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Missing Michael Riedel

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macbeth
#1Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 12:54pm

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/smash-tv-show-broadway

Made me realized how much I looked forward to the good, bad and ugly of his weekly column. With him no longer on the radio, is there any chance of him coming back? 

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TotallyEffed
#2Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 1:13pm

I sort of prefer him missing.

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Kad
#3Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 1:24pm

While I do think there is a place for a gossip columnist in the Broadway landscape- especially to puncture some of the more cloying aspects of the gee-whiz earnestness the industry has embraced as a facade in recent years- Riedel ultimately became such a stridently negative presence that it's hard for me to miss him.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 2/14/25 at 01:24 PM

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everythingtaboo
#4Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 1:48pm

Reading Harvey Fierstein's autobiography, I was reminded of all the fun chats he had with Michael on Theatre Talk. I actually do miss him. I appreciated that he really did love theatre, even as he reveled in the gossip. When he left, he took the last reporting that wasn't afraid to be critical. Yes, he went too far when he a delicious bit he could run with (Bernadette's attendance record in Gypsy) but more often than not, I found him to be accurate in the end, which is why I'm sure people still spoke to him, on and off the record.




"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008

SeanD2
#5Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 1:57pm

everythingtaboo said: "Reading Harvey Fierstein's autobiography, I was reminded of all the fun chats he had with Michael on Theatre Talk. I actually do miss him. I appreciated that he really did love theatre, even as he reveled in the gossip. When he left, he took the last reporting that wasn't afraid to be critical. Yes, he went too far when he a delicious bit he could run with (Bernadette's attendance record in Gypsy) but more often than not, I found him to beaccurate in the end, which is why I'm sure people still spoke to him, on and off the record."

I miss the Riedel of TheatreTalk more than the Riedel of The Post. It would be great if he could come back in a way that embraced the one and not the other. 

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Call_me_jorge
#6Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 2:34pm

Don’t worry, he’ll probably get a Kennedy center honor for his ‘journalism’ this year


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Lot666
#7Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 3:29pm

I say good riddance.


==> this board is a nest of vipers <==

"Michael Riedel...The Perez Hilton of the New York Theatre scene"
- Craig Hepworth, What's On Stage

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George in DC
#8Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 5:02pm

I miss him in "Theatre Talk".  He is a great interviewer and guests seemed to love being on the show.

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#9Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 5:16pm

If he was genuinely loved and missed, a place would've been made for him somewhere. And yet none has.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 2/14/25 at 05:16 PM

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HogansHero
#10Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 5:22pm

everythingtaboo said: "more often than not, I found him to be accurate in the end, which is why I'm sure people still spoke to him, on and off the record."

I seriously doubt that he was right 51% of the time, unless you count half-truths at 50%.

People spoke to him because he was more than willing to be their unquestioning conduit in exchange for either a promise of future info on shows (whether accurate or not) and/or a few drinks at Joe Allen's.

Been there/done that/no thanks.

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George in DC
#11Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 5:30pm

^ Sorry to disagree but I found his interviews very insightful and interesting. I can't think of anyone who interviews people from the theatre community as well as he did - certainly not the person who interviews for this site.

Timon3
#12Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 5:55pm

Of course he was a complete arrogant arsehole, that’s what made him irresistible.

He did say on the Broadway tradition of when someone dies is to dim the marquees, he said when he dies that Broadway operators will brighten the marquees.

Updated On: 2/14/25 at 05:55 PM

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Melissa25
#13Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 6:36pm

I really miss Theater Talk.

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HogansHero
#14Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 9:30pm

George in DC said: "^ Sorry to disagree but I found his interviews very insightful and interesting. I can't think of anyone who interviews people from the theatre community as well as he did - certainly not the person who interviews for this site."

I assume you are talking about his work on Theatre Talk, not his gossip column in the Post. I don't disagree with you on the former, which was usually quite good, but I was under the impression the OP was talking about his columns, which were garbage. There is a not-at-all well-kept secret explaining this seemingly inexplicable contradiction, and her name is Susan Haskins. As his co-host and the show's EP, she had no tolerance for his other (frankly much more native) persona. She made him a better human for a half an hour a week, and I think he appreciated it even though he was either unable or unwilling to hold onto it when she was not around. 

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everythingtaboo
#15Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/14/25 at 11:04pm

Kad said: "If he was genuinely loved and missed, a place would've been made for him somewhere. And yet none has."

Where in modern days is there a place for theatre journalism of any sort?




