RENT movie garners exactly zero Golden Globe nods!- Page 7

[Greekmusicalfan]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 7:03pm

katy, that's exactly the spirit we should all have. Unfortunately, it is not shared by everyone, but the fact is that RENT now is preserved forever, many people were touched by it, new fans were created, the cast did us all proud for loving them and sticking with them all these years and that's all that matters !!!!
Yes, I haven't seen it yet, but I am so happy it exists, that even if I find flaws, I will still be happy it got made !

[sanda]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 7:12pm

Since Phantom of the Opera could get Golden Globe nods, I think Rent deserve too. At least, Rent is better than Phantom.

[jarretSF]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 7:45pm

I saw the movie three times in the first week it came out. The first time I saw it I was elated. As a fan of the stage show just seeing it again, after 3 years of not seeing it, even with the differences was wonderful. I walked out of the theatre thinking it deserved awards. I had few complaints, the main one being what they did to "What you Own," Roger on the rocks, Mark shouting to Alexi from the rooftop! Just thought that was cheesy.

The second time I saw it, I thought those performances were PHENOMENAL. Still do. But I saw more flaws. More and more I see the problems with the direction. Take Me or Leave me for example. Loved aspects of it. Traci and Idina kicked A$$. But why were the rest of the cast chasing them through the country club to watch? If I remember correctly Jesse is smiling like he thinks it's hilarious. Shouldn't he be concerned about his friends there? (Although still loved Maureen's Mom's line to Mark at the end of the scene.) And on the same lines, why do Mark, Collins and Angel come up behind Mimi and start singing "No Day But Today" with her to Roger while he's on the fire escape? It's Silly. And don't get me started on Adam's Marlboro Man scene in Santa Fe.

The third time, I was aching to see it on stage again. Just to restore the integrity. I am glad it's preserved on film, and it could've been worse. But it could've also been a lot better.

I thought at most maybe Jesse or Wilson would get a supporting Nod. Maybe the academy will still notice them, but the film as a whole was sloppily edited, the direction was mediocre, and the pacing was...just off.

Kudos to the actors for doing what they could. They're all fantastic. I'll probably even still buy the DVD. Oh well, I'll look forward to seeing the Producers this weekend.

Updated On: 12/13/05 at 07:45 PM

[Marquise]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 7:46pm

"And I am truely sorry it did not deliver for you, Marquise. But to be fair ,could ANYTHING live up to ten or TWENTY years of expectation? I'm just trying to be realistic. I haven't loved the show as long as you, but I told myself not to get my espectations too high, maybe thats why I appreciated the movie for what it was....

No EverythingisRENT my expectations weren't too high at all. I certainly wasn't expecting an epic on the scale of BEN HUR. I went seeing this film with an open mind. I know that in adapting a stage musical for the screen changes are made, that's just a given. Hell, I wasn't even going to let my love for Rosario Dawson blind me. Some of the most highly regarded movie musicals of all time differ from their stage counterparts in one way or the other. But do the changes help or hinder the material is the big question. And in RENT's case, in my opinion the changes hurt it.

I just got back from the 4:05 pm showing of the film. I wanted to at least see it up there one last time on the big screen, for whatever it was worth. I have now seen this film 5 times.

It's not the worst film I have ever seen. Not by a long shot. I guess I just envisioned it differently. Ultimately the stage show is a far superior than this attempt to film it and open it.
I'm appreciative of the effort of the cast, crew and Columbus for making the attempt.

If one good thing comes out of this film at least the core message and Jonathan Larson's beautiful words and music have touched a whole new generation of people.

This is really my last post on the film. For the record I don't have a problem with anybody liking or disliking this film and I'm certainly not dancing a jig that it didn't get any Golden Globe nominations. If anything I was rooting for this film not only to be better but to be an award winning effort like it's stage counterpart.

