Sinatra musical in development from DiPietro and Marshall- Page 2

[ggersten]

Posted: 10/16/23 at 9:19pm

Stage Door Sally said: "Haven't found many reviews. Has anyone seen it?"

UK Theatreboard discussion

[brendag2]

Posted: 10/17/23 at 10:01am

Thanks for your opinion!

[bwaydreamer]

Posted: 10/17/23 at 10:28am

Completely baffled by people's love of Matt Doyle.  I find him bland and vanilla and this project only highlights it more.  He sounds nothing like Sinatra and the clips of him singing make me cringe. 

[Stage Door Sally]

Posted: 10/18/23 at 2:56pm

Thanks for the link GG. 

Considering the Sinatra family is entrenched in this, I'm not surprised the story is skewed, and ultimately doesn't work. Which is too bad. It's Matt's first big starring role and I was rooting for him to succeed. Granted, from the sample reviews I've now read, he has the vocal chops, the crowd likes him, and the supporting cast shines. But performances alone can't make the book a good one.

I think Matt has a terrific voice and would love to see this show heavily doctored. But, I suspect Tina Sinatra will insist on doing it her way.  

  

 

[KevinKlawitter]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 9:24am

Tina Sinatra: Show is aiming for Broadway opening "certainly no later than Fall of '25 and could be sooner"

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 10:06am

This is such a funny string of phrases to me.

"There're a lot of plays ahead of us. You get on a long line once they start opening, which they are now, this season is coming up... we'll see what succeeds and what doesn't. Wishing everybody well, but the fewer successes, the more you move up. We are talking to one of the most renowned theaters on Broadway."

[BdwyFan]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 2:37pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "This is such a funny string of phrases to me.

"There're a lot of plays ahead of us. You get on a long line once they start opening, which they are now, this season is coming up... we'll see what succeeds and what doesn't. Wishing everybody well, but the fewer successes, the more you move up. We are talking to one of the most renowned theaters on Broadway.""

Wasn’t this already done as “Come Fly Away” years ago?  It flopped.  Why would this be different and what new audiences would this try to attract ? 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 2:48pm

COME FLY AWAY was a Twyla Tharp dance show using songs recorded by Frank Sinatra.

This is a Sinatra bio-musical.

The issue with any Sinatra project is his estate (controlled by Tina Sinatra) is overprotective of the more unsavory elements, namely the connections to organized crime. That was rumored to be the reason why Scorsese & DiCaprio had abandoned their long-gestating Sinatra biopic. But now that's allegedly being resurrected and will probably be able to go deeper than this jukebox musical. So for sake of comparison, it would be wise to get this stage musical up before the biopic -- if the biopic ever actually happens.

[Dolly80]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 3:00pm

It was terrible in the UK. Sorry Broadway.

[GottaGetAGimmick420]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 6:53pm

"We are talking to one of the most renowned theaters on Broadway, and he's got to go to Broadway. West End is too busy, and we'll get there someday. They just have no real estate really."

 

What does this even mean? You aren't guaranteed a theater, just in line. Just like every other producer in town...

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 9:52pm

GottaGetAGimmick420 said: ""We are talking to one of the most renowned theaters on Broadway, and he's got to go to Broadway. West End is too busy, and we'll get there someday. They just have no real estate really."

What does this even mean? You aren't guaranteed a theater, just in line. Just like every other producer in town..."


It means "we've met with the theater owners, they've watched our archival video from England, one claims to want to give us a house when they're ready, and now we wait."

So basically it doesn't mean anything. Tina Sinatra is trying to create news out of nothing.

The good news is that narrows it down to about 40 theaters (can you really call the Marquis 'renowned'? 🤪)

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 5/18/24 at 11:06pm

 

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 5/19/24 at 12:05am

Let's be honest everyone. Would you go to musical about Sinatra that the main storyline is he was a scumbag? How about MJ The Musical? Would it still be running if quite a bit of the story was about his child abuse allegations? Of course, these shows are going to be sanitized heavily. They want to sell his personal fame and music. Yes, I think there should be balance in these type of musicals (nobody is a saint) but we should not expect much different than you will get when family member has the rights to how the music is used. Personally, I agree with others that have mentioned this type of musical should concentrate on a certain time period in his life and not his entire career.

