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Sondheim and Ives' HERE WE ARE at The Shed
lapinitsa
Understudy Joined: 12/29/13
#600Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/18/23 at 11:26pm
RippedMan said: "But I do wonder how the Shed of all places got this and not the Public or Playwrights where he has a history."
I've wondered about that too. The Public hosted the reading/lab, didn't they?
forgetregret
Stand-by Joined: 9/6/05
#601Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 9:47am
Posted a pair of tickets for 9/29 (second preview) on the Buy & Sell board. $348 including fees.
Kimbo
Featured Actor Joined: 4/8/08
#602Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 11:18am
BorisTomashevsky said: "steve.sometime said: "Are we going to get no visual design for Sondheim's last musical??? It's less than 40 days away, there's not even a teaser logo. What is going on???"
I’d guess that if there isn’t even a second act, they’ll be more worried about that.
This is starting to feel like a dastardly ego-fueled endeavor. Would Sondheim have wanted anyone to see this? If he indeed never wanted it performed, should we let our curiosity get the best of us and go watch it anyway?"
Oh ffs is right.
This writer in the Post who confidently states that Sondheim abandoned the piece 7 months before he passed away also manages to cite one source who says he “became reinvested later”. Well, yeah.
Sondheim appeared on Stephen Colbert’s show only TWO months before he died and spoke about the show with great excitement, saying they’d just had a reading a few weeks earlier and he expected it to be produced the following season.
https://youtu.be/GKSYeMgamIA
“Dastardly endeavor”? That he never wanted to see performed, and which they should feel ashamed for producing and we should feel guilty about attending?
I don’t think so.
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#603Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 11:35am
Are we seriously linking to this idiot in the NY Post? LOL Have you ever watched any interviews with this guy? He's nothing but a bitchy theatre queen who hates everything and has nothing nice to say about any show.
100. He's a loser and anyone stupid enough to believe a thing he says is as well.
New posters of less than a year: We don't like rubes on TicTok or the NY Post, which is a hateful GOP rag. Don't post them here. Thanks so much.
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BorisTomashevsky
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
#604Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 12:31pm
So they’re hateful, and you’re hating them back and calling for censorship on a discussion forum? You’re turning into the thing you don’t like.
And yes, if the piece wasn’t finished why would Sondheim want the public to see it? Having renewed interest in one’s own project and being enthusiastic on Colbert doesn’t mean you’re done working on it. But the man is dead, clearly with the show still incomplete, and you seem to think the lobby doors should be thrown wide open??
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#605Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 12:46pm
Feel free not to see it. Nobody cares and will make zero impact, I guarantee it.
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Huss417
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#606Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 12:49pm
Sutton Ross said: "Are we seriously linking to this idiot in the NY Post? LOL Have you ever watched any interviews with this guy? He's nothing but a bitchy theatre queen who hates everything and has nothing nice to say about any show.
100. He's a loser and anyone stupid enough to believe a thing he says is as well.
New posters of less than a year: We don't like rubes on TicTok or the NY Post, which is a hateful GOP rag. Don't post them here. Thanks so much.
"
Stop telling people what to do.
"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter."
Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
Huss417
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#607Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 12:50pm
Sutton Ross said: "Feel free not to see it. Nobody cares and will make zero impact, I guarantee it.
"
Sort of like most of your posts.
"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter."
Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
aislestorm2
Swing Joined: 7/2/08
#608Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 1:12pm
My guess is because Tom Kirdahy is producing it.
#609Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/19/23 at 8:12pm
TotallyEffed said: "Robbie2 said: "Reddit that's still a thing? lol"
Reddit is huge."
Ok, that's interesting. Well, not with our friends as I asked everyone last weekend out on Fire Island and they all pretty much said the same thing. Anyway, our demographic late 40's-60's don't go on it now but yea many years ago when it 1st came out.
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
Cory Schimmoelelr
Swing Joined: 6/20/17
#610Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/20/23 at 12:48pm
Someone showed me 
this interview where sondheim says that there is atleast one song in act 2
MrBroucek
Swing Joined: 8/20/23
#611Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/20/23 at 3:28pm
Interesting piece of information but do you know the date of it?
SJS said in september 2021 (on Colbert ) that they are working on Square One and they have just had a successful reading. He died December 21.
We know he was slow writer and we know the first act was completed, pre covid. I am hoping during covid they wrote a lot more of it and between the reading and his death he finished it - fingers crossed!
