gray_area said: "kennin said: "After watching the movie again, I will say that I think “Come What May” has lost some of its specialness in the translation to the stage. It is no longer a “secret song” and that takes something away."
This was my number one complaint after seeing it last night. Of all the changes they made, I had the most issue with this one.
I am glad that you agree. It is bothering more after watching the movie and seeing how special it was.
kennin said: "I am glad that you agree. It is bothering more after watching the movie and seeing how special it was."
I personally felt it's the reason that the ending didn't have the same impact with me in this show versus the movie because they failed to use Come What May in that context, along with the plot changes dealing with Satine's health status. I'm really confused why they didn't use this song as much as it is the only original song in the movie (granted it wasn't originally written for Moulin Rouge) but I will forever associate MR/Satine&Christain with it. Even the way they staged Come What May (not the reprise one) was kind of lack luster imo. I'm hoping they make changes to it!
Is Roxanne still mashed up with "Tanguera" by Mariano Mores? I didn't see that on the list of songs, and without the Tanguera elements, the song would seem sort of blasé.
darquegk said: "Is Roxanne still mashed up with "Tanguera" by Mariano Mores? I didn't see that on the list of songs, and without the Tanguera elements, the song would seem sort of blasé."
Jordan Catalano said: "OK! I just got off the phone with the box office. They said backpacks and bags are allowed in the theater as long as they’re not oversized and can fit under the seat. I told them about all the reports from last night And he said they weren’t aware of anything like that, but that is not their policy. "
Good for you for getting through
They put me on hold for a long time so I had to leave my number to get called back. FWIW security is a third party contractor so there may be some disconnect between theatre and security line. When they finally called me back the box office employee said there must have been a threat or something since policy was changed suddenly and alert went out on the ninth. She checked and told me that bags over 12x9 would not be allowed —mine was slightly bigger I think and the girl behind me had a smaller one which I guess is why we were treated differently. So I guess to be safe I would pack light and maybe bring a few plastic bags to fold up your stuff with you in case you get hassled out it since the box office made it clear there would be no place to check bags. They gave me the email infocolonial@theambassadors.com in case I wanted to register a concern and told me I should mention broadwayworld in the subject line since I mentioned the discussion that had happened on here.
gray_area said: "kennin said: "After watching the movie again, I will say that I think “Come What May” has lost some of its specialness in the translation to the stage. It is no longer a “secret song” and that takes something away."
This was my number one complaint after seeing it last night. Of all the changes they made, I had the most issue with this one.
two ladies tickets said: "Is there a standby/understudy listed for Satine? "
Understudy for Satine - Natalie Cortez; and the rest of the understudies are: Christian - Joe Caroll, Dylan Paul; Zidler - Kevyn Morrow, Dylan Paul; Duke - Joe Carroll, Kevyn Morrow, Dylan Paul; Toulous - Olutayo Bosede, Kevyn Morrow; Santiago - Daniel J Maldonado; Nini - Natalie Cortez, Morgan Marcell, Jodi McFadden; La Chocolat - Natalie Cortez, Ericka Hunter; Arabia - Natalie Cortez, Ericka Hunter; Baby Doll - Morgan Marcell, Fred Odgaard"
No surprises for understudies, except I thought Fred Odgaard would cover the Baby Doll role before a female cast member. Not now, but down the road, I’d be interested to see how Joe Carroll takes on Christian and likewise with Natalie Cortez as Satine.
If Natalie Cortez is understudying Satine, what have they done to the role? She’s incredibly talented, but couldn’t be less of a Satine based off the movie. How have they rewritten this role? Did she only come across so demure because of Kidman’s limited vocal capabilities? Karen Olivo already had me interested in the change, but I can’t even begin to envision Natalie Cortez in that role.
ren598 said: "EllieRose2 said: "If someone could take a photo of the merch booth I would appreciate it so much! Or if you buy any merch, take a photo? Please and thank you!"
Not sure if anyone has responded to this, here’s my photo of the merch booth @ Moulin Rouge.
"Of course he's fine with it. It's exciting to be a part of something with so much anticipation and buzz. This "it's a waste not to have him sing" is a fan feeling -- not the actor. I'm not saying he doesn't want to, or might not have been disappointed had any song he had (or thought he would) disappeared."
So....he's fine with it but wait....he may be disappointed with it, therefore not being fine with it. Awesome logical skills.
Or maybe you should stop criticizing everyone and/or learn reading comprehension. I said: he's likely to be fine with if even if at one point he MAY HAVE BEEN disappointed with it. Which means initially, or until he understood why or even NOT AT ALL. And yes, one can be ok with something, even IF they are disappointed in it. You know why? Because he's a grown up.
What, really, is your problem? You attack anyone that deigns to disagree with you and you nitpick at every little thing. Does that really make you feel better about yourself?
