SLAVE PLAY 2021 Previews- Page 2

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 11/22/21 at 10:54pm

troynow said: "YOU ARE RIGHT!

This show can open and not sell one single ticket and complete their run. They received the full weight of the SCOG money.



Is really a shame... There are meaningful shows like Dana H/ Is this a room, Thoughts of a Colored Man, and Trouble in Mind opening up without any government support just the will of the people.



Then we have shows like this that take advantage of the system. Also for the record like Waitress did as well."

And Slave Play closed before the pandemic lockdown. Not sure how it even makes sense that they were funded. It is a shame the Vineyard shows are closing early. 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 11/22/21 at 11:16pm

hollebolle said: "https://data.sba.gov/dataset/svog"

Yes, it's listed as Antebellum Fever Dream LLC, $6,257,672."


Well there we have it! Thank you. Meanwhile, nonprofits go through giant hoops each year to get +/- $50K from the NEA and NEH and other grant organizations.

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 12:07am

KJisgroovy said: "I didn't love this but if you're takeaway was"slavery sucks" I feel like you didn't really engage with what the play (or the Parks play) was about.

I don't think either play was particularly nuanced, but I think both are very clearly about contemporary issues and how the legacy of slavery can complicate interracial relationships today (among other things). If "slavery is bad" is what you got I feel like that's on you."

Yeah that’s totally on me. He asks his white friend to own him and then it destroys their relationship. Shocking. 

[KJisgroovy]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 12:18am

Yup. I'm glad we agree! 

Updated On: 11/23/21 at 12:18 AM

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 12:38am

Why this board can’t accept differing opinions is beyond me… now back to the Previews! 

[orlikethecolorpurple]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 1:08am

SouthernCakes said: "Yeah that’s totally on me. He asks his white friend to own him and then it destroys their relationship. Shocking."

 

I’ve avoided all plot points this entire time and am seeing it next week. Thanks for the spoiler in your effort to be condescending!

 

[KJisgroovy]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 1:12am

It's not a difference of opinion, you misunderstood (either accidentally or on purpose) both plays. If you didn't like the play or the production, s'fine. I didn't care for either as much as I'd hoped (and really didn't care for White Noise much at all). Neither play was about how bad slavery is, not even superficially. 

 

 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 4:17am

Different play so you’re fine, orlikethecolorpurple. But yeah differing opinions are differing opinions. Saying I didn’t “understand” something is very condescending. What I saw and took from it is what I saw and took from It. Happy you enjoyed it. To me - “White Noise” (and I’m actually a big fan of her work) - just didn’t work for me. Interesting idea. Not follow through. Much like “Slave Play.” Back to previews. 

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 10:12am

So the show closed as scheduled in January 2020, was it planning a return already? How the hell did it get SVOG money? 

[52889j]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 10:57am

everythingtaboo said: "So the show closed as scheduled in January 2020, was it planning a return already? How the hell did it get SVOG money?"

Reportedly, yes. Waitress however...

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 1:26pm

It's not a difference of opinion, you misunderstood (either accidentally or on purpose) both plays. If you didn't like the play or the production, s'fine. I didn't care for either as much as I'd hoped (and really didn't care for White Noise much at all). Neither play was about how bad slavery is, not even superficially. 

Correct. 
 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 2:16pm

I disagree. It’s an opinion. Move on. Lordy… I hate when people say “you didn’t get it.” I got it, I just didn’t like it nor do I think it was well done. I’m a huge Parks fan and this was just not one of her best works. Nor do I think the text to slave play is all that great… just an OPINION. No biggie. Keep it moving. Xox 

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 2:53pm

SouthernCakes said: "I disagree. It’s an opinion. Move on. Lordy… I hate when people say “you didn’t get it.” I got it, I just didn’t like it nor do I think it was well done. I’m a huge Parks fan and this was just not one of her best works. Nor do I think the text to slave play is all that great… just an OPINION. No biggie. Keep it moving. Xox"

If you think the only message to Slave Play was "slavery was bad" then you not only didn't get it, you're grossly insensitive to the racial tensions of the United States.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 3:16pm

A few observations:

1. An opinion is a conclusion. We are all entitled to ours, whether we choose to adorn them or not. 

2. There is not, generally speaking, a universal reason for liking or not liking something. 

3. Particularly on a message board, and particularly in 2021, it can be useful to examine the reason a person likes or dislikes something. Otherwise, the opinion can be of no value. E.g., if you tell me you hate a particular musical, but you do not tell me that you hate all musicals, you have failed to inform my understanding of your reason. Likewise, any prejudice, bias, lack of awareness, etc., for or against [or of] the subject of an opinion, is important if the intention is (as one would hope) to engage in a intellectually meaningful discussion. 

