RENT movie garners exactly zero Golden Globe nods!- Page 5

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:30pm

Because sweetheart; the subject is their lack of golden globe nominations that just came out today. After months and months of renthead postings.. I think it is ok for those of us that want too to enjoy this a little to do so.

[shameless]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:39pm

Of course, you have the right to enjoy it, but the "Rent sucks" threads and opinions are starting to be as redundant as the "I love Rent" threads and opinions.

And don't call me sweetheart unless you mean it. :)

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:41pm

LOL. Ok.. I wont call you sweetheart doll. Yes the threads are redundant. But the globe nominations just came out this morning. So give us a day or two.

[shameless]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:45pm

Ok, you get one day, but I want to hear some original thoughts or some new complaints. No more talk about Santa Fe or 1989 or blah, blah, blah.

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:46pm

Glad to see you have been granted permission, Dame. LOL.

[LeaGirl]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:47pm

It wouldn't be so thrilling if the majority of Rentheads weren't so INCREDIBLY EASY TO ENRAGE.

Seriously. I'm a huge Rent fan but I have spent many amused hours watching the RAGE of certain people on this board who are sure that anyone who didn't like Rent just "didn't get it" or "hates it already".

I love it. I enjoyed the movie. But you'll have to admit... they're fun to poke at.

[shameless]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:49pm

Hey, I'm all about compromise. :)

[Whiteboy Spice]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:55pm

MB wrote --

"But the lack of GG love for the film is admittedly slightly refreshing to those of us who feel the entire project has been surrounded in slightly delusional posturing by its fans and even some of its cast members on this board."

I must say if you have something to say about my "delusional posturing" I would respectfully request that you say it to my face and not couch it in false language such as "some of its cast members." I'm the only cast member who has posted on this board. Have some courage and take the argument to me, please.

As to your charge, I consider it offensive to characterize my standing up for something I believe in as "posturing." I was -- and am now -- writing from my experience and perspective, which has always been an honest one.

I admit all of us involved in the making of this film have been more than a little blindsided by the intensity of the backlash and the gloating that has occurred in the wake of the struggles it has faced critically and in the marketplace. We experienced such good will from all corners in the making of it, and then at the various industry screenings we held before its release, the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. I can favorably compare it to the reception A Beautiful Mind received at its premiere, and frankly, it seemed like people were more passionate about Rent and its chances than they were about A Beautiful Mind's a few years ago. The things people said to me and all of us at screenings -- and from all walks of life, and from people who both knew the show and didn't know the show, and who had no reason to walk up to us and speak so passionately -- reminded me so strongly of the reception the 1994 workshop had received, and the 1996 Off-Broadway version got during previews -- that it seemed like the film was destined for a similar response upon its release.

Having said all of that, I totally accept that there are people who dislike this film. I'm just saying that the intensity of their dislike no one involved with the film saw coming. Let alone the glee and joy some folks here and elsewhere are deriving from its mixed reception.

I was hopeful for a Globe nomination because it would have at least encouraged perhaps a few more folks to see the film. Awards have a tendency to increase a film's audience, which is a nice fallout result. It seemed like the HFPA's reception to the film was positive, based on our press conferences we held with them. So I was surprised that we didn't get recognized. It's not, however, the end of the world or anything.

Some of you were disappointed in the film: I understand that. I'm disappointed in some of your lack of respect for those who loved the film. Characterizing them as deluded or worse. That's just rude.

[ShuQ]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 3:58pm

Well said Anthony...thanks for keeping in such great contact with us. Just know that we support you, the film, and the rest of the cast 100%!

And don't forget that there are still some of us that thought the film was very touching...there's no denying that the film still touched lives, and you can take pleasure in that. Updated On: 12/13/05 at 03:58 PM

[insomniak]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:00pm

Well said.

Part of me feels like a few critics disliked it and the rest followed suit, trying to be the coolest kid on the playground. No one wants to be the only fan.

I'm sorry this stings so badly for you guys.

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:02pm

The lack of respect goes both ways.

[shameless]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:04pm

Well, there's a prime example of why I think it's unnecessary to bash a Broadway performer, show or film on a message board.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:07pm

I find it hurtful (and a little bit mind-boggling) that people can't just accept that some people liked a movie they hated -- they have to go about saying that people "pretend" to like it, or "deluded themselves" into liking it. For all of the politeness and attempts to be considerate at first, the truth sure as hell comes out now. I'll never stop hating that notion.

And all of you who go on and on and on about how you wish the movie musicals well, so that we'll have more of them in the future, yet who are actually rejoicing over the lack of GG nominations for Rent should be ashamed of your hypocritical selves. You shouldn't be *happy* about this, or wanting to enjoy it -- complacency, perhaps, but this happiness is disgusting.

It makes me so sad that this didn't turn out the way you all wanted it to, Anthony. You deserved better. This really isn't how it should end.

Updated On: 12/13/05 at 04:07 PM

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:09pm

Thank you Anthony.

A few people here need to get over themselves. No one deserves "one day" to make fun of people that liked the movie. If you didn't like it, fine, you can post about that, but saying anyone else is delusional for liking "this garbage" is admitting that you have no respect for anyone's opinion but your own. If that's true, get a blog and post to your heart's content, but don't expect respect from the rest of the board if you're not willing to give it yourself.

[insomniak]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:10pm

re: "deluded fans"- Everyone I know who saw it liked it. And only three of them had seen or heard of the stage show.

Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 48. That's split right down the middle.

I'm sorry it all ended this way.

[LeaGirl]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:10pm

""they have to go about saying that people "pretend" to like it, or "deluded themselves" into liking it""

A-freaking-men.

I loved it. And I certainly wouldn't have "deluded" myself into loving it - I'm a grownup, I'm not 11 years old, I know what I like and what I don't like in movies.

HUGE Phantom fan. Hated the Phantom movie. Did I want to like it? Sure. But I didn't.

I'm not lying to myself about loving Rent, and I bet most of the people on this board who did (and there were many) aren't either. I respect that people don't like it, but I get sick of being told that somehow, I'm not classy enough because I do.

[Fantabulous428]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:11pm

Well said Anthony - and what you said definitely needed to be said.

[xoxRogue]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:11pm

Part of me feels like a few critics disliked it and the rest followed suit, trying to be the coolest kid on the playground. No one wants to be the only fan.

I know the feeling. (I don't know if that is true, but I know what that feels like.)

What ever happened to everyone's own opinions? I'm thinking not as many people read "Self-Reliance" anymore.

[ljay889]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:17pm

It wouldn't be so thrilling if the majority of Rentheads weren't so INCREDIBLY EASY TO ENRAGE.

Seriously. I'm a huge Rent fan but I have spent many amused hours watching the RAGE of certain people on this board who are sure that anyone who didn't like Rent just "didn't get it" or "hates it already".

I love it. I enjoyed the movie. But you'll have to admit... they're fun to poke at.
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- I COMPLETELY agree. I've been called a RENT "hater" before, because I didn't always agree with some of the freakish fans on here.

[Jyn326]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:17pm

I can imagine how dissapointing it is to work so hard about something you believe in so passionately, and then it not be recognized. I can't, however, imagine how some people would be so hateful in finding pleasure in other's dissapointments. Message boards are for sharing opinions and honest debates can, in fact, be fun. But to negatively characterize someone for liking (or disliking) a film simply because you do not agree is immature- to put it mildly.

I personally adored this movie. I am a 21 year old straight, Christian woman living in Kentucky. I am not a struggling artist and I am blessed to be living a healthy life. At face value I probably don't relate to the film. But I HAVE found lots to relate to and to take from this movie. I would gladly die for the chance to have a love like Angel and Collins. I am jealous of the friendship between these characters. Though Roger's personal baggage is different than mine, I relate to being scared of future relationships because of my past. Many times I feel like Mark, kind of looking from the outside as everyone else finds love and lives their lives.

My point is, you don't have to fit some type of mold to love this movie. It has found a broad audience of all races, sexualities, and people from urban, suburban, country areas, and people with varying levels of education. How can anyone put down someone else's opinions?

How can any human being rejoice in someone else's dissapointment?

To Anthony, I applaud you for coming here and not sitting on the sidelines when someone challenges you. You have always been very honest in your posts, and at the same time very respectful of others' opinions. I think we all should follow his example and do the same.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:19pm

It is also ridiculous that some people can't seem to understand why someone disliked a movie they loved.
All of the rest movie related threads have been vile on all sides, not just RENT related ones.

There is a difference between a BASH and an a negative view of something, some people here are bashing and being hurtful and spiteful, and others are letting a supreme love of soemthing overwhelm them, and it comes accross as gloating and obnoxious.

The Critics have particular criteria they look for in movies, and for many RENT did not meet them, I tend to be even harsher on films than most critics, that does not mean the critics make up my mind for me, simply we often see the same problems with films.
It can go both ways, the contention that the critical public was deluded is off.

Yet it is also off to negate the real and emotional appeal this particular film had for many in spite of its flaws. To say people are "deluded" is ridiculous.

The way the board was and still is filled with many posts and threads extoling the virtues of RENT in every way was bound to get a negative reaction though.
Also the attacks upon ANY negativity toward the RENT film have also been unwarranted, many people wanted to love it and did not, they have as much a place as anyone else to say so here.

[Michael Bennett]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:20pm

Anthony,

Isn't being blind sided the same as being delusional? I have no issue with you or with any fans of the film. I don't need to contact you privately to share my opinion that the people closest to the production of this film - from the cast to the die hard fans have had a difficult time separating the forest from the proverbial tree.

Perhaps if you had been less dismissive of the naysayers on this board and others who - starting over a year ago - expressed major reservations about the script, the casting, and the production, the overall critical and box office reaction to the finished project would have come as less of a surprise to you.

I'm sorry that RENT hasn't been more successful, but I'm more sorry that it was not a better made movie. It's huge financial loss jeopardizes the entire movie musical franchise.

I respect the work and effort, and in particular your invested interest in preserving Jonathan Larson's legacy. But I can't help but imagine a scenario ten years from now, when you are really able to look at the film objectively to take it's faults at face value and not personally.

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:21pm

Who challenged him? Who? It must be really sad to work on a project and put love and passion and fire into it and have it flop. The movie has flopped. Nothing anyone can do about it. I wanted to love it. I hated it at the screenings and still put my $11.00 on it to support it on opening day. I am however going to continue to express myself. It is good to talk about the misses as well as the hits.

[DAME]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:23pm

MB;
Again i wish I had the ability to express myself like you do. Well said.

[ljay889]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 4:24pm

If the bombing of RENT hurts the chances of the SWEENEY TODD, an overdue movie version of a TRUE MASTERPIECE. I'll be so pissed.