Didn't Sweeney go into rehearsal all written? I'm hoping this is another Sweeney fingers 🤞
#612Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/20/23 at 5:17pm
aislestorm2 said: "My guess is because Tom Kirdahy is producing it."
and his relationship with the Shed's Max Hodges and Alex Poots
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#613Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/20/23 at 5:22pm
RippedMan said: "But I do wonder how the Shed of all places got this and not the Public or Playwrights where he has a history."
Probably because The Shed is the newest and shiniest of the bunch. The Public is still fairly cool (and has a LOT of money), and Playwrights Horizons is where your grandparents go.
#614Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/20/23 at 6:02pm
jkcohen626 said: "TaffyDavenport said: "I don't see any suggestion that this is going to look like a concert/reading/sitzprobe."
Agreed. Just based on the subject matter and the space, I definitely wouldn't expect it to be a mega musical. I think it'll be pretty small. But there is a full design team and a choreographer on the website. So, it definitely won't be a sitzprobe. It could be something more encores style. But, I think it'll be fully staged."
Everyone calm down as the anticipation and anxiety over this is crazy. It will be interesting to see what they do with the limited stage space. 1st previews Sept 28 will be here before you know it. 
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
Updated On: 8/20/23 at 06:02 PM
lapinitsa
Understudy Joined: 12/29/13
#615Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/21/23 at 12:34am
MrBroucek said: "Interesting piece of information but do you know the date of it?
SJS said in september 2021 (on Colbert ) that they are working on Square One and they have just had a successful reading. He died December 21.
We know he was slow writer and we know the first act was completed, pre covid. I am hoping during covid they wrote a lot more of it and between the reading and his death he finished it - fingers crossed!
Didn't Sweeney go into rehearsal all written? I'm hoping this is another Sweeney fingers 🤞
Yes, Sweeney Todd's score was complete when it went into rehearsal.
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AnythingYouDo
Chorus Member Joined: 5/28/19
#616Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/21/23 at 12:41am
In J.T. Max's Finale, which is the source of the quotes above, Sondheim says during interviews in July and September 2017 that he's written seven songs for the show and had started the second act, which he expected would have "at least as many."
This was his statement about the progress of the show in September 2017: "There is a complete score and a complete act, but I want to add and tweak. Second act, there is a complete draft of the book, and I've just begun the score."
It is difficult to imagine Sondheim not having made any further progress between 2017 and 2021, even allowing for the fact that he stopped working on it for a time. Even if he didn't complete anything for the second act (beyond the sketch quoted above), he'd finished more than the rumored six songs, though I suppose it's possible he or the creative team decided to cut one of those songs.
We'll know soon enough.
Voter
Broadway Star Joined: 5/19/20
#617Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/21/23 at 9:03pm
Does The Shed offer any student discounts?
or do they offer discounts for people under 30!
KevinKlawitter
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/21/20
#618Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 9:07am
Frank Rich-penned oral history of the show's development: The Final Sondheim
Updated On: 8/28/23 at 09:07 AM
#619Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 10:22am
KevinKlawitter said: "Frank Rich-penned oral history of the show's development: The Final Sondheim"
Excellent read that answers so many of the questions posed in this thread. Well worth the time.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#620Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 11:56am
Lol...came to post the same thing. What a terrific read. I may have shed a few tears reading it.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#621Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 12:01pm
It’s a wonderful glimpse at Sondheim as a person and collaborator; it makes me wish I had known him.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#622Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 12:08pm
That was incredible. And very interesting that it is setting up the record to be clear - the show as we are seeing IS 'finished'. It may not have been the intended final show, but it's simply not the case that the show was half finished and we are seeing the result of that. The decision to have minimal music in Act Two was a creative one that appeared to solve both the dramatic effect needed for characters who can't escape AND Sondheim's apparent inability to solve with music/his procrastination. Also, very interesting that the Nathan/Bernadette reading, which was described as 'extraordinary', apparently was just spoken words only!
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#623Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 12:38pm
Fascinating article! I am also relieved by the fact that it was the artistic choice to have the music end in act 2 while Sondheim was still alive.
I can’t wait to be there at the first preview.
#624Sondheim's Final Musical HERE WE ARE will premiere at The Shed this fall (No, really!)
Posted: 8/28/23 at 1:03pm
Also, we finally have confirmation why there was confusion over what show was workshopped in 2021, as Sondheim DID return to working on “All Together Now.”
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