4. When one person suggests that the other person's opinion reflects a failure to understand (or get) something, the insistence of the former that they DO understand, without embellishment, is not a meaningful engagement. 

5. There are no "biggies" here. Yet most of us come here to understand things better than we did on our own. When someone states that what they are saying is "just an opinion," they are diminishing the potential value of a discussion. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 3:45pm

poisonivy2 said: "SouthernCakes said: "I disagree. It’s an opinion. Move on. Lordy… I hate when people say “you didn’t get it.” I got it, I just didn’t like it nor do I think it was well done. I’m a huge Parks fan and this was just not one of her best works. Nor do I think the text to slave play is all that great… just an OPINION. No biggie. Keep it moving. Xox"

If you think the only message to Slave Play was "slavery was bad" then you not only didn't get it, you're grossly insensitive to the racial tensions of the United States."

It's pretty clearly a major part of the subtext, thus the title. Also, to assume because someone didn't react to the content of this play they are "grossly insensitive" to racial tensions in the U.S. is a bit much. We'd have to  know how Southern Cakes responds to actual instances of racial tension in the U.S. to know that (not that it is necessarily any of our business).

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 7:13pm

Introducing the Wilson Lounge, "a reimagining of the lobby of the August Wilson Theatre as a space for the conversations that the play stimulates, and in which audiences can be in conversation with the work and each other." The space is curated by set designer Clint Ramos and active throughout Slave Play's Broadway run. 

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Photos-SLAVE-PLAY-Unveils-The-Wilson-Lounge-for-First-Preview-20211123

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 7:24pm

That's gorgeous, especially since the Wilson is one of Broadway's uglier theaters.

It might encourage concession sales too, which is kind of the opposite of what Broadway was trying to do at the start of reopening. Are any Broadway theaters not selling concessions now?

[Alexander Lamar]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 7:44pm

Jordan Levinson said: "Introducing the Wilson Lounge, "a reimagining of the lobby of the August Wilson Theatreas a space for the conversations that the play stimulates, and in which audiences can be in conversation with the work and each other." The space is curated by set designer Clint Ramos and active throughoutSlave Play's Broadway run.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Photos-SLAVE-PLAY-Unveils-The-Wilson-Lounge-for-First-Preview-20211123"

This seems/sounds great. I wish I could check it out without buying a ticket to this. 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 7:54pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Are any Broadway theatersnotselling concessions now?"

I know the Sondheim and the Beaumont are not.

 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 8:45pm

Huh? How does that me insensitive to racial tension? Seems a stretch just because I didn’t enjoy one or two plays about the subject matter. But I’m not bothered by others opinions of me. 
 

Anyway, aw, I love the Wilson! I think it’s such a gorgeous unique space! Love seeing shows there. 

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 11/23/21 at 11:16pm

Was anyone at first preview tonight?

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 11/24/21 at 10:10am

Is that lobby set up just for the run of Slave Play or permanent? It didn’t seem clear. 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 11/24/21 at 11:49am

Bettyboy72 said: "Is that lobby set up just for the run of Slave Play or permanent? It didn’t seem clear."

Just for the run of SP. though we know jujamcyn likes having special “experiences” for audiences so maybe they’ll do something with that space for Funny Girl too.

[phan24]

Posted: 11/24/21 at 12:28pm

First preview was good, the new actors totally bring their own nuance and choices to the roles and I didn’t feel like I missed anything having seen it with the OBC.

I do have one big complaint, it was SO HARD to hear the actors, I wanted to go get a hearing aid because I probably heard 70% of the script. Thankfully knowing the show prior made it manageable. I sat in the mezzanine for what it’s worth.

I hope someone from the production sees this and tries to amplify the sound somehow.

The show ran for 2 hours and 5 minutes with no intermission.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 11/24/21 at 12:53pm

Two hours and five with no intermission? That is pushing it. May I ask how well attended it was?