Riedel: Refunds Rampant after GREASE Finale- Page 2

[Princeton78]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 2:13pm

Oh Michael...poor Michael.
Max just wasn't his type. He wanted to see more of Austin's abs.

[toomeytwopiece]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 2:18pm

His words about the winners being "nobodies" makes me angry - I think it's EXCELLENT that the production isn't relying on names to get people in the seats.

However, as usual, he's right about a lot of things, whether it's nasty or harsh, it's true.

[Jimmcf]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 2:25pm

Well next to hunky Chad and Jason (from 'Altar Boyz') Max is kinda nebbish (still). And I didn't get Austin's appel. I was only half watching the show, and after Chad was booted, I stopped even that.

[Michael Bennett]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 3:02pm

Max and Laura have one year contracts.

[Laurhearts SA]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 3:26pm

I wish they didnt do this on a reality TV show. that is kind of tacky especially how they were singing all of the "movie" versions of songs and stuff like that. I said on another thread somewhere that my friend's mom was trying to convince me that Max is ugly and Austin is a better actor and very good looking....yeah ok well, that was her opinion and I said I liked Laura and Max. Well, Max looks more like a normal greeser than a Danny to me but I liked him better than Austin. Austin skeeves me for some reason and I dont know why. So, when Max and Laura won I asked her if she will see the broadway show and she said no. I asked her if she would have seen it if Ashley and Austin won and she shruged her shoulders and said probobly not. This is the reason why this shouldnt have been a show. It's people like that who vote. They vote and then abandon the show. I know that some people (us) would make good decisions about this stuff but what does the rest of america know about it. I think they should have done it the old fashion way. It's sacred.(kidding but not really). Ii also dont think they should have put on Greese. Didn't it already have a revival? They should have brought back something like West Side Story or something. Well, I suppose It's the investor's decision. I will probobly see it anyway.
Updated On: 4/21/07 at 03:26 PM

[JRybka]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 3:53pm

okay first off. Why is Reidel commenting on looks when he is not that attractive himself. I mean really come on!

And even though I dont really like MAX I still don't wish him any ill. You know what would be REALLY SHOCKING? If someone could write a column about gossip that is not MEAN and VICIOUS! That is why I loved Seth's new one on PLAYBILL as he was not bad mouthing anyone.

WHEN DID WE BECOME SUCH VICIOUS QUEENS? (oh wait.... look who I am speaking too)

[Mistress_Spouzic]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 3:55pm

people were going to want refunds no matter who won, why is this news worthy?

[HoshiForever]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 3:58pm

seriously, Mistress, that's what I was thinking. If Max and Ashley and won, people would've wanted refunds. If Austin and Ashely had won, people would've wanted refunds. ...If Austin and Laura had won..people would've wanted refunds....move on already.

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 4:06pm

wouldn't it be funny if they sent out Austin and Ashely in the national tour... or are they waiting for the show to close on Broadway and then sending that cast out on the road? I've been thinking about that. It made more sense to me form the beginning for it to have been a national tour rather then a Broadway revival.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 4:07pm

Well stupid people who purchase tickets to live events where either the operator (if you call) or a screen (if you order line) inform you that there are no refunds or exchanges deserve to sit through a bad musical just to learn a lesson about being so stupid to order tickets and expect a refund. Dumb-asses.

[worrell4077]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 4:27pm

"Crumm (that name again!) and Osnes are notable only because they were the least attractive of the lot."

Umm yeah Laura was probably the most attractive girl there. She wasn't ugly, she was very beautiful.

"okay first off. Why is Reidel commenting on looks when he is not that attractive himself. I mean really come on!"

I totally agree. He's not the most attractive guy in the world and he would be lucky to get someone as attractive as Laura.

I'm not saying anything until after I see the show. Max and Laura both have great voices and were both very expressive with their songs and brought a lot of character into them.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 4:33pm

Jacobs, insiders say, came off as a pompous oaf.

