical spot before you ask for logistical help about where to stand, you know what I mean?  

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 4/25/16 at 8:05pm

This line really sounds like some Hunger Games endurance test bull****. Can someone even enjoy a show after waiting like this? I mean, we are always stressing that actors are real people, well so are patrons. It would be awfully humane to create some type of online or virtual waiting area or list. Show your fans some empathy and compassion. Jesus. Oh yes, I know people will say no one is making them wait, but I still think it's just terrible 

[steins]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 3:50am

Cannot believe my shear luck! Found a way to be back in NYC in 2 weeks!!! Gonna do the cancellation line again! You guys have no idea how excited this is... I am still having post-concert syndrome almost after a week. 

[casedilla2]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 3:54am

Bettyboy72 said: "This line really sounds like some Hunger Games endurance test bull****. Can someone even enjoy a show after waiting like this? I mean, we are always stressing that actors are real people, well so are patrons. It would be awfully humane to create some type of online or virtual waiting area or list. Show your fans some empathy and compassion. Jesus. Oh yes, I know people will say no one is making them wait, but I still think it's just terrible 

 

Honestly, I'm not sure how many actual theater patrons are doing the cancellation line anymore. It seems to be almost completely overtaken by the paid line sitters. I search "cancellation line" on twitter sometimes to see what the line is like, and there's been a distinct decrease in tweets about it over the past week or two which leads me to believe that fans aren't doing it anymore. The wait is now between 30-40 hours (on the higher side of that to be within the first couple in line). I've been thinking about doing it again, but I just can't justify waiting that long and still possibly not getting a ticket. :/

 

Posted: 4/26/16 at 11:26am

I'm sorry if someone already addressed this (I checked the FAQ too)... but is there wireless available at the Richard Rodgers? I know someone mentioned the Starbucks at the Marriott, but I figured we wouldn't be in range.

I'm going to try this weekend, but if the line is long by the time I get there, I am going to go to sleep and watch a different show. I'm not about to wait 30 hours in line either.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 11:29am

Bettyboy72 said: "This line really sounds like some Hunger Games endurance test bull****. Can someone even enjoy a show after waiting like this? I mean, we are always stressing that actors are real people, well so are patrons. It would be awfully humane to create some type of online or virtual waiting area or list. Show your fans some empathy and compassion. Jesus. Oh yes, I know people will say no one is making them wait, but I still think it's just terrible "

So much of Hamilton feels so grotesque to me now. Not the show itself, but all the surrounding stuff like this. I know no one has to see a show and no one has to go these great lengths because it's not life or death, but this just feels degrading.

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 11:30am

steins said: "Gonna do the cancellation line again!'"

 

 

I feel your pain!  LOL!  I've got 14 days til I see the show again via StubHub and would love to see it a 3rd & 4th time.  GO FOR IT STEINS!  We know it can happen again!

 

[sarahb22]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 12:04pm

LizzieCurry said: "So much of Hamilton feels so grotesque to me now. Not the show itself, but all the surrounding stuff like this. I know no one has to see a show and no one has to go these great lengths because it's not life or death, but this just feels degrading."

What's really discouraging is when you go on Ticketmaster and see performances where a full 1/3 of the house is for sale, meaning tickets are available…but the prices START at $800, for partially obstructed seats.  It's not that tickets aren't available; it's that the brokers have a lot of them and are selling them for insane prices.  

What's really sad is that there have been reports of empty seats at the shows (sometimes whole rows of them), because they were priced too high and the brokers didn't sell them. Very aggravating!

Updated On: 4/26/16 at 12:04 PM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 12:05pm

If that's happening enough, empty seats and brokers losing money, maybe they'll stop buying them all up. But we're not there yet.

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 12:40pm

koremglish said: "is there wireless available at the Richard Rodgers? I know someone mentioned the Starbucks at the Marriott"

When I waited in March and the line was to the left of the main front doors of the theater, I was able to be on my iPad via the Marritott Marquis Theater WiFi.  Now that the line forms to the right of the front doors of the theater, I can't speak to what WiFi is a available there.

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 12:47pm

Here's a visual of where the line forms now.  This was Sunday at 5:30pm

[sarahb22]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 12:51pm

neonlightsxo said: "If that's happening enough, empty seats and brokers losing money, maybe they'll stop buying them all up. But we're not there yet."

Maybe, but they're making such an obscene profit on the seats they DO sell that I'm sure they don't care about losing a few bucks on the ones that don't. I mean, they buy them at face value, so even if ten seats don't sell that's what, only $1770 out of their pocket?  Meantime they're selling orchestra seats for $3000 EACH.  They still make money hand over fist, and if theatergoers miss out, well, that's not their problem.  They just throw the tickets in the trash and work on programming their bots to snap up the next round of released tickets.

