Marc Shaiman responds to Michael John La Chiusa- Page 13
Marc Shaiman responds to Michael John La Chiusa
Joined: 12/31/69
Invalid#300
Posted: 8/13/05 at 12:48am
". . . you have Shaiman posting to the bulletin boards where everybody loves him because he's condescended to go on."
'Condescended' to go on? That's a very interesting choice of word. And as for the thought that 'everbody loves him,' I'd read through this thread to get a more balanced opinion.
For the record, I can say that people in the industry far outside of the realm of these boards have been made aware of what's been said on them. And ultimately, that may be the point.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
Invalid#301
Posted: 8/13/05 at 2:41am
All I can say is I am SO upset!
I go away for a couple of days and NO wrestling of any kind in the works!!
Whats a gal gotta do to get "condescended" to round here you "faux" commentators!
P.S. Mr S- PLEASE tell us 'bout the Helsinki production and esp the teddy bears!!!
Updated On: 8/13/05 at 02:41 AM
Invalid#302
Posted: 8/13/05 at 5:12am
I know DGrant, my eyes popped outa my head when I read that quote since I have never gotten the kind of mudslinging right to my face (that is, until MJLC article!!) as I do every and anytime I post on a message board!!
Helsinki was far too brilliant to write about yet...must let it settle in...seeing again tonight (opening night)
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
Invalid#303
Posted: 8/13/05 at 5:28am
*whines annoyingly* But u will tell us eventually? Kinda curious how some of the jokes translate/travel culturally.
I admit seeing the promo video was one of the few times I've contemplated using "chemicals" to enhance an already enjoyable experience but then -i think of my job and Occ health and peeing into bottles and refrain. *sigh*
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
Invalid#304
Posted: 8/13/05 at 11:49am
I will take a Hairspray or Producers over one of La Chuisa's shows any day of the week. I did like his Wild Party though
Musicals should be entertaining & not boring. I listen a lot to other cd's but rarely his. What can I say ? We are all entitled to our opinion. He should not have named names.That was tacky . All he had to do was make a general statement without getting his panties in a wad over it
Invalid#305
Posted: 8/13/05 at 4:22pm
Mr. Shaiman? I think I did a pretty good job of supporting my assertion that LaChiusa's comments can be taken as neutral observations as opposed to direct insults (not that they should be taken as such, mind you, that was not the challenge; i asserted that they can).
Do I get a burger now?
Invalid#306
Posted: 8/16/05 at 1:26pm
Sorry to bump, I just caught up. Guess the discussion's over for now...
shortydudette, you absolutely made your point, and I'll buy you that burger anytime if Marc doesn't. :) As I discovered early in the thread, when he can't win an argument, he'll drop it and change the subject (perhaps posting something else cool to distract us!) It's too bad he won't "condescend" to have a real conversation about this - not that I blame him.
And thank you Mr. S, because this:
"... my good friend [PianoDan] ..." - Marc Shaiman
... is going on my resume! Heh.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
Invalid#308
Posted: 8/16/05 at 3:44pm
"pianodan"
I discovered early in the thread, when he can't win an argument, he'll drop it and change the subject (perhaps posting something else cool to distract us!)
HUH? If anything, the last week shows I don't even know HOW to back down from a "fight"!
I (and I think everyone) just thinks the whole discussion has gone in circles enough, and it's clear that you and the person posting as "shortydudette" will never concede that his words were rude and PERSONALLY and PROFESIONALLY insulting. I am not saying you need to give up loving his work, I am glad that you do, but I can't say anything more than the mouthful I have about his piece. Aren't you bored by now? I am!
But I would heartily suggest you two contact Bill Clinton for writing gigs for future speaking engagements of his where he defines sex!
Updated On: 8/16/05 at 03:44 PM
Invalid#309
Posted: 8/16/05 at 11:57pm
To quote the greatest musical theatre composer of all time:
"Move on."
Invalid#310
Posted: 8/17/05 at 12:30am
Hey! I was never asked to make a concession. I was asked, in fact, to support my point. And tempted with beef, no less. And now I'm being chastised for doing what I was encouraged to do? That is terribly misleading.
Anyway, I'm not bored. And it's not nice to just end a discussion like that, it's very dismissive.
It's clear Mr. Shaiman will never concede that what he perceived as wildly insulting could have been just that: perception. That doesn't mean the discussion is over.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/4/04
Joyful Music!#311
Posted: 8/17/05 at 8:17am
All's I gots' ta' say is Sunday night I had the pleasure to hear the AMAZING Annie Golden sing a most wonderful arrangement of "Good Morning Baltimore/I Can Hear the Bells" from HAIRSPRAY at Joe's Pub.
Believe me,that marriage of singer and song would of rivaled much of what is being presented at the Met.
It was truly glorious, she's got a voice from the heavens(she also sang a thrilling "Suddenly Seymour")!!
AMAZING!
Joyful Music!#312
Posted: 8/17/05 at 9:51amAnd a great actress too! Assassins anyone?
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/8/05
Joyful Music!#312
Posted: 1/20/14 at 3:34pmHow do y'all think they have both grown as artists in the last 10 years?
Joyful Music!#313
Posted: 1/20/14 at 4:09pmGrown in the last ten years? That's a rather morbid supposition considering that the musical has been apparently dead for a decade now. I imagine that it's coffin is full of hair and fingernails and show tune manuscripts that it just can't stop churning out from the other side.
Joyful Music!#314
Posted: 1/20/14 at 4:23pmI think Marc is still immature and Michael John still has superiority issues. Not much has changed.
Joyful Music!#315
Posted: 1/20/14 at 4:41pmMaybe I've missed something, but when has Shaiman been immature in the past? I haven't heard much from him in ages.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/9/04
Joyful Music!#316
Posted: 1/20/14 at 6:40pmWow. What a trip down memory lane. Eddie Varley, Robbiej's punk look, the late, great Margo Channing...
Joyful Music!#317
Posted: 1/20/14 at 6:42pmAh yes.. Margo Channing was one of a kind. Miss M.C.!
Drama#318
Posted: 1/20/14 at 7:04pmI haven't checked out these boards in years. What a fun, crazy conversation this was. I still think Hairspray is a great musical, but that much of LaChiusa's article was on point. Saddened to learn about Margo, who dispensed thoughtful comments and was friendly in 1-on-1 messages.
Drama#319
Posted: 1/20/14 at 7:42pmWe should erect a memorial for all the pearls that were clutched so tightly they turned to dust in this thread.
Drama#321
Posted: 1/21/14 at 8:37amPersonally, I think they're both great composers. Polar opposites as far as writing styles go but still great.
Drama#322
Posted: 1/21/14 at 9:32amI'm sorry that Marc doesn't participate here any more.
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