As for playing Sinatra it is hard choice for an actor. Do you try to mimic his voice and mannerisms so much that it seems you are doing impersonation instead of acting? He is such an iconic figure so it is not easy choice to make IMO. Will this be a good musical, I doubt it but I guess we shall see.

[Impeach2017]

Posted: 5/19/24 at 11:25am

Seems like everybody and their dog is hoping for a 2025 "opening".  It's too bad they couldn't bet somebody like Michael Bublé or Harry Connick, jr who have been copying Sinatra anyway for years.

[The Other One]

Posted: 5/19/24 at 12:24pm

Impeach2017 said: "Seems likeeverybody and their dog is hoping for a 2025 "opening". It's too bad they couldn't bet somebody like Michael Bubléor Harry Connick, jr who have been copying Sinatra anyway for years."

I give Tina Sinatra credit for not doing that.

 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 5/19/24 at 12:27pm

Impeach2017 said: "Seems likeeverybody and their dog is hoping for a 2025 "opening". It's too bad they couldn't bet somebody like Michael Bubléor Harry Connick, jr who have been copying Sinatra anyway for years."

I'm sure those guys wouldn't touch this project with a 10 foot pole.

You know who would have been a great Frank Sinatra? Nick Cordero.

[quizking101]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 7:13am

According to a recent Facebook comment, it appears Matt Doyle has left SINATRA due to ongoing delays.

[Kad]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 7:32am

Kind of the opposite of what he said in an interview only in March: 

“At the end of the day, it is a huge relief to have this life-changing show in my back pocket and I know it will happen at the right time, just like Company did after the pandemic postponed our opening.”

[quizking101]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 8:31am

I’ve heard from some friends who have recently auditioned that it was projected for the Fall, but the theatres are all currently occupied or have a tenant lined up.

Its possible that Doyle got a much better deal with Gatsby in Korea, which might be a gateway to him taking over on Broadway (since that doesn’t seem to waning any time soon)

[GottaGetAGimmick420]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 8:31am

quizking101 said: "According to a recent Facebook comment, it appears Matt Doyle has left SINATRA due to ongoing delays.

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This makes him leaving for TGG in Korea makes more sense

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 8:40am

JUST IN TIME can’t be helping this show’s trajectory. Sinatra is more famous, but JUST IN TIME is more inventive, and it’s probably unwise to have two crooner musicals within a few years of each other (and definitely not concurrently).

People “leave shows” all the time and sometimes they come back if the timing works out.

[inception]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 9:49am

Yeah well people still need a pay cheque

Kad said: "Kind of the opposite of what he said in an interview only in March:

“At the end of the day, it is a huge relief to have this life-changing show in my back pocket and I know it will happen at the right time, just likeCompanydid after the pandemic postponed our opening.”"

 

[darquegk]

Posted: 6/6/25 at 2:26pm

It also doesn't hurt that this is a project Matt Doyle can safely age INTO, not out of. People are far less invested in "young, handsome crooner Sinatra" than "middle-aged, neurotic volatile swinger at the top of his game Sinatra." When he lost his hair and added the fedora, THAT'S when he became larger than life. 

[Blow Gabriel]

Posted: 7/17/25 at 4:04am

I think his daughter or someone said a year ago Fall 2025 the latest.  Not sure if that’s still the plan, but why would Matt Doyle leave the project just because it’s not happening soon enough?  Isn’t it a good gig to have in your back pocket?  Unless the producers wouldn’t allow him to take other jobs because they want him to be free? 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 7/17/25 at 8:45am

I’d venture the producers of this are holding out until Just in Time closes. The two shows would just cannibalize each other if they were running concurrently.