Updated On: 4/26/16 at 12:51 PM

Posted: 4/26/16 at 1:35pm

MyFavoriteBrunette said: "koremglish said: "is there wireless available at the Richard Rodgers? I know someone mentioned the Starbucks at the Marriott"

When I waited in March and the line was to the left of the main front doors of the theater, I was able to be on my iPad via the Marritott Marquis Theater WiFi.  Now that the line forms to the right of the front doors of the theater, I can't speak to what WiFi is a available there.

 

"

Thanks My FavoriteBrunette!

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 2:17pm

I'm well aware. That's why I said we're not there yet.

[WickedLittleRentHead]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 2:37pm

Say I theoretically went to wait in line on a Sunday for a Monday show, how early do you think I would have to line up? I am talking about in late May or June when there are no Sunday shows. Would I be looking at arriving at like 7 AM on Sunday for a 7 PM Monday?

This is honestly so crazy and I am not sure how I feel about actually contemplating this. I have tickets for October but a) I don't want to wait and b) I want to see Lin perform!

Congratulations to all of you that have scored cancellation tickets, it certainly seems like a tough feat.

[BellaB2]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 4:18pm

I'm so glad I did cancellation line last year, before people went completely crazy. I did it twice in November and the longest I had to wait was 10 hours. That was long enough. 

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 4:27pm

WickedLittleRentHead said: "Would I be looking at arriving at like 7 AM on Sunday for a 7 PM Monday?"

If you're going alone for one ticket, you won't need to wait as long as everyone who is looking for two tickets.  

The photo I posted earlier was at 5:30pm Sunday (no show) so they were lined up for Monday.  I didn't go across the street to ask how many were there for two tickets but my guess is they all were to be there so early.  

If you have the stamina to wait on line and sleep on line at 7am Sunday for one ticket Monday, go for it!  I'm sure you'll be the first on line for one ticket even if you're not first overall.  

I wanted 2 tickets (really wanted to see it with my husband)

I arrived at 3am and was #9 in line.  Never got tickets after 17 hours waiting.

IF I had wanted 1 ticket (which I ALMOST said yes to but thought of my husband)

I arrived at 3am and was #9 in line.  Would have been the second person in line to be offered one of two single tickets and would have been  9.5 hours of waiting.

HUGE time difference as the competition of people waiting for two tickets far outweighs the ones needing one.

The first single ticket went to #7 who arrived at midnight and sold his spot in line for $25.00 to a man who bought it 30 min earlier. 

The ticket I passed on went to #11 who arrived at 8:30am.  Waited 4 hours.

This is all I can share with you.  The amount of time you can invest to wait is a personal one.  I would think as the weather gets warmer, single ticket people with show up more.

 

[Wick3]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 7:30pm

BellaB2 said: "I'm so glad I did cancellation line last year, before people went completely crazy. I did it twice in November and the longest I had to wait was 10 hours. That was long enough."

 

Plus back then they let you wait inside the box office!

 

[Wick3]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 7:34pm

sarahb22 said: "What's really discouraging is when you go on Ticketmaster and see performances where a full 1/3 of the house is for sale, meaning tickets are available…but the prices START at $800, for partially obstructed seats.  It's not that tickets aren't available; it's that the brokers have a lot of them and are selling them for insane prices.  

What's really sad is that there have been reports of empty seats at the shows (sometimes whole rows of them), because they were priced too high and the brokers didn't sell them. Very aggravating!"

Those rows may be empty by the beginning of the show, but the ushers let the standing room folks fill them in after the first song or during intermission.

[MinervaMoon]

Posted: 4/26/16 at 11:50pm

So in May I'm flying back home from study abroad via JFK, and am arriving around 9 PM on a Tuesday. I scheduled my next flight for Thursday so that I could wait in line for tickets to Hamilton. Now I'm wondering if I even will get a chance to do that with "only" a 21-22 hour window. It will be for a Wednesday, so there are two shows, but from what I've read I'm guessing that the matinee people will have started lining up on Tuesday morning (probably a Tuesday morning in 2004 or something).

Should I suck it up and shell out for a line sitter for like 30 hours (yikes), or do I still have okay chances, since I'm only looking for a single ticket? I have a friend or two in NYC who have told me that they would be willing to sit in for me on Tuesday for a while until I arrive, which would be great because I don't have to pay THEM, but I heard there are no swaps anymore. Is this a theatre policy, as in I'd only be in trouble if they caught me, or a line policy, as in the people around me would be pissed for the duration of our time together if it happened?

Thanks for any info you can give. I'm moving to NYC in August but it won't be soon enough to catch anyone who is planning to leave after the 1 year contract is up in July, so I don't want to blow this.

Updated On: 4/26/16 at 11:50 PM

[MISH2]

Posted: 4/27/16 at 6:48am

MinervaMoon said: "So in May I'm flying back home from study abroad via JFK, and am arriving around 9 PM on a Tuesday. I scheduled my next flight for Thursday so that I could wait in line for tickets to Hamilton. Now I'm wondering if I even will get a chance to do that with "only" a 21-22 hour window. It will be for a Wednesday, so there are two shows, but from what I've read I'm guessing that the matinee people will have started lining up on Tuesday morning (probably a Tuesday morning in 2004 or something).

