i liked the show, especially the score and performances, and certainly though it was more worthy/intelligent than some of the most lauded shows this year. the reviews seemed harsh, and unnecessarily so.
but thats life! thats the nature of the whole ball game here! these responses--from professionals--are CRINGE
I liked a lot of Lempicka, but those sore loser speeches are a bad look. It’s lovely that they have their gaggle of superfans, and critics aren’t always right, but sometimes you just need to take the L and figure out how to move forward.
NYadgal said: "It’s hard to remember. They went on and on and on and on and on and on. . . And on and on and on. . ."
🎶 Broccoli, hogwash, balderdash, it’s not our fault this show bled cash 🎶
Thanks for posting that, Jordan. You were right. What’s this about “keep making work where people see themselves/where you see yourselves” stuff? I don’t want to go to a show and see myself, I want to see something and someone I know nothing about! Like ColorTheHours mentioned, in a way - too close to the material but also he thinks he IS/SHOULD BE the material.
And thanking the front row screamers whose egos know no bounds and distract the rest of the audience.
Must have been a real energy vampire having him backstage anytime over these last few days.
TheatreFan4 said: "Something I find really weird (despite liking the song), is 'Perfection' becoming like THE song of the show that isn't 'Woman Is' they use it in a lot of promo, the recorded songs, they even scored their "farewell" video with it.
It's a villain song. Its an ode to Futurism, the antithesis of Lempicka's art. I know Chavkin said "the men aren't the heroes or the villains, they're just there." Marinetti is a villain. Sure not until the 11th hour in the show, but he's a real person! He wrote the Facist Manifesto!"
Even though I was overall thumbs down on the show, I've got to say Perfection is my favorite song in any new musical this season. Complaining about naked woman while fetishizing machines always hits me as funny.
But you make a great point about Marinetti straight up being a villain. Likewise, the man Lempicka sleeps with to free her first husband from prison is obviously a villain. There are totally male villains, has Chavkin even seen the show she directed?
I agree that both Gould and Chavkin’s speeches are embarrassing.
”Keep supporting work where you see yourself.” Yes, totally. Agreed. Also, please support work where you DON’T see yourself, because not everything is about you.
You know what one of my favorite plays is? A Doll’s House. Not because I’m an emotionally suffocated, 19th century housewife, but because it’s a great friggin play.
Representation is important. Absolutely. But it doesn’t make a bad show better.
The Distinctive Baritone said: "I agree that both Gould and Chavkin’s speeches are embarrassing.
”Keep supporting work where you see yourself.” Yes, totally. Agreed. Also, please support work where you DON’T see yourself, because not everything is about you.
You know what one of my favorite plays is? A Doll’s House. Not because I’m an emotionally suffocated, 19th century housewife, but because it’s a great friggin play.
Representation is important. Absolutely. But it doesn’t make a bad show better."
Could not agree more- and also, precisely who is currently being "seen" in Lempicka and nowhere else? I *liked this show* but these guys have contorted themselves into thinking they told some bold, totally eyeopening tale that shook the foundations of culture. in realty, they twisted and mangled Lempicka's actual life story, and whitewashed (no pun intended) various characters to try and CREATE some sort of queer anthem out of nothing---and i applaud them their creativity and hope it launches more music from these artists.
but the idea that this is representing some community that isnt represented on broadway? who? lesbians? jews? prostitutes? refugees? artists? this stuff is made of the most consistent theater plot ingredients! i guess its rare for a show to give multiple fascists some big production numbers, so is that the audience hes so excited is finally able to be "seen" ? give me a break.
Hopefully Matt and Carson will focus on work whose end-goal is being performed for a limited run at a not-for-profit. They may find that to be more rewarding, without the stress of having to appeal to masses of paying audiences.
I wanted to love this show but it just didn't work. It can be hard for creative teams to see the forest through the trees, but when you hear these speeches it's no wonder that they didn't make sizable enough changes throughout their 2 out-of-towns, multiple workshops, and previews.
How embarrassing. They had one more chance to erase some of the toxicity and go out on a high note (something along the lines of "thank you to everyone who loved the show and believed in it" etc etc) but instead played the victim one more time. Good riddance to this show. I know it's hard to objectively look at something you are so close to but the creative team would be wise to do some self reflection before embarking on another project.
For a show that used fake NYTimes quotes to try and sell tickets, I thought it would be hard to embarrass themselves more than they already did but they proved me wrong today.
jagman106 said: "binau said: "Can't wait to hear what the closing was like today."
On another theater website, the producers are lamenting that 8 weeks of performances is not enough time to build word of mouth. Actually, there has been plenty of WOM, and for the most part, it wasn't very good. I imagine they'll be playing the victim today, complaining that no one gave them a chance, reviews were unfair, people don't want new or original musicals, and every other excuse we've heard over the last month putting blame on everyone other than those involved in mounting the show."
Sometimes when people have a breakup, there are a lot of raw feelings. Feelings of hatred or betrayal.
It's usually best to talk it out privately with a loved one or therapist, channel those feelings into a project, or go sleep with someone you shouldn't.
Sometimes, instead of doing that, people write a long Facebook/Insta post about how much they hate their ex. While some readers will say "yes gurl drag him!", most people will view it as "old man yells at cloud." The bottom line is, it just looks bad, and we all know that healing will happen with time, without having to air out dirty laundry.
I hate the blame game. That people didn't give it a chance- please. That's ridiculous. The martyrdom shown by the creatives, the "omg broadway is going to die if people don't give shows like this a chance". Step 1. The show has to be good. 2. Make sure your fans aren't annoying 3... Anyone want to add? I'm so annoyed by the fans speaking out that I can't feel sorry that the show is closed!
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Sometimes when people have a breakup, there are a lot of raw feelings. Feelings of hatred or betrayal.
It's usually best to talk it out privately with a loved one or therapist,channel those feelings into a project, or go sleep with someone you shouldn't.
Sometimes, instead of doing that, people write a longFacebook/Insta post about how much they hate their ex. While some readers will say "yes gurl drag him!", most people will view it as "old man yells at cloud." The bottom line is, it just looks bad, and we all know that healing will happen with time, without having to air out dirty laundry.
(how's THAT for a metaphor?)
The first stage of grief is Denial, and it seems that everyone associated with the show has remained entrenched in this stage, making it difficult to move on. Thus, the finger-pointing and lack of accountability for the show's difficulties. The second stage is Anger, and although some of these people may be on the cusp of this stage, their remarks read more like they have not yet reached this second stage. I just hope they can eventually reach the stage of Acceptance because if they continue their careers with a chip on their shoulders, it may be a problem for them in the future. Playing the victim wears thin after a while.