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Just heard the Shut Up and Dance/Raise Your Glass/I Wanna Dance With Somebody medley...yuck.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
I'm all for reinventing something for the stage, and sure if MOULIN ROUGE the film came out today, it likely would have used some more current catalog songs - but the revised song lists almost feels like they may have deviated too far. And then too MOULIN ROUGE was the first to do this kind of musical mashup, which since we've seen used in every jukebox musical, Glee, etc. Does this concept still feel fun and fresh?
“I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.”
robskynyc said: "jacobsnchz14 said: "Are the windmill or elephant utilized in any way, staging-wise?"
i would hope to god they perform the elephant love medley on/around the elephant otherwise what would be the point of the elephant?"
The elephant on the side of the stage was just a huge adornment that wasn’t used or moved as far as I could tell. Her dressing room which is described as under elephant was center stage not near the big elephant
I’m just disapointed that ‘show must go on’ didnt make it, they could easily put it in, Satine even mentions the title. I guess they cant get the right for the song.
The production was incredibly entertaining. The sets and lights were breathtaking, the choreography captivating, and the performances by every single body on stage were beautifully diverse and enthralling (Who knew hearing 3 men harmonize on Sia's "Chandelier" was so essential to life? I do now.
Sadly, the dramatic structure and the book do not deliver at adapting the heart of the story from the original film. Creative liberties are essential in this kind of adaptation, but the focus on the energy of the Moulin Rouge purposefully overshadows the love story and conflict of the characters. The performers do their best with what they were given (awkward monologues, giggle-inducing song fragment inclusions, etc), but the dramaturgical struggles meant that anyone who was not familiar with the new pop hits infused into the score sat confused. Anyone who had not seen the movie might also wonder at the purpose of several of the numbers.
It became exhausting that every time a more contemporary song was introduced, there was a huge audience giggle. I think this is partly due to the fact that, unlike in the original movie, the songs are basically sung as recorded by the pop artist and not reimagined to meld into the story being told.
(Please also cut or edit the 25+ minute preshow strutting around the stage nonsense. The ensemble sold it well, but it was completely unnecessary in current form - perhaps something was off due to it being the first preview and first public performance for the new managing company.)
Karen Olivo KILLS "Firework" (in the best way) but that song felt completely wrong and I really, really disliked the inclusion of this song instead of literally ANYTHING ELSE. She also didn't sing all of it (most of the songs are only fragments, so nothing is fully performed except for the mash-ups). Aaron is obviously divine. Sahr Ngaujah is the HIGHLIGHT/surprise of the show. His Nature Boy was the best acted, most understated moment in the piece and if the rest of the show followed-suit in the supposedly character-driven moments, it would benefit greatly. He also had a great speech about the fear artists should inspire in this world. Round of applause for all on that one.
Strangely, the spectacle does a fantastic job of distracting you from the moments when you see the veneer thin. I left the theatre entertained, but not moved. Still, I believe that with the source material given, and the INCREDIBLE talent of their ensemble of performers, there is the potential for an amazing marriage of all essential elements of theatre. This is what out-of-town tryouts are made for. Broken legs to all involved!
(As for backpacks, there was a table for the backpacks at the end of the night, so at some point, they seemed to collect them and return after. There was no formal check - maybe something for them to consider. I was also given some grief about my napsack but allowed through. The only challenge was with SO LITTLE leg room, I could see them denying bags for that reason alone.)
I agree that they should re-arrange some of the pop songs. They sound too similar to the originals. I was so pissed when the audience clapped along the beat of Rolling In The Deep, in the middle of a dramatic moment.
I do not get the castingnof Olivio at all. Still it’s very interesting to hear these reports. Surprise to hear of newer pop songs being show horned in, but I guess why not seeing as they did it with the film.
Apparently Baz Luhrmann is credited on the billing page as “Creative Services.” How difficult or feasible would it be to get him onboard in a more collaborative and creative way to help steer the show in the direction more geared toward his original source material?
Very sad to hear that Roxanne doesn’t deliver like it does in the film.. and the songs that have been cut. The show must go on seems to me a gift to stage in the theatre. Hmmm.
Any more detail on the design? Are there many physical set pieces? Does it go to many locations?
I wish they would go back to the structure of Lurhman's film in that he starts with Christian's story (as it is central) and the Moulin Rouge is introduced secondarily. It frames the story much more effectively than what is happening in the show right now.
They also unnecessarily reprised Lady Marmalade at the end of the show after everyone had started clapping. It also highlighted the sexy-entertainment factor being more prevalent and important than finishing with the conclusion of the love story.
There was also a beautiful moment where the male leads speak about Truth Beauty Freedom and Love but those ideals were really NEVER a focal point of the musical until the end (and on the poster). Get back to THAT core and your story might have some more grounded moments.