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#16Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 1:39am

^the pages of Vanity Fair apparently

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HogansHero
#17Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 1:41am

everythingtaboo said: "Kad said: "If he was genuinely loved and missed, a place would've been made for him somewhere. And yet none has."

Where in modern days is there a place for theatre journalism of any sort?
"

Well... there are physical newspapers and magazines that have a place for theatre journalism on a regular basis, and there are a multitude of online newspapers and magazines that employ theatre journalists. All of these exist in "modern days" I am surprised you are suggesting you have a blind spot for this.

ghostlight2
#18Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 9:09am

"I seriously doubt that he was right 51% of the time, unless you count half-truths at 50%.

People spoke to him because he was more than willing to be their unquestioning conduit in exchange for either a promise of future info on shows (whether accurate or not) and/or a few drinks at Joe Allen's."


Or Angus McIndoes, where he was punched in the face by David Leveaux, after Riedel called the 2004 Fiddler on the Roof revival "de-jewed,". Riedel used to hang out at Angus' upstairs bar, eavesdropping on patrons, many of whom were actors, musicians and crew members, unwinding after their shows. Occasionally, he would insert himself  into their conversations, asking them leading questions, trying to get them to say something bad about their production that he could use.

Initially, many would talk to him, because he was always alone - and they didn't know who he was. As his questions got more and more pointed, people would start to withdraw. Sometimes he would get called out, and he would become belligerent and goading. On more than one occasion, he had to be told to stop harassing patrons.

Some of what he wrote about was from these overheard, taken out of context conversations in a bar. These he would often attribute to "sources who work on the production" or more despicably "my spies connected to the show tell me"...and sometimes he just made things up.

From the Gawker article I linked to:

"Riedel is obsessed with the negative—and he's admitted as much in the past: 'I love a fiasco, and I love to watch it all fall apart.' "

HogansHero is right. A great deal of what Riedel wrote was inaccurate. I think some people spoke to him because they didn't want to get on his bad side. From that same article:

"He's also been accused of harboring grudges against specific producers and directors. In recent years, he's trained his ire on Dance of the Vampires, The Scarlet Pimpernel, Sweet Smell of Success, and Seussical! "

You can add Titanic the Musical to that list. He completely invented a backstage drama there that never happened. He referred to it in article after article for at least a month.

It was an absolute fabrication - but, hey - "sources told" him, so it must be true.

I'm with TotallyEffed and Kad. I'm finding it hard to miss Riedel.

Updated On: 2/15/25 at 09:09 AM

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IronMan
#19Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 9:57am

If you're missing Riedel so badly, maybe you need better aim? 


"What- and quit show business?" - the guy shoveling elephant shit at the circus.

Joviedamian
#20Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 5:27pm

There is a Spin-off version that still tapes today. “Theater: All the Moving Parts” which is hosted by Patrick Pacheco. Michael was a guest on it a few months ago.

This version is heavily edited and very formal in terms of format. It’s more educational and informative; unlike Theater Talk where it was both of the later, it was also fun and snarky. 
 

i watch Theater: All the Moving Parts on Youtube—I think it started a little bit after the pandemic.

Here is the most recent episode:

Eureka Day and Wicked: From Stage to Screen | THEATER: All the Moving Parts

Updated On: 2/15/25 at 05:27 PM

Ke3
#21Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 7:09pm

everythingtaboo said: "Reading Harvey Fierstein's autobiography, I was reminded of all the fun chats he had with Michael on Theatre Talk. I actually do miss him. I appreciated that he really did love theatre."

Did he? I watched a lot of TheatreTalk over the pandemic and they consistently mentioned his failure to see the very things he talked about.

 

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joevitus
#22Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/15/25 at 7:31pm

Ke3 said: "everythingtaboo said: "Reading Harvey Fierstein's autobiography, I was reminded of all the fun chats he had with Michael on Theatre Talk. I actually do miss him. I appreciated that he really did love theatre."

Did he? I watched a lot of TheatreTalk over the pandemic and they consistently mentioned his failure to see the very things he talked about.


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I don't remember that at all. 

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#23Missing Michael Riedel
Posted: 2/17/25 at 6:00pm

I remember Michael Riedel from Theatre Talk.  I remember that he would try to dominate the discussion, to the detriment of Susan Haskins-Doloff.  She would barely get a word in during a segment.


"Noel [Coward] and I were in Paris once. Adjoining rooms, of course. One night, I felt mischievous, so I knocked on Noel's door, and he asked, 'Who is it?' I lowered my voice and said 'Hotel detective. Have you got a gentleman in your room?' He answered, 'Just a minute, I'll ask him.'" (Beatrice Lillie)


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