"He wrote one show ['Grease'] and carried on like he was Jule Styne," says one producer.

I thought the same thing, which is why I stopped watching. Regardless of the concensus of the other judges, he thought HIS opinion should count for more, because he knew the REAL Sandy. So crappy performers got through to later rounds just because it remotely reminded him of his high school crush. Not that creators shouldn't have a say in the casting, but when you've written one (mediocre-obnoxious) show in 30 years, you should defer to the experienced producer and director, not the other way around.

[Calvin]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 4:55pm

And what's with the picking on the guy's name? If a Norbert Leo Butz can have a career, I think we can live with a Crumm. Or Gumm. And WHY am I defending these people?

[Sumofallthings]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 4:58pm

There is a great story (in response to what Michael Bennet was saying) about the magical 180 of Reidel in Jeffry Denman's "A Year With The Producers" in which Reidel says of The Producers, "it's got all the makings of a floperoo" and then flash forward to the opening night (I believe) party and there is Reidel singing the praises of Mel Brooks.

He's a fickle man. He's in the theatre industry...they all are.

[xM3L24x]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 5:01pm

I agree with the fact that it was a terrible TV show, but the people who were demanding refunds are really ridiculous. Get over it. You shouldn't have bought them early if you were gonna have a hissy fit later that the people you wanted to win didn't.

[Fosse76]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 5:11pm

Austin was bad enough in Hairspray...he most certainly doesn't belong in Grease. I watched three shows and that was enough. Kathleen Marshall seemed pretty embarassed to be on the show, so I'm wondering who's idea it was.

[fossemoves]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 5:18pm

Interesting point Fosse, I thought I was the only one who noticed that Kathleen Marshal had the "I can't believe I let them tlak me into this!" look on her face alot of the time.

[LoringsGuy]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 5:27pm

Chanhassen Dinner Theatre in Minnesota (the place where Laura played 'Sandy' before dropping out to do this show) is doing a four-week run of GREASE this summer. Allegedly, they offered the leads to Austin and Ashley and were turned down.

I'd be curious to know how many of those types of offers Austin and Ashley have received since the finale...

Updated On: 4/4/07 at 05:27 PM

[withoutlovewithoutU]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 5:42pm

Ugg, Riedel is so full of it. Half the article is unsupported, I mean I haven't even graduated from High school yet and I know that when you write an article you're suppose to at least TRY to hide the fact that you're full of crap.
Even if he is right, reading the article just made me mad.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 5:54pm

I very much agree with what he says abot Jacobs, he did come off as a pompous idiot in the one episode I saw (the very first), and I don't know how he got away with calling people fat so deliberately and deaminingly, someone clearly needs to get him a mirror.
I think the only of the "judges" that seemed to be serious at all was Ms.Marshall. I do criticize the fact she took part of this debacle at all and I actually find her choreography to be rather pedestrian, but she didn't act arrogant or idiotic like the two men.
And by the way, Riedel was very much right when he referred to the group as 100 cookie-cut kids.

[Phantom2]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 7:05pm

"Austin was bad enough in Hairspray...he most certainly doesn't belong in Grease."

Fosse76- Austin was certainly NOT bad in Hairspray. If he was, they wouldn't have put him in the Las Vegas production. Duh.

Finally, a Riedel article I liked!!

[ABSteel]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 7:11pm

"Jacobs, insiders say, came off as a pompous oaf.

'He wrote one show ['Grease'] and carried on like he was Jule Styne,' says one producer."

I couldn't agree more.

[LuPonatic]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 7:58pm

so, what exactly makes any choreography pedestrian? What does that even mean, I wonder?

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 8:00pm

If it's not special or particularly outstanding, it's pedestrian.

Kathleen Marshall is one of the best choreographers of he day....more is expeceted from her.

[Mr. Tuttle]

Posted: 4/4/07 at 8:16pm

Ironic that a man with the name RIEDEL would bash Grease.

Think about it. It's a thinking joke.