[starletta8]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 7:46pm

I was surprised and a little disappointed about the lack of Golden Globe nominations... and then I looked at the other categories. They're literally all over the place. And although I'd love to be able to make the Phantom argument as another Phantom fan who detested the movie, it's a different year, with different competition. I'd say Walk the Line and The Producers hurt Rent. Especially the Producers. The movie musical is a small genre, so someone's going to be left out when there's that many of them in a short time span. Unfortunately, it was Rent. (Did you really think Walk the Line wasn't going to be nominated? After all the fawning over it? The Producers, I will reserve comment until I see it.)

Since I haven't posted here often or long, I'm shocked by the hatred floating around. OK, some people love the movie, others like it, others are ambivilant, some dislike it, and some hate it. It's always going to be like that with any piece of work. What I don't understand is why there isn't a general agreement to just disagree around here (since this is apparently nothing new!).

Yes, I'm surprised and a little saddened. But that didn't stop me from seeing the film, and it won't stop me from buying the DVD when it's released. Overall, there are many movies who at least deserved nomination that get left out every. single. year.

[sanda]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:00pm

Well, I think last year there were a lot of movies who deserved a nod more than POTO but didn't get it as well.

Anyway, Golden Globe nod isn't a big deal.

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:02pm

But it is. It is a huge deal. More people would have gone to see the movie. Regardless if it is good or bad. It is a very big deal. Huge.

[sanda]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:03pm

Well, POTO's nod didn't help a lot for its box, did it?

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:05pm

How do you know? It probaly would have done alot worst. As the cast member who posted stated.. the nomination means more people will see the movie. Which is something they desperately need.

[sanda]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:09pm

Well, I can't tell. I only know the movie isn't a hit, even it got a nod. So you can tell it helped a lot?

I am not a rent fan. But I think the movie do the justice of the show and I quite like it.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:10pm

DAME, what's with the He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named treatment? Are you worried about conjuring Anthony's spirit or something? He's not Beetlejuice.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:14pm

*HEAD.DESK*

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:14pm

Anthonyrapp, anthonyrapp, anthonyrapp

[shameless]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:16pm

smartpenguin is gonna wake up in the morning with a shrunken head.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:17pm

Yeah, if you mention his name, he might eat you alive.

[Whiteboy Spice]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:18pm

MB wrote --

"Isn't being blind sided the same as being delusional?"

Semantics, don't you think? By definition, being blindsided means you didn't see something coming. All indicators were pointing to us getting a much more universally warm reception than the one we got. I've done enough films and plays over the years to recognize when audiences are responding warmly and when they're not. So, no, I don't think I or any of us was delusional. We were responding to the comments and feedback we were receiving.

MB wrote --

"I don't need to contact you privately to share my opinion that the people closest to the production of this film - from the cast to the die hard fans have had a difficult time separating the forest from the proverbial tree. "

I wasn't suggesting you contact me privately. I was just underlining the fact that you facetiously referred to the actors who post on this website without naming me or addressing me directly, as if I wasn't the only one who posts. And the forests and trees appear differently to different people. I have never denied that the film is receiving a divided reception. Are you suggesting that Owen Gleiberman in EW, A.O. Scott in the New York Times, Kirk Honeycutt in the Hollywood Reporter, and the other critics who loved the film, or who praised it, were delusional and didn't see the forest for the trees?

"Perhaps if you had been less dismissive of the naysayers on this board and others who - starting over a year ago - expressed major reservations about the script, the casting, and the production, the overall critical and box office reaction to the finished project would have come as less of a surprise to you. "

You point me to a post in which I was dismissive and I will answer this charge. It was certainly never my intention to dismiss anyone. It has always been my intention to engage in discussions and debate, to stand up for what I believe, and to clear up misinformation and rumors.