Should I suck it up and shell out for a line sitter for like 30 hours (yikes), or do I still have okay chances, since I'm only looking for a single ticket? I have a friend or two in NYC who have told me that they would be willing to sit in for me on Tuesday for a while until I arrive, which would be great because I don't have to pay THEM, but I heard there are no swaps anymore. Is this a theatre policy, as in I'd only be in trouble if they caught me, or a line policy, as in the people around me would be pissed for the duration of our time together if it happened?

Thanks for any info you can give. I'm moving to NYC in August but it won't be soon enough to catch anyone who is planning to leave after the 1 year contract is up in July, so I don't want to blow this.

 

If you are even considering paying a line sitter for 30 hours, you might be better off just buying a ticket on Stubhub.  Obviously the seats won't be as good as the ones on the cancellation line, but I saw the show from the rear mezzanine in November and it was great.

 

"

 

[MinervaMoon]

Posted: 4/27/16 at 8:17am

I only looked at SOLD, but 30 hours of waiting (worst case scenario) is $610, then about $180 for a ticket = about $790. It's a lot, but I'd end up with an Orchestra seat in the end, with any luck. Stubhub only gives me side Rear Mezzanine for that price. Ticketmaster has $600 for Rear Mezzanine as well, and for this show I think I would dish out the extra $200 to get Orchestra seats. So it seems better to go with a line sitter if absolutely necessary, unless I wanted to gamble on StubHub/TM reducing their prices on the day of, which is not the type of stress I need in my life.

I wouldn't have as much of a problem if I was allowed to send a friend in my stead for a few hours, but again, I don't have firsthand info about how strictly that is policed. If it is truly enforced, it seems to allow only two kinds of people:

-- people with the mettle to spend a whole day and night on the concrete

-- people with the money to pay a line sitter for the whole bulk of time

As long as you're not, for instance, in line for 2 tickets and holding a space for someone who wants 2 other tickets, it doesn't seem like an unreasonable request to want to take turns with a friend. Otherwise, it's like saying that you're only allowed to get tickets in this way if you prove your dedication either physically or through money. I think there is still merit in being rewarded for time commitment, as with many other shows where you can line up at 6 AM to get first pick when the box office opens -- you show you want it more by being there earlier than a 7 AM person or a random raffle. But when it's gotten to this level of mania, I'd hope there was a bit of leeway for people who wouldn't thrive on Survivor.

Updated On: 4/27/16 at 08:17 AM

[rcbell64]

Posted: 4/27/16 at 8:30am

I concur in that, there are no bad seats in the house, really. The theater has a great setup. I WILL say, though, that after seeing the show from the front for center and being close another to get Groff AND Odom spit on me, and then seeing it from the rear mezz, it was a totally different experience. I would wait the 30 hours. Even after doing close to that, twice, I would do it again. Both times I was sick afterwards (once with a brutal cold for ten days and then last time for two days with a virus, I think from being out in the cold combined with no sleep, poor eating and being generally run down) and I would still do it again (and WILL do it again) within the next month. I also want to say that I think the line sitting with a friend or even a "good" line with other fans is part of the experience for me. A shared badge of steadfast resolve and testament to our collective love of the show. Somehow, it felt more like earning it to me and an earned reward feels much sweeter. I know it sounds totally crazy but, after polling my friends who were with me, we all agree. Sitting and being able to look back and laugh about when a guy came by at 2 AM and tried to give my friend a leftover bag of Carmine's food because he thought my friend was homeless (line sitting isn't for the glamorous, we all looked like hot bags of shivering turd by the end of it lol), or cringing about how cold it was, or seeing a young girl burst into grateful tears because she got a picture of Lin. Then, being totally on edge and full of adrenaline when the guys starts coming out with tickets, one by one, and flipping out when you get called. And seeing the show with your heart still pounding with the rush of it all and seeing your fellow line sitters in the audience. And then the show itself. And then having my son tweet afterwards that his favorite actor got spit on him during his favorite song and how excited he was and then have that actor favorite his tweet. It was an experience, the whole thing, and one that I would've paid even more for than we did.

To the person who asked "Can you still enjoy it after sitting out all night?" I daresay I couldn't have enjoyed it more. Just my .02! 

Updated On: 4/27/16 at 08:30 AM

[MinervaMoon]

Posted: 4/27/16 at 9:08am

I can see how the bonding and adrenaline would make it all worth it once you get rewarded with the show, since it sounds amazing. My problem though is not that I don't want to wait 30 hours (even though that's pretty strenuous); it's that I can't wait 30 hours because I won't physically be in the city. 

I guess I'm just asking about the following two questions:

(1) Is 21 hours in advance enough time to be at least reasonably sure to get in?

(2) If not, is line switching policed, and if so, how?