RUBEN & CLAY’S FIRST ANNUAL CHRISTMAS CAROL FAMILY FUN PAGEANT SPECTACULAR REUNION SHOW- PREVIEW THREAD — Page 6

As mentioned earlier, Whoopi and the ladies of 'The View' saw this opening night and raved about it the next day. Makes me wonder if ABC has money invested in this, or Whoopi and Meghan have their own money invested in this?

One thing which caught my attention was the number of times they mentioned 'affordable prices' for tickets. They kept mentioning to 'take the family it's affordable', 'tickets are affordable', 'affordable tickets' - WTH?

And free (or nearly so) is pretty darned affordable.

dramamama611 said: "Usually, any donations are made AFTER costs are made. It's unlikely that everyone (or even anyone)is doing it for free. (But there's still rent, costumes, rights etc to be paid.)"



Wait a second, can we go back to this?

I would have thought that the donations were built into the weekly running cost, but you're saying that's not the case? So if they don't meet their weekly nut, then no money is donated? And in this case, since the show is bombing financially, that is the same as saying that this show will not be donating a cent to charity. Correct?

Kad said: "The performers and musicians involved need to be paid. The landlord needs to be paid. This isn't an instance of everyone donating their time and resources for a charitable cause.

The production states that a"portionof the proceeds" will be going to the National Inclusion Project, not that they are just donating a sum of money. Money needs to be coming in for that portion to be taken out."



Sure, that makes sense. I just figured that they would take the charity portion out of the gross, then use the rest of the gross to pay for the running costs, then whatever the rest of the gross doesn't cover will be paid for by the investors - or where ever the money usually comes from when a show doesn't meet its weekly running cost.

As you can probably tell, I don't have experience with the financial logistics of charity-contribution performances like this. Based on your and Dramamamma's comments, it sounds like what they're doing is pretty standard practice. So that's that. I guess it's just sort of sad that a show can market itself as donating to charity, when in reality it never actually does (whether through fault of their own, or not).

From Vocab.com: Proceeds are the money brought in from a transaction or event. ... Proceeds can mean either the gross money earned (all that was brought in) or the net (the money left after expenses). If you are very concerned about where the money you donate to charity goes, this is a good question to ask.

MassiveMeGo said: "I see you all working hard to diminish the show's success. Try not to hurt yourselves."

The show made $20K per show last week, there is no success to diminish. Your mission is WAY harder.

That's enough. It's an OBJECTIVE measurement of success. FRIENDS liking your show means nothing, btw. Critics are SUBJECTIVE. Finances are specific, finite and proof.

Wow. Another deleted comment addressing MassiveMeGo's repeated refutation of literal facts in this thread. The mods are really doing a bang-up job of exercising judgment in which posts and posters to scrutinize on this board.



-Sincerely,

A long-time poster who thinks "Trumpian self-delusion" is actually an accurate description and not an attack.

"Surprisingly delightful" "Audience completely won over"

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MassiveMeGo said: "Just this."nothing you or we say on this thread will impact the show’s success or failure." Try to remember that."

I will if you will. And one has to wonder if you know your misconstruing of facts isn’t helping the show succeed, why are you doing it? Is it just for attention? If so, that’s sad.