Again, the surprise comes from such events as an Academy Award-winning producer I know going out of his way to find me at a screening -- I wasn't aware he was there -- to tell me how much he loved it. He thought it would be a big hit, and right up the Academy's alley. I take people at face value when they say stuff like that. I wouldn't call him a friend; he's someone I've met a few times; and as I said, I would never have known he was there if he hadn't approached me, so he had no obligation to say what he said. That sort of response gave me the impression that maybe we had that kind of reception on our hands. And that response was multiplied many times over.

"I respect the work and effort, and in particular your invested interest in preserving Jonathan Larson's legacy. But I can't help but imagine a scenario ten years from now, when you are really able to look at the film objectively to take it's faults at face value and not personally."

I appreciate you saying this, but I don't take the film's faults personally. I take personal attacks or mischaracterizations of my words and/or intentions and references to being "delusional" personally.

I'll say it again: I understand and accept that there are many people out there who dislike or hate or are disappointed with the film. I got it. I also understand and accept that there are many people out there who like or love it. In both groups, there are Rentheads, and in both groups there are people who never even heard of Rent before. I don't think either group is delusional. I think both groups are filled with people expressing themselves. I do wish that people on both sides would conduct their discussions with more respect for one another.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:18pm

I almost posted something dirty, but that is not my usual style so I'm going to let it pass.

I'll just say in that case I'll try to conjure up Rosario and Idina.

Right now, I only got a miniature Adam to appear.

NO it seems I got the Rappster himself to appear, hello Anthony.
Unfortunately I am a RENT lover who was underwhelmed by much of the movie, but I was and am still thrilled to have seen you as Mark.

Updated On: 12/13/05 at 08:18 PM

[Michael Bennett]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:20pm

"Huge finacial Loss", "failure", excuse me but do you all live on another planet ? Last time I checked, those characterizations came with films that made 5-6 million grosses. RENT will make a final tally of $30 million and I don't think it that expensive a film so it can be labelled a financial disaster !"

-- A $30 million dollar profit on a $75-80 million dollar investment (RENT's total budget including advertising) is a huge loss. Enormous.

The film could conceivably turn a profit when International grosses are factored in along with dvd sales and television distribution deals, but as it stands now -- the film is probably one of the biggest financial flops of the year.

[Whiteboy Spice]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:20pm

Seriously, Dame, I'm right here. I can hear you!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:24pm

Smartpenguin, I'll take that. You have enormous powers! (Hello, Anthony.) Perhaps we shall all now run and hide.

Updated On: 12/13/05 at 08:24 PM

[shameless]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:25pm

Just for the record, I too was surprised by the poor response. And in my opinion, you guys did it about as well as it could have been done, and you should all be very proud.

[Fantabulous428]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:26pm

I don't know if nobody's responding because Anthony scared them away(I doubt) or if everyone is in the process of responding. But, I think it's time everyone agrees to disagree. Btw...thanks Anthony. Can I give you a virtual high-five or something?

[Tanssia]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:27pm

What ever happened to agreeing to disagree?

Whether you loved it or hated it, at least you felt *something*, be satisfied with that. The problem with this thread, in particular, is that people want to take satisfaction in the GG news - what they mistakenly think will be the "final straw" to silencing people who are passionate about this film, this musical, and/or this material's message.

Yes, a GG nomination would have helped with the box office, but it would not have drastically swayed the unfortunate divided response to this film either.

Down the road, however, if movie musicals are made anymore, RENT should/can not be pointed to as the downfall of the genre. It will take more than this singular moment to create the tipping point (especially considering it did have some positive reviews).

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:28pm

I'll send the mini Adam over as soon as I figure out how to mail him.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 8:28pm

What do you mean NOT IN YOUR NATURE, penguin!?

Heh....you're funny when you're stuffed.

I don't get what all the fighting is about - those who saw the movie - get the message! Live in peace with your brothers!

But seriously, the fact is the movie didn't garner the awards it may or may not have deserved. Most movies don't get the recognition they deserve.

Be happy there is a movie!

Maybe it's a conspiracy to stop the movie musical industry.

There's always THE PRODUCERS!